Cyberpunk 2077

yeah cd projekt owns GOG so they obviously want you to buy their game on their own site so they dont have to pay steam the 30% cut or whatever it is

lol cdpr has been doing that "100% of proceeds go to the CDPR fund" thing for years to make you feel like you're donating to charity and not a company that famously underpays and overworks its employees

valve sucks too just buy it on whatever you want

Don't buy it on PS4 or XBox One though

ooh bonus digital comic book

i buy everything on gog cuz no drm and you don’t have to load a frontend to play it, not that they don’t really want you to load their frontend these days.

i literally forgot i preordered this. don’t know when i did it. it almost-runs. definitely a deus ex / gta hybrid, and i mean if you’d told me it was that i probably would have bought it, so can’t complain, altho haven’t played enough to judge it yet. the driving is indeed bad, probably because gta is designed for sticks and deus ex is designed for m+k.

i don’t think choice+consequence is what makes something an rpg but obv that’s a pedantic rabbit hole; it’s as good as anything else.

I usually prefer GOG too but I'm kind of angry at them right now because their customer service is ass. I assume Steam's is no better, though.

(well maybe i do but having it in char development and not in story is sufficient.)

all i'm hearing about is dongs and glitches and whatnot, how is the actual game?

that is the game

https://i.imgur.com/tyHtWce.jpg

There's loads of glitch effects by design so who's to say really.

First 45 minutes went fine. I can see why it's first person as there's cutscene sequences and other elements that utilize that (I'm a "street kid" and a cop knocked me out) and they're going for this kind of immersion or whatever.. but hopefully there'll be third person for multiplayer?

Friend got it on PS4 Pro and said it seemed mostly fine out of the gate. Quickly turned to shit apparently as it opened up.

Was watching footage of the X-Box equivalent of the Pro and it was running around 20 fps and lower. Don't think I've seen a modern game look/run that poorly on a console.

Def a next-gen/beefy pc purchase only, and even then it seems like it's months away from being reliably playable. Hard to say if the core game is any good or not in the first place.

*Removes Bookmark from this Thread

idk what you're looking for re: "cut the performance chatter, is this any fun?" when it's seemingly unplayable dude

watch some pc reviews or something

"it's seemingly unplayable" is not the universal spirit in this thread, just on the internet at large. which i don't trust.
So presuming you can play it, of course I'm curious about if it's fun.

It's not just internet randos tho, plenty of reviewers have complained about it as well.

i diggit, seeking confirmation here, which is largely absent...?

Will report in a couple of years. 😎

Ouch:

https://www.ign.com/articles/cd-projekt-red-stock-decline-cyberpunk-2077

It's definitely playable. Flatmate has been playing it and his review is: "It's fine". It runs well on his PC and I've watched a few continuous Twitch streams and it looks good there too. I'd echo GTA comparisons and it also reminds me of like LA Noire or Heavy Rain a bit with all the criminal secrecy and unexpected interruptions (but my reference points are limited). I kind of can't wait to play it.

what about the dicks tho

You can craft your own dongle later on if you invest in engineering.

i'm gonna show my age and bafflement here, but i remember the Cpunk 2020 tabletop, and it was terrible! like it seemed even to us teenagers as a really tired retread of cyberpunk stuff in the mid-90s. and the system was really dated too.

and i gather that Keanu is playing the rock star character the writers came up with as cultural color. some of his "lyrics" are preserved on the internet, funny enough

here's 20jfg doing a thing on them in 2016: http://www.20jazzfunkgreats.co.uk/wordpress/2016/02/the-future-is-disposable-and-so-are-you-pt-1-cyberpunk-2020-role-soundtracks-1-solo/

this is a shadowrun board (lol) from 2003:

http://forums.dumpshock.com/lofiversion/index.php/t1847.html

Req
Nov 14 2003, 10:36 PM
With his breakthrough hit "Chippin' In" and his second album "A Cool Metal Fire," Johnny Silverhand exemplifies all that's wrong with CP202x music. Stupid little bastard.

Got the metal beneath my skin / I'm chippin' in

Riight. Listened to any real music lately, R. Talsorian? Sheesh.

at a base level it's just odd CDPR went this direction after the witcher. who wanted this?

i don't make too much of an effort keep my finger on the pulse of the world of video gaming but judging by what i've been hearing on the internet basically everyone

I'm about 2 hours in and enjoying it! Gameplay wise it's totally Deus Ex + GTA but it doesn't look like its advanced the genre or anything, it just seems a good example of a AAA game. They do the ray tracing of having lots of shiny surfaces and fog, but they do look REALLY fancy. THe hype is too high but I'm enjoying it for what it is.

On my OK-but-not-great PC (6600k/2060) it runs kinda bad? I think the CPU is the bottleneck but on medium at 1080p with RT and DLSS I can just about make 30fps. I've had one mission glitch out and I had to load an earlier save to get through, and there's the odd hilarious glitch of people walking through walls or cars appearing from below the tarmac or whatever. Definitely better shape than when Skyrim dropped and I played the hell out of that so maybe being old has just got me used to harsher times and kids today don't know how good they've got it, they've never had to configure AUTOEXEC.BAT to get the sound card working grumble grumble.

i really enjoyed this article

https://www.pastemagazine.com/games/shadowrun/shadowrun-review/

xxp to goole

we played a lot of r talsorian cyberpunk 2020 and shadowrun as teenagers, i still have first editions of each in my roleplaying game bookcase. you are otm, both are super campy and full of dumb slang and silly attempts to be edgy. we totally always played both for yuks, but i think we played a lot more cyberpunk (judging from the condition of the book) probably because it was more campy than shadowrun.

the system wasn't that bad especially compared to shadowrun's dice pools which made absolutely no sense. it was so quick and dirty and easy to understand, i mean you can sum in the entire system pretty much in a parenthetical (d10 + stat + skill vs difficulty level of 5/10/15/20/25/30)

sum up*

they've never had to configure AUTOEXEC.BAT to get the sound card working grumble grumble

lmao

i remember spending like an entire week downloading ultima vii on a dialup connection. that shit was like a dozen 3.5 floppies!

Cyberpunk 2020 was fine when it came out in 1988. By the mid-90s yeah, it would be dated both mechanically and in it's cheesy aesthetic. But it captured the vibe of the pulpy cyberpunk stuff like Hardwired really well.

i played part of a cyberpunk 2020 campaign earlier this year. it was pretty fun, but then i got into a big fight with the GM and blew it up

honestly, though, i thought i would be really pumped up to play 2077, and maybe i'm letting too much of the negative reviews/bugs stuff influence me, but i am in no mood to play it right now

then i got into a big fight with the GM and blew it up

couldn't agree who got dong 1 and who got dong 2 huh

i have pdfs of all the shadowrun and cyberpunk books; if that's anyone's madeleine, ilx mail me and i'll pass them along

for some reason, the thing i got most obsessed with as a kid with cyberpunk was the monomolecular garrote where it spools in your knuckle and you pop off your fingertip to pull it out. i thought that was the COOLEST

forks are you aware of THE TROVE

well i am now! how are they not getting c+d letters every day?

idk i figure either some kind of pirate bay-esque "our server is in international waters on an oil platform" type fuckery or maybe the $$$ lost in pirating dnd books is just real small potatoes

just like the pirate bay they tend to go down for a few weeks every so often before they find a new host with an even more obscure top level domain

it's a ridiculous collection, even on a cursory look around

yes it's very comprehensive!

at a base level it's just odd CDPR went this direction after the witcher. who wanted this?

I want a cool cyberpunk (note lowercase) RPG! But as my luck would have it, CDPR were the ones to develop it. :(

The Shadowruns were pretty well received, no? I only started playing the first one and it seemed solid.

oh wow lg thanks for the tip, hours of fun in there

full of dumb slang and silly attempts to be edgy.

i'm trying to remember all the fake words for "dude," "fuck" and "cocaine" that these games came up with now

at a base level it's just odd CDPR went this direction after the witcher. who wanted this?

every major studio with a big open world fantasy franchise has to also have a big open world sci-fi franchise and vice versa so it was only a matter of time

There is a cyberpunk book bundle at the moment for what it's worth

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/cyberpunk-r-talsorian-books

the driving is ridiculous, in a good way for me. Like sometimes I'll turn on GTA for 15 minutes just to cruise around and die. So yknow often I'll stop solid many times in collisions. In this game you can basically hit a car at speed and go under its wheels.

And then I found another car that just went right through all the other cars. Yeah pretty buggy.

Realistically, probably not until the Christmas holiday - I have ER and TotK to probably keep me going the rest of 2023 for whatever video game time I have left.

But when I bought ER it was either that or Cyberpunk I was choosing from. BG3 wasn't even on my radar. However, I might just cave and get BG3 for Mac OS and Cyberpunk for PS5 and slowly play both simultaneously or something. Or, just maybe, I should give gaming a break for a year and get back into Ableton and write some damn beats again, but that would be crazy talk

Had fun finishing this some months after release. But going back to dink around some time after they first had you reset all your character points, and noping out pretty quick, tells me I'm reeally not an RPG guy. There must be some webpage that could tell me a sensible way to spend the points to be an ok all around character right?

I'm the same way--though I do like RPGs, I don't dig all all that analyzing of point and perk percentages etc. Whenever I start a game like this, I usually just figure out my concept--sneaky sniper, charmer not a fighter, whatever--and just look up builds from those who've already put in the research. If you search "cyberpunk 2077 builds", you can probably find some. I think I used https://fextralife.com/guides/cyberpunk-2077-guides/, though those may be too specialized for your taste. Of course, in many games it's almost irrelevant once you get a certain level, and you can slaughter everyone with two hits.

What I've gathered from the retooled perks is that they've made it a lot more straightforward. The text tells you exactly what each does, what they apply to (weapon types/hacking/movement speed/etc.) and they're divided into tiers that unlock with skill points allocated to a particular aspect. Just browse around a little bit and you're good. I don't think I'll feel the need to look up any guides.

The other thing they seemed to have addressed is how there was a bunch of overlap once your character got to a certain level and you could just be insanely overpowered with little effort