hey gawker dudes. what the fuck is wrong with you?

i'm willing to believe Cook acted on his personal distaste for the site and that made sense

however, the comments I've seen from people highly-placed in the tech industry on tech journalism as a field are unequivocally disinterested in anything other than fluff pieces on their companies, their funding, and the work environment

it was only this past week that someone (I believe at google) was whining about a tech reporter asking if employees would be interested in anonymously speaking about the work culture of the company, saying that if they wanted to be a real journalist they'd be contacting corporate PR to connect them to the right people

of the exposees or even simple "inside baseball" style articles (see: a bunch of the stuff on our silicon valley thread), very few that target a company larger than a start-up that sells luggage (like The Verge did) exist. occasionally the nytimes or one of their peers runs an article, but they've got enough clout to do so without getting sued or cut out of coverage

there's also an ongoing gripe from tech people that covering larger companies (google, facebook, etc.) in terms of social environment or how people use their products isn't, again, "real journalism"

for all the flaws, there are too few descendants of Valleywag and the like

otm

I guess The Verge, among others, did dig pretty deeply into the Foxconn/Wisconsin deal but I feel like Foxconn is a different sort of target in that they don't deal directly with consumers and are located in China

There’s always the register

sort of bizarre to see people on this board still caring about this

well, one of the two people pitching the show was ilx's own

max is a good dude and also double-plus obese

Uh?

check your privilege, Ned

sort of bizarre to see people on this board still caring about this

tim cook is GAY?

succession already did the perfect gawker story

gay cook is Tim?

we all must cook on thermal interface material

yknow, I woulda thought that there would have been a comprehensive book about Gawker by now… I have to think that more than one neo-Robert Draper would have pitched it, but I wonder if publishers don't want Charles Harder fucking with them, or if Peter Thiel has similarly made it known that life would difficult should such a project proceed… if Cook is still sore, than perhaps a bunch of big shots are too and it would be too hot for publishers to handle… but it's one helluva story re: an era defining enterprise…

Well there’s a Netflix feature documentary

attempting to pitch it as a TV drama first was the right move imo -- a book just falls back into the same pool of readers who already half-know the story (or think they do) and have (too) many of them of them come to terms with how things turned out

i mean lol me for even saying or thinking this but the dramatic arc is literally old-school tragic in form

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it will be like mad men, but jon hamm->james corden and scotch->monster energy drink.

sort of bizarre to see people on this board still caring about this

new borad description

alternately, just paste it into a position:fixed div and let it hover in every thread on every topic for all times

if they do end up getting picked up by a different network, this will probably end up being a good thing for the show. i had appletv free for a month and there was nothing i would conceive of watching a minute of on it

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Ted lasso is v good but will not alleviate concerns abt the critical capacities of Apple tv

toxic gossip, class warfare, clickbait and gross public shaming of people

it truly was a great website

rip

uhhh

https://jezebel.com/who-forgot-to-invite-chun-li-to-the-mortal-kombat-1846300631

this looked like an obvious joke post that an editor later shat on

it was published at 4:20pm

Journalism

Big Defector update via Margaret Sullivan in the Washington Post. In sum, it's doing quite well for now:

And vital encouragement came when the group first announced its intentions to start a new site: More than 10,000 people immediately signed up as subscribers (the entry level is $8 a month; it costs a bit more for those who want to comment on stories). Tens of thousands of others would follow — enough to pay for the $50,000 minimum salaries of more than 20 staffers. Higher “target salaries” depend on the success of the site and on particular job responsibilities.

Subscriptions provide the only form of revenue. The site has no ads, and hasn’t resorted to any membership campaigns in the tradition of public television.

Each of the founding employees holds a financial stake in the company of about 5 percent; new staffers get a somewhat smaller share but all have an equal vote in major decisions. A two-thirds vote of the staff could result in editor Tom Ley’s firing.

“That’s terrifying and comforting at the same time,” Ley told me. “There is the possibility of me screwing stuff up, which is the scary part.” But, he says, if the staff does fire him, “at least it will be because of me,” not because of a corporate decision from on high.

I asked Ley whether he thought Defector would still be around in three years. He admitted that he’s hopeful but uncertain.

“There is going to be a white-knuckle moment of truth” at the one-year mark next summer, he said, when the initial one-year subscriptions expire.

Also recently hired Laura Wagner and Kalyn Kahler.

Each of the founding employees holds a financial stake in the company of about 5 percent; new staffers get a somewhat smaller share but all have an equal vote in major decisions. A two-thirds vote of the staff could result in editor Tom Ley’s firing.

“That’s terrifying and comforting at the same time,” Ley told me. “There is the possibility of me screwing stuff up, which is the scary part.” But, he says, if the staff does fire him, “at least it will be because of me,” not because of a corporate decision from on high.

this is the most FOUNDING FATHERS vibe i've felt in so long. fuck yeah for people who actually believe in democracy

The power of charging people to post cannot be denied. Maybe something for ILX to consider - a $1 toll to gain posting privileges on a thread.

Gawker's coming back https://t.co/Z2XQ21BmlA pic.twitter.com/fOJm9hqBVi

— Ben Smith (@benyt) April 11, 2021

Didn't they already try that?

prob unfair but a few years ago leah finnegan retweeted a transphobic piece by natasha vargas-cooper and i've always held that against her :)

feel like she did some other sketchy stuff that i can’t remember

Pour one out or something?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/06/will-gawkers-swashbuckling-style-survive-upcoming-relaunch

But Gawker could also punch down, something that happened more often in its later years, by which time the blog as an insurgent had itself become an established character. “Punching down was often never a good look for Gawker,” Kamer noted. It felt that way, Snyder recalls, “when there was blood on the floor of the Condé Nast tower,” referring to a controversial post about an executive’s private life—the removal of which caused the site’s then editor in chief Max Read to resign in protest, and other staffers, including Finnegan, to take buyouts. Days after the blowup, Denton announced his new vision for Gawker, reportedly telling those who remained that he wanted it to be “20% nicer.” (I asked to interview Read for this piece, but he told me he’s “suffering from a serious brain injury that has erased my memory of everything that happened between the years 2010 and 2016.”)

There are some very good quotes from former staffers in that piece. Whatever form Gawker takes when it "returns," people will complain about it. The problem with a site that talks a lot of shit is that it's great until they're talking shit about someone you like. Then you're obligated to bleat about how it's "punching down."

Often never a good look

this is exhausting

lmao at the Read quote, not gonna read the rest

e’s “suffering from a serious brain injury that has erased my memory of everything that happened between the years 2010 and 2016.”

man, i miss max

he's regularly in new york mag if you didn't know

Often never a good look

otm

ONAGL?

Eugene ONAGL

lollll

https://www.theonion.com/trump-forced-to-shut-down-blog-after-publishing-hulk-ho-1847026382

never forget that one of the names most pivotal to the shifting of the media landscape in the early 2000s was bubba the love sponge

At the end of the video, Clem can be heard telling Heather, "If we ever need to retire, here is our ticket". Hogan filed a lawsuit against the Clems for invading his privacy on October 15, 2012. He settled the suit on October 29, 2012. Following the settlement, Clem publicly apologized to Hogan. Hogan sued Gawker Media for publishing the tape, and a jury of six awarded Hogan more than $140 million in March 2016.

i like her but nevertheless feel unsettled

which is bullshit; nu nu nu gawker is not actually different from any other outlet

officially open for features pitches! not looking for anything super newsy at this time but if there’s something you’ve wanted to write for ages and haven’t because you’re not sure who would take a chance on it i want to hear from you! bra✧✧✧.jen✧✧✧@gaw✧✧✧.c✧✧

— Brandy Jensen (@BrandyLJensen) June 1, 2021

I hope they bring back the Gawker Stalker map, that was the best