Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy (novel, miniseries, and forthcoming film to be directed by Tomas Alfredson)

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there are two BBC radio adaptations of Tinker.. I'm listening one which is labelled V2, perhaps the 2nd one - but anyway it's a 7 parter and is very good.

calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

the other one I've not listened to is split into 3 eps. I wish the BBC would still do radio drama of this quality.

calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

Bernard Hepton does a decent George Smiley and he was also in the TV adaptation as Toby Esterhase.

calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

I'm watching the TV adaptation of The Night Manager at the moment, and it's absolutely gripping. No spoilers please.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:02 (three years ago) link

The Night Manager (the movie) is good; the Amazon Prime version of The Little Drummer Girl is even better.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:10 (three years ago) link

night manager, the constant gardener and most wanted man were all perfectly fine adaptations of what are IMO more conventional (and less ambitious) thrillers of his.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

Conventional suits, often enough

is right unfortunately (silby), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

We watched ep 1 of the BBC Tinker Tailor (Guinness) series last night. Forgot I somehow had it on bluray

Enjoying it so far
*furtive glance*
*stares*
*puts on glasses*
*furtive glance*

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

Could we poll 'best at putting on/taking off glasses'?

Guinness as Smiley, David Caruso in CSI, uh.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

I wish I wore a tie so I could take my glasses off and clean them on the end like Smiley.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

I want thick George Smiley lenses to magnify my inscrutable gaze

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link

I'm midway through the BBC series (first ever watch). The scene with Connie is tough in the book but Beryl Reid takes it to a whole other level. Heartbreaking.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:33 (three years ago) link

Could we poll 'best at putting on/taking off glasses'?

Guinness as Smiley, David Caruso in CSI, uh.

Worst - David Bowie in "The Man Who Fell to Earth" or Derren Nesbitt in "The Prisoner" (Episode: "It's Your Funeral").

Godless Tiny Tim (Tom D.), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

"Out of the secret world I once knew, I have tried to make a theater for the larger worlds we inhabit.” - John Le Carré

Few can capture the intrigue of espionage as masterfully as #JohnLeCarre. Many will remember this literary giant's life and works for generations to come. pic.twitter.com/gCjX6s1KQU

— CIA (@CIA) December 14, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 December 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link

RIP. I read and liked at least a half dozen of his books, but literary giant? Naw.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Monday, 14 December 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link

You missed a comma.

He was literary, giant.

His casket is actually two regular-sized caskets glued together at the ends.

mildew and sanctimony (soda), Monday, 14 December 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link

gr8 post m8

I hastily abandoned the BBC radio production of Smiley's People after 5 minutes because as much as I admire Simon Russell Beale as a very fine actor, his voice just isn't right as George Smiley. But maybe I'll return to it another time.

calzino, Monday, 14 December 2020 22:34 (three years ago) link

the foley for wiping your glasses with your tie is rubbish tbf

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, 14 December 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link

from elsewhere:

One of my professors was the student of the don at Oxford who recruited John le Carré into MI6. I love le Carré's books so I was really intrigued by this, and asked him if he ever got recruited to MI6.

To my surprise, he said yes. But it was done in a very le Carré-esque style. My professor had an interview with MI6 which he thought he bombed, and then didn't hear back from them, confirming his assumption... until he got a completely out-of-the blue job offer from an obscure UK government agency that involved lots of travel to Norwegian fisheries. He told me with a smile that it wasn't until he turned down the offer that he realized that he had gotten the MI6 gig, but he failed the final test!

lukas, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 02:11 (three years ago) link

Shortly before filming began, Alec Guinness asked author John le Carré to introduce him to a real spy to aid him in preparing for his role. Le Carré invited Guinness to lunch with Sir Maurice Oldfield, who served as Chief of the British Intelligence Service from 1973 to 1978. During their meal, Guinness intently studied Oldfield for any mannerisms or quirks that he could use in his performance. When he saw Oldfield run his finger around the rim of his wine glass, he asked whether Oldfield was checking for poison—much to Oldfield's astonishment, as he was only checking how clean the glass was.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 04:49 (three years ago) link

there's that great scene in TTSS where Guinness/Smiley asks the waiter to allow the wine to chambre rather than pouring it immediately, I can't remember whether he also examines the glass though?

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 10:08 (three years ago) link

he does not. but the nuances of expression and gesture eg when smiley tastes the wine, or guillam irritably tells the waiter to just leave it there, are perfect in that scene as elsewhere.

Fizzles, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link

"sir this is a wimpy's'"

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 10:49 (three years ago) link

grudging lol

Sven Vath's scary carpet (Neil S), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link

Brian Cox is dependably great in the gripping radio play of The Spy Who Needed Some Lemsip.. but although he is barely in it so far I still can't accept SRB as the voice of George Smiley was a good choice.

calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 11:00 (three years ago) link

alec guiness slyly looking actual real spy maurice oldfield up and down and thinking "well i can do better than THAT"

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 11:58 (three years ago) link

playing smiley from now on forever is going to be mimicking guinness and claiming you didn't

mark s, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

Bernard Hepton (who was from Bradford) does an excellent job of the voice at least.

calzino, Tuesday, 15 December 2020 12:13 (three years ago) link

feel like 'love to ann!' should have become a meme

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 December 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link

otm

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 December 2020 03:05 (three years ago) link

I love Hywell Bennett (may he RIP) but his Australian accent = gasface

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:16 (three years ago) link

he was supposed to be strayan in this? no clue

mookieproof, Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:21 (three years ago) link

he was faking as an aussie when he first got in w boris’s wife in ep2 but he dropped it pretty quick

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 December 2020 05:46 (three years ago) link

Is he Australian in the show? In the book he’s from all over, mostly Singapore iirc, and he pretends to be Australian to seduce Irina.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

thats how he is in the show too

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 17 December 2020 16:12 (three years ago) link

watched the 7 ep original version for the first time this week. has been too long for me to identify what is excised in the 6 episode version but it definitely feels less elliptical

Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:06 (three years ago) link

How does one see this longer version?

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link

I sailed the high seas of internet piracy

Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

I had actually hoped/expected it to be on britbox - which I watch constantly now like a damn "expat" - but alas it wasn't (in Canada at least)

Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Friday, 18 December 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link

I can't understand the point of shitbox if it isn't streaming the best stuff.

calzino, Friday, 18 December 2020 22:03 (three years ago) link

iirc shitbox version in the UK is the seven episode version. interesting if they’re showing different versions in different markets.

no smiley’s people tho which i recall being indifferent to but deems’ commentary made me want to go back to it.

Fizzles, Saturday, 19 December 2020 06:44 (three years ago) link

Now we havent watched it since but its not been a week that leaves us attentive come shutting the laptops off at ....uh.....4pm

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Saturday, 19 December 2020 08:53 (three years ago) link

How does one see this longer version?

BBC finally released it as a Bluray last year. Previously only the 6 episode US version was available on Bluray, and the original UK version only on DVD.

Tuomas, Saturday, 19 December 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link

dont want johnny foreigner knowing our deep spy secrets, is why

mark s, Saturday, 19 December 2020 11:53 (three years ago) link

I'm rereading my way through the early lecarre novels. Well listening in fact Michael Jayston does a great job of capturing LeCarre's litery voice and sense of gloom, and does the decent thing by making sure that George Smiley sounds like Alec Guinness. Also appreciating the maturing in ending from the Detective style summing up in Call for the Dead to the brutal hard cut in The Spy Who Came in from the cold.

American Fear of Scampos (Ed), Monday, 21 December 2020 03:57 (three years ago) link

One episode to go of the BBC series. I mean, it's magnificent. Of so many standout setpiece conversations, the one with Ian Bannen might be the best - for tension, suppressed rage, the silences that speak of the horror of his confinement and torture. The oily Patrick Stewart was a surprise!

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 21 December 2020 10:42 (three years ago) link

I started A Perfect Spy a couple days ago. Perhaps too ambitious.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 December 2020 10:45 (three years ago) link

An OK Spy

spruce springclean (darraghmac), Monday, 21 December 2020 10:51 (three years ago) link

The Spy Who Came In ... is one where I've seen the alltime classic Richard Burton movie umpteen times and know exactly where it is going but still was gripped by the BBC radio adaptation with the good Brian Cox, almost like I thought it might all go to plan and end happily this time!

calzino, Monday, 21 December 2020 10:53 (three years ago) link

Finished the TTSS mini-series last night. Not much to add apart from more praise. One thing -not a misstep as such, just took me out of the action a bit: why did they decide on Prideaux going for the Miss Piggy option instead of shooting Haydon (as per the book)?

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Tuesday, 22 December 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link


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