Cyberpunk 2077

It's definitely playable. Flatmate has been playing it and his review is: "It's fine". It runs well on his PC and I've watched a few continuous Twitch streams and it looks good there too. I'd echo GTA comparisons and it also reminds me of like LA Noire or Heavy Rain a bit with all the criminal secrecy and unexpected interruptions (but my reference points are limited). I kind of can't wait to play it.

what about the dicks tho

You can craft your own dongle later on if you invest in engineering.

i'm gonna show my age and bafflement here, but i remember the Cpunk 2020 tabletop, and it was terrible! like it seemed even to us teenagers as a really tired retread of cyberpunk stuff in the mid-90s. and the system was really dated too.

and i gather that Keanu is playing the rock star character the writers came up with as cultural color. some of his "lyrics" are preserved on the internet, funny enough

here's 20jfg doing a thing on them in 2016: http://www.20jazzfunkgreats.co.uk/wordpress/2016/02/the-future-is-disposable-and-so-are-you-pt-1-cyberpunk-2020-role-soundtracks-1-solo/

this is a shadowrun board (lol) from 2003:

http://forums.dumpshock.com/lofiversion/index.php/t1847.html

Req
Nov 14 2003, 10:36 PM
With his breakthrough hit "Chippin' In" and his second album "A Cool Metal Fire," Johnny Silverhand exemplifies all that's wrong with CP202x music. Stupid little bastard.

Got the metal beneath my skin / I'm chippin' in

Riight. Listened to any real music lately, R. Talsorian? Sheesh.

at a base level it's just odd CDPR went this direction after the witcher. who wanted this?

i don't make too much of an effort keep my finger on the pulse of the world of video gaming but judging by what i've been hearing on the internet basically everyone

I'm about 2 hours in and enjoying it! Gameplay wise it's totally Deus Ex + GTA but it doesn't look like its advanced the genre or anything, it just seems a good example of a AAA game. They do the ray tracing of having lots of shiny surfaces and fog, but they do look REALLY fancy. THe hype is too high but I'm enjoying it for what it is.

On my OK-but-not-great PC (6600k/2060) it runs kinda bad? I think the CPU is the bottleneck but on medium at 1080p with RT and DLSS I can just about make 30fps. I've had one mission glitch out and I had to load an earlier save to get through, and there's the odd hilarious glitch of people walking through walls or cars appearing from below the tarmac or whatever. Definitely better shape than when Skyrim dropped and I played the hell out of that so maybe being old has just got me used to harsher times and kids today don't know how good they've got it, they've never had to configure AUTOEXEC.BAT to get the sound card working grumble grumble.

i really enjoyed this article

https://www.pastemagazine.com/games/shadowrun/shadowrun-review/

xxp to goole

we played a lot of r talsorian cyberpunk 2020 and shadowrun as teenagers, i still have first editions of each in my roleplaying game bookcase. you are otm, both are super campy and full of dumb slang and silly attempts to be edgy. we totally always played both for yuks, but i think we played a lot more cyberpunk (judging from the condition of the book) probably because it was more campy than shadowrun.

the system wasn't that bad especially compared to shadowrun's dice pools which made absolutely no sense. it was so quick and dirty and easy to understand, i mean you can sum in the entire system pretty much in a parenthetical (d10 + stat + skill vs difficulty level of 5/10/15/20/25/30)

sum up*

they've never had to configure AUTOEXEC.BAT to get the sound card working grumble grumble

lmao

i remember spending like an entire week downloading ultima vii on a dialup connection. that shit was like a dozen 3.5 floppies!

Cyberpunk 2020 was fine when it came out in 1988. By the mid-90s yeah, it would be dated both mechanically and in it's cheesy aesthetic. But it captured the vibe of the pulpy cyberpunk stuff like Hardwired really well.

i played part of a cyberpunk 2020 campaign earlier this year. it was pretty fun, but then i got into a big fight with the GM and blew it up

honestly, though, i thought i would be really pumped up to play 2077, and maybe i'm letting too much of the negative reviews/bugs stuff influence me, but i am in no mood to play it right now

then i got into a big fight with the GM and blew it up

couldn't agree who got dong 1 and who got dong 2 huh

i have pdfs of all the shadowrun and cyberpunk books; if that's anyone's madeleine, ilx mail me and i'll pass them along

for some reason, the thing i got most obsessed with as a kid with cyberpunk was the monomolecular garrote where it spools in your knuckle and you pop off your fingertip to pull it out. i thought that was the COOLEST

forks are you aware of THE TROVE

well i am now! how are they not getting c+d letters every day?

idk i figure either some kind of pirate bay-esque "our server is in international waters on an oil platform" type fuckery or maybe the $$$ lost in pirating dnd books is just real small potatoes

just like the pirate bay they tend to go down for a few weeks every so often before they find a new host with an even more obscure top level domain

it's a ridiculous collection, even on a cursory look around

yes it's very comprehensive!

at a base level it's just odd CDPR went this direction after the witcher. who wanted this?

I want a cool cyberpunk (note lowercase) RPG! But as my luck would have it, CDPR were the ones to develop it. :(

The Shadowruns were pretty well received, no? I only started playing the first one and it seemed solid.

oh wow lg thanks for the tip, hours of fun in there

full of dumb slang and silly attempts to be edgy.

i'm trying to remember all the fake words for "dude," "fuck" and "cocaine" that these games came up with now

at a base level it's just odd CDPR went this direction after the witcher. who wanted this?

every major studio with a big open world fantasy franchise has to also have a big open world sci-fi franchise and vice versa so it was only a matter of time

There is a cyberpunk book bundle at the moment for what it's worth

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/cyberpunk-r-talsorian-books

the driving is ridiculous, in a good way for me. Like sometimes I'll turn on GTA for 15 minutes just to cruise around and die. So yknow often I'll stop solid many times in collisions. In this game you can basically hit a car at speed and go under its wheels.

And then I found another car that just went right through all the other cars. Yeah pretty buggy.

GTA but more RPG-like: i didn't have the toughness stats to steal the magic car, but i could still shoot the guy and take it

Just gave it a quick test run on PS4 and while I haven't encountered any noticeable glitches, this comes across slightly unfinished, rough round the edges and overall a bit of a hot mess

There's something a bit hackneyed about the aesthetic too. I get that this is "cyberpunk" but so far it's not exactly a twist on an old favourite, rather I can't work out if it's meant to be parodic or not

its an adaptation of a specific tabletop rpg from the 80s that as ppl said upthread was already hackneyed at the time

i'm trying to remember all the fake words for "dude," "fuck" and "cocaine" that these games came up with now

― goole

sounds like you got brain burned from too much wizz, choomba!

The Shadowruns were pretty well received, no? I only started playing the first one and it seemed solid.

― pomenitul

yeah i started shadowrun returns (2013) and it was pretty good!

i have no idea why i'm even considering a stadia subscription tbh i haven't finished a video game since borderlands 1 (and the last one i even came close to finishing before that was bioshock 1)

early returns on this seem dire both in this thread and elsewhere; I am writing it off at least until i get a PS5

the subreddit for this game is kind of hilarious rn

Are we talking bugs or peppy true believers struggling to keep it positive

holy shit @ some of the screenshots: https://www.reddit.com/r/LowSodiumCyberpunk/comments/kbptgt/its_mind_blowing_how_great_the_game_looks_in_4k/

Whut

Are we talking bugs or peppy true believers struggling to keep it positive

― hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Saturday, December 12, 2020 1:30 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

terms like 'betrayal' are coming up frequently

details matter cd projekt needs to do better

C'mon @CyberpunkGame, of all the bugs, this is the worst! There may be some canon reason why German manhole covers are used in Night City. But, please, DIN B125 is only allowed approved for pedestrian walkways. On roads, it should be a Begu D400 to support the weight! pic.twitter.com/i3nl0bn0vF

— Wintermute (@ClipperChip) December 11, 2020

from a great distance, eurogamer review seemed likely the most honest one i've seen
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-12-10-cyberpunk-2077-review-intoxicating-potential-half-undermined-half-met

it's almost as if they should have delayed it's release to kill the bugs

*ducks*

“There seem to only be a handful of items to be found in Cyberpunk 2077's world: playing cards, alcohol, junk food, and an absolute sea of dildos.”

so is it worth getting a refund on the base PS4 version, or better to just wait out for updates and patches? i just wonder if the game mechanics themselves will be improved, or if all they're going to do is to prevent it crashing and glitching? so far, the whole thing feels really unfinished

I have a feeling the last gen releases aren’t going to get much better, performance wise. But I believe those with a PS4 version can upgrade it for free to the PS5 version whenever that’s officially released. If that matters to you.

Seems like there’s plenty to bitch about unrelated to bugs or performance issues. Like the car stuff is apparently pretty crappy. And car traffic has basically non-existent AI. Like you can shoot at people’s cars and they don’t really react. And they look like they’re tethered together like train cars going along a track. They also awkwardly pivot along a center axis. Cops apparently just “warp in” when you commit a crime. Pedestrian AI appears comically rough too. For a game that’s all about immersion, there’s a lot breaking it.

yeah... i mean, i can forgive bugs and glitches so long as they're not game-breaking and they get fixed with updates... but from the very beginning (and bear in mind i've played it all of 90 minutes) there's already a feeling that something's off.

the UI is fiddly. tiny boxes vs an over-sensitive cursor means i have trouble clicking on the thing i want it to. yet at other times it doesn't seem to respond to what i press until i hit the button for the third time. i also experienced some drift in the menu sections which i don't on other games.
as well as this, there's a fuzzy, slightly flashy quality to the menu borders that gives me a headache whenever i try to read any of the netrunner emails.

NPCs don't seem to respond in any sort of realistic way. in Witcher 3, people jump out the way, or spit, curse, make remarks etc. here, you can walk right up to someone and breathe in their face and they'll continue idling away in their animation loop, dead eyed and doing nothing. you have to be exactly the right distance away to initiate a "talk" option, and it doesn't always seem to work.

the short amount of time i was in a car was horrible. a ridiculous amount of acceleration but handles really strangely and unlike anything i've played in other games.

really, it's as though the fundamental details haven't been drilled down on at all. there's certainly a plan of a game here, but it's entirely surface-level and feels like an undeveloped industry demo. i'm not expecting better graphics (they could be less headache inducing, mind), but just a similar level of detail to Witcher or GTA would be great.

It is absolutely 100% a proof of the power of built-up goodwill that this apology for intentionally hiding the state of a game on 25% of launch platforms & likely crunching another two months for good boy tokens is going over so well with folks. Kudos for the refund thing, tho. https://t.co/RwrIIdTj11

— Rami Ismail (رامي) (@tha_rami) December 14, 2020

Their sly alt-right dogwhistles probably shored up a lot of that existing goodwill with a large % of their fanbase who are normally the type of people to get very animated about this shit

lol this wheelchair clip

pic.twitter.com/60hqo7JdLx

— Alex Prior 3̷͉͇̮͆̑́̓̓̋͗̇̚4̸̲̻̬̞̪̩̟̙͍̼̻̾̔̍͋̆͗͒̔̋͌͜͠ (@Alex_Prior_0) December 14, 2020