Cyberpunk 2077

For my money, there's maybe a couple of CRPGs (Planescape: Torment, Disco Elysium) that top TW3 in the writing department (well, as far as the side quests are concerned – its main quest was middling at best), so which ones did you have in mind, Leee?

eh, footage I've seen is third person driving and first person walking/fighting. You can't do the latter in a third person view?

Thinking to try this, it's the first time I've had the hardware to run the hot new thing. And the motif is cool. I'm generally witch averse.

Multiplayer apparently isn't coming til 2022 or even later. Lots of time to get decent at it!

i will play this when i get a ps5, sometime late next year

up until recently i was planning on being an early ps5 adopter, but then my macbook pro exploded so that ps5 became a mac mini. life is so hard

Depending what part of the MacBook exploded, that could've been a nice Mini

Maybe get it on Stadia?

https://www.vg247.com/2020/11/19/cyberpunk-2077-comes-free-copy-stadia-premiere/

They reportedly hit more than a million simultaneous players on Steam. I can't remember the last time a game was hyped this hard.

shame to see another death march rewarded

it's 2077. Ashton and Dax are up to it again.

so which ones did you have in mind, Leee?

Not any RPGs I can think of, tbh (though if we broaden to narrative-driven games, I'd say anything from Naughty Dog would be an obvious improvement). I mean, I'm probably cherry-picking, but there was one Skellige sidequest that just made me give up on the game entirely: Geralt helping the daughter of the thane (or whatever his title) exorcise a haunted place that involved cooking a baby but no not really.

Fair enough! Btw that one didn't especially bother me. I get the sense that very few players actually went through with Cerys's plan, which is so obviously batshit that it's almost an Easter egg. Anyhow, I think Hearts of Stone is the best-written yarn in the whole series..

lol didn't know we had this feature

speaking of stadia, has anybody tried it?

now that i'm working from home, i.e. sitting in my office on zoom for 6-9 hrs a day, i'm using a wired "gigabit" connection that reliably gets 300-500 Mbps (depending on the time of day)

maybe it would make sense?

there was some discussion on the google gaming thread but it didn't seem like anybody ever gave it a shot

i'm thinking since i don't really care at all for multiplayer gaming maybe the lag wouldn't bother me as much as it does other ppl

If I hadn't upgraded my computer recently I definitely would have considered it to play this game. But not for an extra $100.

a pal of mine has stadia and said it works. have to have 'fuck you' internet though, which it sounds like you do

90% of the commentary on this on the web has been “it runs like poop.” Is the *game* any good ?

you can have two dongs

you can make ur char a sex offender
https://i.imgur.com/wH8o144.jpg

lol barcode, I admire your commitment to the dong.

smash that mf'ing RB
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Having never bought a big AAA PC title digitally... it makes no difference where I buy it, right? I guess the developer has some tie with gog.com, and the game's subreddit is yelling at people to buy it there. gog.com is prominently advertising "100% of your money goes to" the developer as if they are starving artists. No doubt it's pretty wild at that studio right now but it's weird to see the Bandcamp-style promo for such a huge release.

I use Steam in-home streaming sometimes, but I can just add it in to Steam and it'll be the same as if I bought it there, right? Don't care about Steam achievements and all that.

GOG is DRM-free, which means you don't need their launcher to run the game.

it's weird to see the Bandcamp-style promo for such a huge release

not only that, they made public the fact that developers get 10% of revenue ... for 2020 sales only. buy the game now or the dev gets it!

OK OK OK !

yeah cd projekt owns GOG so they obviously want you to buy their game on their own site so they dont have to pay steam the 30% cut or whatever it is

lol cdpr has been doing that "100% of proceeds go to the CDPR fund" thing for years to make you feel like you're donating to charity and not a company that famously underpays and overworks its employees

valve sucks too just buy it on whatever you want

Don't buy it on PS4 or XBox One though

ooh bonus digital comic book

i buy everything on gog cuz no drm and you don’t have to load a frontend to play it, not that they don’t really want you to load their frontend these days.

i literally forgot i preordered this. don’t know when i did it. it almost-runs. definitely a deus ex / gta hybrid, and i mean if you’d told me it was that i probably would have bought it, so can’t complain, altho haven’t played enough to judge it yet. the driving is indeed bad, probably because gta is designed for sticks and deus ex is designed for m+k.

i don’t think choice+consequence is what makes something an rpg but obv that’s a pedantic rabbit hole; it’s as good as anything else.

I usually prefer GOG too but I'm kind of angry at them right now because their customer service is ass. I assume Steam's is no better, though.

(well maybe i do but having it in char development and not in story is sufficient.)

all i'm hearing about is dongs and glitches and whatnot, how is the actual game?

that is the game

https://i.imgur.com/tyHtWce.jpg

There's loads of glitch effects by design so who's to say really.

First 45 minutes went fine. I can see why it's first person as there's cutscene sequences and other elements that utilize that (I'm a "street kid" and a cop knocked me out) and they're going for this kind of immersion or whatever.. but hopefully there'll be third person for multiplayer?

Friend got it on PS4 Pro and said it seemed mostly fine out of the gate. Quickly turned to shit apparently as it opened up.

Was watching footage of the X-Box equivalent of the Pro and it was running around 20 fps and lower. Don't think I've seen a modern game look/run that poorly on a console.

Def a next-gen/beefy pc purchase only, and even then it seems like it's months away from being reliably playable. Hard to say if the core game is any good or not in the first place.

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idk what you're looking for re: "cut the performance chatter, is this any fun?" when it's seemingly unplayable dude

watch some pc reviews or something

"it's seemingly unplayable" is not the universal spirit in this thread, just on the internet at large. which i don't trust.
So presuming you can play it, of course I'm curious about if it's fun.

It's not just internet randos tho, plenty of reviewers have complained about it as well.

i diggit, seeking confirmation here, which is largely absent...?

Will report in a couple of years. 😎

Ouch:

https://www.ign.com/articles/cd-projekt-red-stock-decline-cyberpunk-2077

It's definitely playable. Flatmate has been playing it and his review is: "It's fine". It runs well on his PC and I've watched a few continuous Twitch streams and it looks good there too. I'd echo GTA comparisons and it also reminds me of like LA Noire or Heavy Rain a bit with all the criminal secrecy and unexpected interruptions (but my reference points are limited). I kind of can't wait to play it.

excellent thoughts, thanks blatherskite

good music choice

Thanks. Perfect example: I was cruising around yesterday just to explore, and stumbled on this protest at a brain dance studio:

https://i.imgur.com/lp4YocY.png

I walk up to it and… nothing. There’s no dialog from the protest leader or any of the crowd members. Not even crowd noise. They’re just mutely pumping their arms. By contrast, I think of a time I was playing Red Dead Redemption 2 and stumbled across a little event as I passed by a clearing: three KKK members were arguing about how to light a cross, which then fell on them and set them on fire. It was a neat little moment that felt like the world was happening beyond my character.

(I think the worst offender I’ve encountered is L.A. Noire, which I should have loved due to its subject matter, but was completely dead: nothing ever happened in the open world outside of missions, despite how beautifully rendered the city was.)

there’s a quest related to the protest you can do, but it starts elsewhere

Finally finished this after beginning in February. Opinion didn’t waver much from the above: a blast to play, but some frustration that I could see a better game peeking through if some of it had been fleshed out a bit more. (For instance, after finishing their side jobs, the romance partners don’t really have much to say or do, beyond some texts.)

For those who finished, what ending did you all get, and were you happy with it?

I originally started going for the ending where V joins the nomads, since it seemed a closest to a happy ending. As it progressed, though, I felt dissatisfied. I always played V as lusting after Night City fame, so it didn’t feel right the my level 45 badass would chuck it all to live a dusty tent, even if Judy joined her. I opted for the secret ending, instead, so I could storm Arasaka with Johnny at my side and become queen of the Afterlife. Plus, the final scene approaching the space casino gave me heavy Neuromancer vibes. A shame about being dumped by Judy but, hey, I bet the DLC will include whoever the player romances, even in passing. And if not, well, we only knew each other a few in-game weeks at most, right?

The game uses these blue and green windows a lot

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they should make a sequel called naturepunk, not sure what it would entail

I'm not sure why walking around night city is so boring

I watched Strange Days for the first time last night—that whole braindance tutorial with the robbery has to be a homage to the film.

@lag00n

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solarpunk

https://globalpattern.bandcamp.com/album/solarpunk-a-possible-future

Maybe the best thing about this game is that it saved rockstar from having to do it (badly)

Jig-Jig street?

I feel as bad for this game as one can feel for a AAA mega-hyped beast. The most beautiful open world, so full of work. It’s deserves applause for giving verticality to its world. Up into buildings, down into slums, and thought yeah there are locked doors everywhere, it does not feel like it due to how many inside areas are accessible. It is a game dependent on high-end hardware though. Most of my enjoyment would not exist if I was not playing this on a 1000nits OLED and a 3070 with ray tracing. It has so many flaws, but it deserves credit for the world it created and for how it has pushed video game hardware.

i havent played but that was the one part of the pitch that really appealed to me, so many games just push the map out wider and wider when what i really want is density and verticality

Honestly that’s the only reason I’m playing

That and all the neon in hdr. I popped an eye vessel playing this last night. Worth it

Also, I like when little numbers go over peoples heads when I shoot them. Essential part of any game

All it needed was a good writer and it’d be goty for me. Mix this with disco elysium and I would die

Yup

I probably mentioned this before but you don’t need a $2k rig to play this with hdr etc. check out GeForce now if you have a good internet connection

Night City Wotld Cup team

2.0's out and Phantom Liberty is dropping shortly

still making sense of the new skill tree. starting a new character, chooms?

I never played the base game, but I think I've seen people suggest starting from scratch?

that's the general recommendation

Is this worth playing now? Should I play this or BG3 after Elden Ring?

Depends on how long until you're going to be ready, I think. My suspicion is that the base game plus dlc is going to hit the sweet spot as far as functionality goes. The base game is pretty solid now, at least as far as my experience on the PC version goes.

this game has gotten a lot better but i was charmed enough by it to begin with that i was kinda disappointed when some update or other suddenly fixed the doppelganger problem wherein the dense city sidewalks had surged and teemed with around nine infinite sets of multiple-birth siblings

maybe it was my hardware

Realistically, probably not until the Christmas holiday - I have ER and TotK to probably keep me going the rest of 2023 for whatever video game time I have left.

But when I bought ER it was either that or Cyberpunk I was choosing from. BG3 wasn't even on my radar. However, I might just cave and get BG3 for Mac OS and Cyberpunk for PS5 and slowly play both simultaneously or something. Or, just maybe, I should give gaming a break for a year and get back into Ableton and write some damn beats again, but that would be crazy talk

Had fun finishing this some months after release. But going back to dink around some time after they first had you reset all your character points, and noping out pretty quick, tells me I'm reeally not an RPG guy. There must be some webpage that could tell me a sensible way to spend the points to be an ok all around character right?

I'm the same way--though I do like RPGs, I don't dig all all that analyzing of point and perk percentages etc. Whenever I start a game like this, I usually just figure out my concept--sneaky sniper, charmer not a fighter, whatever--and just look up builds from those who've already put in the research. If you search "cyberpunk 2077 builds", you can probably find some. I think I used https://fextralife.com/guides/cyberpunk-2077-guides/, though those may be too specialized for your taste. Of course, in many games it's almost irrelevant once you get a certain level, and you can slaughter everyone with two hits.

What I've gathered from the retooled perks is that they've made it a lot more straightforward. The text tells you exactly what each does, what they apply to (weapon types/hacking/movement speed/etc.) and they're divided into tiers that unlock with skill points allocated to a particular aspect. Just browse around a little bit and you're good. I don't think I'll feel the need to look up any guides.

The other thing they seemed to have addressed is how there was a bunch of overlap once your character got to a certain level and you could just be insanely overpowered with little effort