Rolling Comic Books 2020 Visions

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yeah, the late era marvel and dc cartoony stuff could get mannered and sloppy.
no disrespect though! he was formative for me!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Friday, 11 December 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link

By cartoonist/illustrator standards, I don't think that was ever a real problem for him. It annoys and worries me how easily so many amazingly skilled drawers fall into cliche mannerisms, "overacting" and sameyness and I think he avoided that to a remarkable degree for someone who spent their life doing comics and illustration.

To focus on problem areas, I think he often struggled with smooth textures against rougher textures, he once said he makes his characters balder and shaved because "hair destroys form", I guess it's similar to when a lot of sculptors don't even bother trying eyelashes.

Although his writing and the writers he worked with were mostly very readable, I do wish he had some standout scripts because (unless my few unread Corben books surpass expectations) I wouldn't say he has any real must read books, but he had the skills to make one (true for so many great comic artists who never lucked out with a script).

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 December 2020 00:16 (three years ago) link

if you're looking for "problem areas" I would point to the guy's consistent default body types: 0% body fat mega-schlonged double-jointed men and impossibly cantilevered gargantu-breasted and buttocked women, all sculpted from the same stippled putty. I loved him, I remember Fantagor being one of the first comics I ever saw, but he was undeniably working in a specifically pulpy milieu that came with certain limitations. But I hear you.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 December 2020 01:55 (three years ago) link

Everyone could use more body types but the women were one of the main draws for me and there actually was quite a bit of variety: the super muscled women, skeletal woman in Den, quite a lot of bald and balding women, lots of different faces but he seldom drew people with fine delicate facial features.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:32 (three years ago) link

And quite a lot of grannies recently!

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 December 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link

All his people looked made of plasticene

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 12 December 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link

often they were

his distorto body types did often repeat over one phase in his career, but the stock shapes would change over time

(my impression based on reading a couple of things a decade, and glancing at a few more)

huge rant (sic), Saturday, 12 December 2020 12:18 (three years ago) link

Much of this is NSFW but it shows a bunch of his models, including Gilbertson, who I think worked with him for maybe a decade. Love his Nosferatu pictures.
https://muuta.net/wp/miscs/photo-models/
https://muuta.net/wp/figure-gallery/
https://muuta.net/wp/articles/karen-gilbertson/

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 December 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link

This is the Claire Wendling video I saw, there's way more of these with other artists, a few comics people but I think they're mostly concept artists. It's a fun series even when I'm not a fan of whoever is on and one of the hosts laughs at everything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtfRoXTbbUc

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 December 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

those corben photo model images produce some of the least corben looking corbens i've ever seen!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 December 2020 17:53 (three years ago) link

wendling is great btw

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 December 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

Have you read her books? The reviews of Amalou mostly said it was disjointed and confusing on a story level but I want to check it out sometime.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 December 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

I haven't! This thread is the first time I've heard of her!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 12 December 2020 19:27 (three years ago) link

I seen another interview with her and she said she was done with comics (or at least interiors) because she got tired of it and felt trapped, hasn't done comics stories since 2002.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 12 December 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link


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