I found it obvious and cloddish. No surprises except when Tyler Perry was onscreen. I wish Verhoeven had directed.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:38 (three years ago) link
i read the book first too! i thought the movie basically removed everything i found annoying about the book
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link
i'm not sure how to counter "obvious and cloddish" but i found it visually awesome and appropriately creepy and cold
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:40 (three years ago) link
also idk the book has a binary structure right? and fincher had to make that more like an unfolding narrative and i think he did a great job of threading everything together
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link
Not having to read Gillian Flynn’s sentences makes the film an immediate improvement
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link
lol essentially yes
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link
the only thing I'd want excised is the Scott McNairy character/scene
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link
also, v good Fincher commentary track
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIJXB1jfB2o
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link
Maybe the novel (I've only read Sharp Objects) offered interior monologues or a narrator who made Pike's character less...transparent? She practically twirled a mustche. idk this played like a movie whose developments were obvious and took a long time time getting to the denouement.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link
idk maybe knowing the twist inoculated me against noticing any mustache-twirling, pike seemed to nail the "presents a cool surface beneath which roil the thoughts of a high-key sociopath" 2 me
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 19:53 (three years ago) link
the book alternates the two main characters as (unreliable) narrators iirc
― Number None, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 23:19 (three years ago) link
That's helpful. Maybe Fincher, trying to compensate, emphasized Pike's villainy as a way of reflecting the explicitness of the text.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 23:24 (three years ago) link
well this was a crock of absolute shit
― Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 18:22 (three years ago) link
Be crueler.
― Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link
Wouldn't go that far but this was too unfocused. Script needed a lot of work. I like pretty much everything Fincher's done but couldn't get into this one
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 00:34 (three years ago) link
Gary Oldman's vocal tics started to grate on me too
― Vinnie, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 00:35 (three years ago) link
the performance grated for me. my main issue was that I was constantly thinking "why am I watching this?" throughout the film, which is always a bad sign. I am favourably inclined towards fincher, and the film looks fine, but I think the script just sinks this thing.
― Babby's Yed Revisited (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link
Bill Nye as Upton Sinclair was a nice surprise. Would watch that biopic.
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 01:03 (three years ago) link
also i was watching with headphones and i maybe i'm crazy but it sounded like the dialogue had an effect on it to make it sound like you're watching a movie in a theater - a very slight echo/reverb
I noticed this too! It was fairly disorienting thru my terrible tv speakers.
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 01:13 (three years ago) link
_also i was watching with headphones and i maybe i'm crazy but it sounded like the dialogue had an effect on it to make it sound like you're watching a movie in a theater - a very slight echo/reverb_I noticed this too! It was fairly disorienting thru my terrible tv speakers.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link
― circa1916, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 02:37 (three years ago) link
Was that not fairly obvious for most people?
I would imagine so. Mostly just reminded me how much better it would've been at a theater.
― swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 04:19 (three years ago) link
my main issue was that I was constantly thinking "why am I watching this?" throughout the film
― G.A.G.S. (Gophers Against Getting Stuffed) (forksclovetofu), Monday, 5 April 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link
yeah, I kinda enjoyed it while watching but have thought of it 0 times since
― intern at pepe le pew research (Simon H.), Monday, 5 April 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link
very confused at the casting of 62-year-old gary oldman to play someone who was in their 30s and early 40s during the majority of the story, especially when you also have to make him look like shit.
beyond that, what everyone else said--it's a bad script.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link
have you seen photos of the real mankhe looked like he was 80 when he was 30oldman was a good choice!
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:35 (two years ago) link
https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5faeed169475b2442b5d2950/master/pass/Brody-Mank1a.jpg
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 1 May 2021 19:37 (two years ago) link
if anything oldman looks too young lol
i feel like if this movie were internally consistent mank would have written his hitpiece script about louis b mayer
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 May 2021 04:04 (two years ago) link
a bad pun ignored develops into a long, slurring ad hom attack, digging up stuff from the past. Mank is an ilxor.
― If you value Vox, we have an axe (Sufjan Grafton), Sunday, 2 May 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link