Ha, the guy he did the bet with, Adam Gold, is a former editor of mine at the Nashville Scene. He's been loving this hilarity of course.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 December 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link
wonder if he laid a bet on the 2004 pazz & jop results
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 14 December 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link
If anyone's curious at this point, which I doubt, the first album was almost as good to listen to as it was to write about, which is saying a lot; the second one not as much, as tends to happen with second albums (Don: "You have your whole life to write your first album, six months for the second one." Well yeah.) But it did slink into my Nashville Scen Top Ten. The third was ridiculously bad.Other endeavors soon became relevant to Duos with one member you love and one member you loatheBig K did some good mixes of his and OPP singles, also I liked this first solo joint (haven't heard others)---excerpted from Voice review of it and B&R associate Lil Jon Nicholson's:Live a Little, Big Kenny's pre-Big & Rich solo album, finally given a proper release on The Disney Music Group's Hollywood Records, brings thenoise candy, not the nose candy. It's a slowly spinning saucer, serving up a skyful of Purple Planetberries,bursting on cue, presented 2 U by B.K., a psych-pop-goes-thee-country impresario and aw-shucks-ma'am workaday wizard, bopping through amber waves with his drum machine. Kenny's as much wistful crooner as carny barker when singing through a megaphone-like vocoderabout "a place where dreams come true." He gets his comeuppance in "Cheater'sLament." Even more so, in "Think Too Much," with virtual drumsticks bouncing offthe cello-and-viola cloud growing around his (Traveling Wilburys-flavored) Orbisonic orbit.Yet also with a ready tip of his feathered top hat to "Dor-oh-thee, andLit-tle To-To," flying by in "Rather Be."
― dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
the first album was almost as good to listen to as it was to write about
oh i agree
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link
For the rest of my life I will remain completely baffled by how this awful album became such an ilm touchstone.
I'm assuming even calling it "awful" out loud will get me FPed so I'll add, "so long folks".
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link
No, you're fine. There's room in the manger for all walks of life. As The Big 'un always says, "It Ken be done."
― dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link
I bought the album four years after this thread sprung to life and liked it quite a lot, but then again, this place is not the friendliest toward country, a genre which mixes schmaltz, arena moves, bad jokes, and pathos in ways that confuse people (and sometimes me).
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:46 (three years ago) link
I mean, I love it when ilm coalesces around an unexpected album and pushes me to check it out, but no matter how many times I tried with this, I didn't get it at all. Still don't.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 17:52 (three years ago) link
I'm going to guess--maybe I'm wrong--the coalescing had something to do with Chuck's over-the-top swoon at a moment when he was editing the Voice.
I have watched the video in wide-eyed, catatonic horror.
― clemenza, Monday, 14 December 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link
This happens. I never got Moby's beloved Play, much of Radiohead, much of Kacey Chambers, incl. 0 of her beloved Golden Hour ilm is the manger tho.
― dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link
Musgraves! Sorry Kacey Chambers, although I gave up on you too, to put it nicely.
― dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link
, this place is not the friendliest toward country, a genre which mixes schmaltz, arena moves, bad jokes, and pathos in ways that confuse people (and sometimes me).
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, December 14, 2020 11:46 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i honestly don't think i am confused at all by big & rich or country music
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
the whole big & rich thing on ilm basically always felt like like someone handed me a cold big mac and i tried to eat it and spit it out and then i'm told i need to go to culinary school to really appreciate it
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link
i checked out your life as a record by brandy clark this year because of ilm and that was a real treat, just great songwriting
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link
For me, a good example of the complete opposite of this was Last Train to Paris. It took a lot of convincing to get me to care at all about what Diddy was doing in 2010, but the ilm hivemind managed it and I absolutely fell in love with that record.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link
sounds like a good poll!
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link
this place is not the friendliest toward country, a genre which mixes schmaltz, arena moves, bad jokes, and pathos in ways that confuse people (and sometimes me).
there was definitely an element to the ilm big & rich thing of some people giving themselves a permission structure to continue writing off all other country music
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link
xpost - I'd be really curious to see what the list of "ilm event albums" looks like. These two, that Electrik Red record maybe?
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link
for sure
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:40 (three years ago) link
permission structure to continue writing off all other country music
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, December 14, 2020 12:37 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i see zero evidence of this
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
Peak into any year-end thread when an Eric Church single appears.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 December 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link
I don't really follow those too much
I guess why would anyone need permission not to like country music much less pretend to hate Big & Rich when secretly in your dark little heart you love it so much and listen to Save a Horse every day crouched in the closet in secret shame?
no one has to like anything
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
i was unclear, i didnt mean ppl were being disingenuous about hating big & rich, what i meant was a certain amount of the big & rich praise on ilm had a framing of "we all know country music sucks but FINALLY this is GOOD" that struck me as self soothing a little bit, giving themselves permission to continue writing off country as music for dumb racists because they like the album where the guys rap about not being racist.
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link
yet they turned out to be racists
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link
ahhh sorry OEO totally misread
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link
"FINALLY these are GOOD racists!"
― Halfway there but for you, Monday, 14 December 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link
I love country music from some mega-schmaltzy eras (e.g. 1987-1997) but have completely loathed Big & Rich from day one. It's just terrible stuff and I don't get it at all.
― real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link
I also hated Lonestar so I guess I do hate these guys specifically
― real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link
KiNG would have to be on that ilm hive list. And chuffing Balloon.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:46 (three years ago) link
avalanches are the classic ilm act for me. never seen them in anyone's record collection irl or heard anyone talking about them
― Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Monday, 14 December 2020 19:47 (three years ago) link
Oh yeah, I used to put some of their early stuff on mix tapes way before seeing anything about them on ilm. I guess they weren't all that well-known in the US, but I got compliments for the tapes.
― dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link
I was actually into Since I Left You before I came around to ilx, can't remember where I heard about it, probably some magazine review.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link
I think Sim0n Reyn0lds reviewed it pretty ecstatically in Uncut? I could be remembering that wrong.
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 14 December 2020 20:05 (three years ago) link
Yeah think I first heard them on magazine bonus comps.
― dow, Monday, 14 December 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link
Ah, that Reyn0lds review was in Spin. That is definitely where I would have seen it.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 14 December 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link
I have "Save A Horse" on my Elliptical Jams playlist, mostly unplayed since March.
― ... (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 04:27 (three years ago) link
the first B&R record still rules--but there was a lot of great Country music in that era
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link
Yeah, and that was when I started paying attention to it, beyond Willie---pop arena mainstream country was big fun, and I thought so much of it was going to keep being like that---spoiled me, waaaah
― dow, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
he paid out, it went to a military charity: https://tasteofcountry.com/john-rich-joe-biden-donald-trump-election-bet/
― Cool Im An Situation (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 November 2021 03:59 (two years ago) link
I met with @GovBillLee and @SchwinnTeach today at the Capital building. They told me new legislation will be put on the docket in this session to deal with "literature" that our kids are being exposed to containing obscene and pornographic content. They listened. We'll see.— John Rich (@johnrich) January 11, 2022
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 15:59 (two years ago) link
sounds like a cool jerk sesh bro
― Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 17:54 (two years ago) link
The press release calls Cowboy Troy "the world's only six foot five inch, 250 pound black cowboy rapper, who throws down in three languages and has a degree in economics to boot."
Seems like he should be Big In Europe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tofbP46Ohd4
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Wednesday, 12 January 2022 18:03 (two years ago) link
He's 6 foot 5. Probably big everywhere.
― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 13 January 2022 00:06 (two years ago) link
That first one’s kind of rapey. Guess who’s lyrics… pic.twitter.com/Gj7CklQ2E6— Rep. Gloria Johnson (@VoteGloriaJ) January 12, 2022
― i cannot help if you made yourself not funny (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 13 January 2022 00:09 (two years ago) link
lol. She's my state rep, one of our few local Dems. She just got redistricted out of her own district.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 13 January 2022 03:16 (two years ago) link
Doubling down, I guess.
Cepicky bill criminalizing "obscene" materials in school libraries rolled one week because of time constraints after singer John Rich compares librarians to perverts in a "white van."— Sam Stockard (@stockard_sam) February 23, 2022
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 24 February 2022 02:28 (two years ago) link
I want to know how a kid working at a fast food restaurant found the funding to purchase thousands upon thousands of dollars worth of rifles, ammunition and body armor. We need answers.— John Rich (@johnrich) May 27, 2022
― rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Saturday, 28 May 2022 18:49 (one year ago) link
Well clearly this is why we have to keep the minimum wage down
― rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Saturday, 28 May 2022 18:53 (one year ago) link
And then America tells him to step right up despite not allowing him to buy a glass of whiskey.— John Legend (@johnlegend) May 28, 2022
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 30 May 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link