Drum geek sick chops youtube thread

i appreciate the feedback! i'm still working through it - calling it a "music label" is probably a really misleading way to put it. it would be more like a co-op service for creative people, designed to replace the most expensive/privatized parts of the process with diy/co-op/in-house. if there is just one do-gooder with mastering skills and equipment, that could be their contribution to the co-op service. sure, that contribution would be much more important than most other people could provide, but that's part of a normal community. it's normal for people who have lucked out in life to subsidize those who haven't (yet). i think there must be someone out there who, miraculously, is financially secure but also still wants to be in a community with people who are not. or, probably much more likely, there is someone out there with those mastering skills/equipment who is NOT financially secure, but is a do-gooder and therefore is going to sacrifice some of their own personal wellbeing in order to help out a bunch of other people, anyway. in my experience, creative people are a) almost always broke and also b) generous with their time and energy. the trick is to find these people, and i already know some of them so that makes me optimistic

a simple reminder to play like you give a shit and imbue every backbeat with confidence & intention:

Yeah I have very strong feelings about this -- that more broadly you should really enjoy and feel emotion about everything you play, and if what you're playing is very simple and "boring" then you should try to vibe with what you're accompanying and just enjoy the way your simple beat supports it. I think a lot about the way someone like Nick Mason plays - no matter how simple he's playing, it always sounds like he's really listening to and vibing with the rest of the band, and it's hard to say how I know he's doing that, it's just in the feel of the drumming, even in between the fills (which he typically only puts at the end of phrases, keeping the rest of the beat simple). Or even simpler, Ralph Molina. I also think a lot about the drums on Don't Let It Bring You Down, almost minimalist, yet there's a lot of feel and emotion in them.

what the crap is going on in here?

Thinking about it in terms of drumming, it's definitely a double-edged sword. On the one hand, it's great that there's so much information that's available, and not gatekept behind lessons or a music education. It's amazing that you can see how people's hands move (instead of just your one friend in the school band who's decent at drums), get the sticking behind the lick, slow it down to .25 speed, etc.

NOT GATEKEPT is a key phrase here
maybe it's because i have had to maintain delusion-levels of belief in myself to progress as a drummer, or some other reason, but comparing yourself to others is a superhighway to feeling like shit. play like you feel it/be a conduit for the spirit and you may not ever be recognized but at least you are playing music in a way that is enjoyable and i think that is the point. ralph molina otm, he was one of my early role models. in case you wondered, i started playing 7 years ago this June. yes that much time has passed.

Had some actual lols at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzLg6aM3c7U

not a drummer: what is that loofa thing on his snare?

probably just for dampening (real pros use a wallet)

this video is cracking me up

just like his funny faces, and stuff, more than anything. i like this guy and his loofa!

xp I don't know what it's called but it's like this little collection of fake shells strung together that you shake for effect (used here to dampen the drum/add effect).

i assumed it was for dampening but it seems so convoluted for that purpose

esp a fan of "diarrhea of the hands," a phrase I think will enter my lexicon, and being highly interactive with the soloist, died at that one

Love Zackgrooves, his channel has been a good replacement for Rational Funk.

He's just ridiculously good but has his head on straight about everything (and is goofy & funny obv).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc6i6liFJ84

Don't know where to put this etc....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItZyaOlrb7E

lol that made the rounds years ago

i never get sick of it though

I feel very strongly that that drummer is at the right gig

Lol, was thinking the same thing.

Increasingly getting my drum jollies on instagram rather than youtube.

Monstrous and insanely creative percussionist I follow
https://www.instagram.com/akhamie.music/

This guy is my favorite rn though
https://www.instagram.com/p/CNpZKs6HT5u/

https://www.instagram.com/stevely_man_drums/

Hadn't ever paid much attention to James Gang or their drummer Jimmy Vox, but this is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo0vBdlWQs0

*Fox

Been getting into this French dude:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QABXwWOVOk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slHhwUY8hmA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty_y_2INYgo

Ok I'm pretty into the 'Everybody Want to Rule the World: Metric Modulation' challenge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F88Z4Tts4gY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-4cErugi8s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEBOIuUKO1w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RuVGHL-N78

great stuff indeed

Funk/jazz legend Dennis Chambers hearing Tool's 'Schism' sans drums and then taking a pass on drums a few minutes later. Pretty funking cool and kinda wild that what he came up with at points really is not all that far from Daney Carey's take. Dude heard this like once and then played this...yikes what a drummer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVwyAsU4dus

ha i loved that video

Yeah, that was fun.

Already posted something by Rafael Barata a while back, but nothing by Edu Ribeiro who is an equally big monster and stage presence:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPp6mZht230

That is the first tool song I’ve ever heard, all the way through

I’m with Dennis, “not my cup of tea”!

Tool (If You Think It's Over)

wow that Ribeiro vid is something!

feels like a missed opportunity to not let us hear the tool track without drums, but still a cool vid with Dennis too

sick counting chops with Mike Mangini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ37nonagho

I've been trying to avoid that Dennis Chambers/Tool video because the algorithm seems intent on me clicking it, but here's what I've been into:

-This Swiss kid who's a fantastic bebop drummer, that's a big thing I've been working on lately: https://www.instagram.com/peterprimusfrosch/

-Joe Farnsworth's insta/youtube posts

-This Japanese kid is who just ridiculous, doing the modern linear post-Chris Dave/JD Beck etc thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uo6Gkv2YLQ

This Swiss kid who's a fantastic bebop drummer

This Japanese kid is who just ridiculous, doing the modern linear post-Chris Dave/JD Beck etc thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uo6Gkv2YLQ

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I kind of hate this tbh, it's good chops but it just feels like a pointless exercise in how many different ways a beat can be subdivided. It's got nothing whatsoever to do with the tune he's playing over, not even in the most abstract/oblique way (other than being in 3)

I get what you're saying, the ubiquity of linear post-gospel chop style playing can all sound the same, it's meant to sound like a blur of displaced notes that miraculously resolves on the 1. But I'm pretty into this style that's more based around the backbeat, with all the skittery subdivisions in between. It's definitely not easy to make it groove (and I've noticed that the Louis Cole/JD Beck trick of putting splash cymbals or household items on all your drums really helps even out the sound between them, it makes it easier to play these beats and have it sound like a cohesive thing).

That video might not be the most musical example, but I think the point of the video is to show how many ways a beat can be subdivided. :) It's basically a backing track and he's got some fresh ideas. The culture of internet virtuosity has its problems, but I watch these for inspiration and to find a little something in there I can practice/incorporate.

A couple more:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81-6sUmUpHg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OolnA7ElNpU

I love the Tears for Fears Metric Modulation challenge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEBOIuUKO1w

haha, I see we've already been over this and, in fact, may be where I learned about it XD

Caught...in an ILX drum machine time loop!

There are so many young players out there that have just flat out samarai skills, it's scary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9iIf4tFoyE

It really is. Not only is there so much information out there, but just having the opportunity to watch great drummers at any moment makes such a difference. And there's something about seeing kids in their bedroom doing it that makes it seem much more attainable.

Like, I really need to immerse myself for some things to sink in, and I think I could have been soooo much better when I was younger if I had Youtube. Instead I only got to see someone with good hands at drum lessons or at shows, when there was also a lot of other things going on.

I'm more focused on guitar than drums these days, but I definitely learn and master things more easily and quickly now with youtube than I did in my teens/20s. I spent so much time flailing around trying to figure out how to do things. I don't think I wasted it per se, because I think I learned a lot from all that flailing, it just wasn't necessarily an efficient or effective way to learn when I wanted to develop specific skills/sounds/techniques.

Anyway there are guys that do that hyper-subdividing thing really interestingly and well. I mean I like Chris Dave, but he also grooves so hard. And I've been really into this guy Steve Lyman for a while now, and he definitely does that, but he also has a really poetic flow and it seems purposeful.

there's a fine line between doing that in an interesting way and being the @zachgrooves "diarrhea of the hands" guy

I was just watching Steve Lyman, he's great. I think that's a huge disservice to ZackGrooves though! He can do the gospel chops thing but he knows what it is, and if anything he downplays it. Out of anyone he can play that intricate linear stuff with such pocket and conviction, and can also be a very tasteful jazz drummer. Idk, I've found his videos to be really inspirational and I bet he's only minutes away from getting some legit gigs.

Matteo Mancuso is a guitar version of these young ninja players. That dude's got some crazy unique picking technique that even has guys like Al DiMeola and Steve Vai going how the f' do you do that? And going by some videos, he kinda had most of the mechanical part down as a teenager.

Mike Mitchell is entirely too much, man. Just raising the bar so high.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uri8hvC4Ddo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agWHe71VAvs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9apDcFEmz0E