Marvel Cinematic Universe, Phase 4 & Beyond (and a chance to change your vote)

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hoping they insert Mulaney's Spider-Ham Who-Framed-Roger-Rabbit-style

DJP, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 16:17 (six months ago) link

It could be cool if they do it right.

It’s kind of funny that a generation will grow up thinking of multiple Spideys as a basic “Spider-Man” feature, when for most of Marvel’s history, there was only one Parker, he was a very singular hero... even while there were a few different Caps, Thors, Captain Marvels, etc. (I’m talking back in the ’80s, long before there were a zillion versions of every character.)

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 16:21 (six months ago) link

I mean, a generation already has grown up thinking multiple Spideys are a basic Spider-Man feature; Ben Reilly, although created in the 70s, came into his own circa 1994.

DJP, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 16:29 (six months ago) link

Huh, I had stopped reading by then.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 16:52 (six months ago) link

Spider-Man 2099 was an ongoing two years before that

not to mention that the film had Spider-Folk from six universes, but the original Spider-Verse comics on which the film was based featured Spidey-Persons from dozens of universes, crossed over half a dozen existing titles, launched several titles featuring new Spider-Ladies and recurring -Verse miniseries, and was itself adapting a video game by the same spider-writer-and-comments-troll.

huge rant (sic), Thursday, 10 December 2020 09:21 (six months ago) link

Anything with superheroes is fundamentally uninteresting to me, I don't like to begrudge others their fun but in the last decade it has become impossible to filter out while still being interested in other pop culture, just hope we can move on soon.

Gary Sambrook eats substantial meals (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 10 December 2020 10:23 (six months ago) link

May I c+p your post into all 413,209 threads about things that don't interest me? I think people would really enjoy that.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2020 12:10 (six months ago) link

We're 10,000 posts into the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Classic Or Dud thread, with about three or four of those posts saying "dud." You don't need to freak out on anyone who mildly says "idk, idgi"

huge rant (sic), Thursday, 10 December 2020 12:16 (six months ago) link

10000 posts in and OL still doesn't realize that this mega franchise is in no way similar to anything else in existence in terms of pop culture dominance and sheer unavoidability, just a straight decade of acting like people are needlessly piling on some poor random movie and not the default interest of human beings under the age of 50

, Thursday, 10 December 2020 12:48 (six months ago) link

I thought my joek was pretty mild, sic, compared to the umpteenth hyperbolic claim that we are still collectively unable to avoid this franchise that hasn't had a new entry in (checks) 1.5 years now.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:23 (six months ago) link

you've been posting like this much longer than 1.5 years and will continue to do so after covid dies down and disney begins pummeling movie theaters with their franchises once more

, Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:31 (six months ago) link

Yeah probably, because I enjoy the MCU movies and enjoy posting about how I enjoy the MCU movies in the thread dedicated to the MCU movies.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:36 (six months ago) link

I've also posted about how Disney's business practices are increasingly fucked and how I don't enjoy that but please don't let me interrupt ya flow.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:38 (six months ago) link

plenty of people here are capable of talking about enjoying this franchise without acting like someone shot their dog whenever it's lightly criticized. i still care enough about it to watch them in theaters. meanwhile you immediately jumped into this poll after it was made with your dukes up looking to rehash the same arguments with the same posters. it doesn't have to be this way!

, Thursday, 10 December 2020 13:52 (six months ago) link

there is only #onethread but unfortunately it's the politics thread

DJP, Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:05 (six months ago) link

I'm done I'm done

Anyway dud

, Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:10 (six months ago) link

Eh, who cares about criticizing the MCU? Plenty of valid reasons to do so imo and even those of us that are big fans do it too, at least about specific decisions/ideas. For me, it's just exhausting that people feel the need to go out of their way to jump into the one active thread about the MCU to remind us all how much they hate the franchise and don't get how anyone could possibly enjoy it. What's the point? Considering we keep it to one rolling thread at a time to cover multiple films a year, and now multiple upcoming TV series, it's not like ILM is getting flooded with obnoxious MCU threads.

I don't know, it's just that people get understandably annoyed when someone randomly parachutes into, say, the yearly rolling rap thread to remind everyone that they can't stand rap. But somehow it just keeps happening on the MCU threads and even just pointing it out is someone the wrong thing to do?

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:51 (six months ago) link

Understandable, but in that case it probably shouldn't be a Classic or Dud thread.

jmm, Thursday, 10 December 2020 14:58 (six months ago) link

Fair, I don't know if I understand the reason of why we are structuring them as such still.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:01 (six months ago) link

there just needs to be a thread exclusively for stanning the MCU and The 1975

, Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:06 (six months ago) link

*runs to the Guy Fieri thread*

DJP, Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:12 (six months ago) link

#onethread

jmm, Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:13 (six months ago) link

xp’s to sic – Obv. I’m aware of the Spider-Verse comics, which kicked off this trend – I was referring to there only being #OneSpidey in the sixties thru the eighties. (I acknowledge that the generation who began reading the comics in the early ’90s is also familiar with multiple Spider-Men; if not to the crazy extent of today.)

I mentioned the casting news to my son, and he just said, “They already did that!” (Then he added, “But this will be live-action, huh...”)

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:19 (six months ago) link

massive lol at Garfieri

DJP, Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:21 (six months ago) link

so can somebody point me to the casting news that kicked this off? I'm way behind and too busy to google things for myself

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:48 (six months ago) link

I apparently missed some of it myself. I knew that Jamie Foxx was going to be showing up as Electro but apparently Alfred Molina, Kiersten Dunst, and Emma Stone are also all slated to show up in this thing. (And possibly Charlie Cox as Daredevil? Which is the most exciting for me inasmuch as I just assumed they'd immolated the entire Netflix-verse.)

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:52 (six months ago) link

for some reason I read that as Charlie Day

DJP, Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:57 (six months ago) link

it's sort of amazing that he's managed not to be cast in an MCU thing already actually xp

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 10 December 2020 15:59 (six months ago) link

The other Spideys are showing up, too. Tobey & Garfield

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:00 (six months ago) link

One of the funniest jokes in The Good Place was in a flashback to the early 2000s... someone invites Kristen Bell’s character to see Spider-Man 2, and she’s like, “They made another Spider-Man movie? What for?”

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:04 (six months ago) link

for some reason I read that as Charlie Day

― DJP

it's sort of amazing that he's managed not to be cast in an MCU thing already actually xp

― it bangs for thee (Simon H.)

Word is they might be after a new Wolverine...

chap, Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:06 (six months ago) link

Tobey's the holdout so far, probably wants more $$$

Nhex, Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:07 (six months ago) link

I mean, maybe I'll warm on the concept if Garfield goes the Jake Johnson role and packs on 35-40 pounds to be the out of shape Spidey.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:10 (six months ago) link

I'm just spitballing here but I'm guessing these will mostly be cameos.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:20 (six months ago) link

Oh I'm sure. I guess good on Maguire for holding out for his $15 million cameo though.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 December 2020 16:32 (six months ago) link

$20m if he reprises

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/005/068/spiderman-3-1540228026.jpg

Number None, Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:05 (six months ago) link

Stayin' Alive

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:26 (six months ago) link

it's sort of amazing that he's managed not to be cast in an MCU thing already actually xp

I'd say he bet all his marbles on Pacific Rim (Idris Elba had the sense to play a character who died so he wouldn't get tied to the franchise)

DJP, Thursday, 10 December 2020 18:15 (six months ago) link

I thought my joek was pretty mild, sic, compared to the umpteenth hyperbolic claim

tbf you went hyperbolic in the very first post after the OP invitation to discuss whether these are classic or dud, which also provided an option for people to express their extreme cultural fatigue with the premise. If we're thread-policing, perhaps you shouldn't parachute into an explicit Dud or Exhausting? thread in order to melt down at the prospect of anyone expressing disdain or exhaustion, before anyone else has even had a chance to express enthusiasm, or in lieu of doing so yourself?



I was referring to there only being #OneSpidey in the sixties thru the eighties

yeah I was mainly throwing a drive-by annotation in for general thread-cruisers (there was also a TV adaptation of Spider-Verse in 2015, I found out while checking the dates!)

But: Ditko wrote & drew the #onespidey from 1962 to 1966; mostly-Romita-and-Lee, with a few Kane and Houseroy issues, wrote it until 1971; Gerry Conway became the third credited writer, and introduced the first alt.spidey in 1975. Then the symbiote Spidey started pranking Parker in 1984, and has never left. Spider-Woman's ongoing series started in 1978, and Spider-Ham's ongoing launched in 1985, two years after the Marvel Tails one-shot. That's a lot of generations growing up and old with multiSpideys running around in the comics, and he wasn't unusual in Marvel to have gone his first 22 years with only one main version.



Considering we keep it to one rolling thread at a time to cover multiple films a year, and now multiple upcoming TV series, it's not like ILM is getting flooded with obnoxious MCU threads.

#onethread

Terence Howard is... Iron Man

Edward Norton IS "The Incredible Hulk"

It's never too early to anticipate IRON MAN

It's never too early to anticipate IRON MAN 2

Od's Blood! Hath ILE no thread for anticipation of Kenneth Branagh's THOR? Verily?

Is it time for us nerds to start anticipating THE AVENGERS, directed by Joss Whedon?

just going to go ahead and have a Captain America: The Movie thread

It's always too early to anticipate Patty Jenkins's THOR 2

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. -- Marvel meets Joss Whedon meets...TV!

Od's Blood! Hath ILE no thread for anticipation of THOR 2: The Dark World? Verily?

We got Ant-Man movie

also just going to go ahead and have a Captain America: The Winter Soldier thread

The Avengers 2 -- Age of Ultron

Guardians of the Galaxy: Marvel mess in the making?

Benedict Cumberbatch IS Doctor Strange.

Radar Love: DAREDEVIL show on NETFLIX

Come anticipate CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR with me

Marvel's Jessica Jones

Od's Blood! Hath ILE no thread for anticipation of THOR: RAGNAROK? Verily?

Marvel's Luke Cage

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

Latest entry in the NETFLIX MARVEL GRITVERSE: Iron Fist

MARVEL GRITVERSE ASSEMBLE: The Defenders TV show

MARVEL TV HAIRVERSE ASSEMBLE: Inhumans

Black Panther (2018), dir Ryan Coogler

Avengers: Infinity War

We got Ant-Man and the Wasp movie

Now let us celebrate the angry white male mass shooter: THE PUNISHER on Netflix

Come anticipate animated Miles Morales in SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE with me
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
So, _Spider-Man_ then...
Doc Ock loves you, Spider-Man fans
Spider-Man 3 anticipation begins...now
What will happen in Spider-Man 3
NEW Spider-Man 3 Trailer
https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=57&threadid=1828
paul-bon victor uncredited cameo spider-man 3
Spider-Man 4 -- whether you like it or not
Spider-Man 4 (reboot thread) -- aka The Amazing Spider-Man
Anticipating Spider-Man: Homecoming (and then presumably Spider-Man: Prom)

Captain Marvel (2019), dir. Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck

Hulu's Non-Gritty Animated Marvel Universe: Pick Your Poison

Od's Blood! Hath ILE no thread for anticipation of THOR 4? Verily?

We got third Ant-Man movie

come anticipate scarjo as black widow in BLACK WIDOW, marvel studios' movie about black widow starring black widow

huge rant (sic), Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:18 (six months ago) link

We got lots of threads.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:20 (six months ago) link

(Did I start half of these? Feels like it.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:21 (six months ago) link

xxp Agree the symbiote adds a sort-of wrinkle; less so about Jessica Drew (she had no relation to Spidey beyond the name), though Julia Carpenter fits the bill more closely (1984, same year / issue(?) as the symbiote). Spider-Ham? lol, I guess. My point was more than James Rhodes was Iron Man for a spell in the '80s; Steve Rogers was replaced by that Super-Patriot dude; Beta Ray Bill was kicking around; etc. -- but Spider-Man was always just the one guy. (I recognize that, my childhood aside, there have been multiple Spider-Folks for longer now than there was orginally just one.)

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:29 (six months ago) link

lol @ sic spending the time and energy to search up threads from fifteen years ago to prove me wrong. imagine putting that much energy in being a complete asshole online.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:36 (six months ago) link

I mean, jesus christ dude. For something that you ostensibly hate so much, that's an insane level of dedication to proving a point.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:39 (six months ago) link

sic, if I've ever engaged in hyperbole I will eat not just my own hat but also eight million other hats.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:39 (six months ago) link

But for real, maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the idea was, more recently anyway, an attempt to consolidate things in these threads so we didn't have dozens of threads about the MCU stuff. But I'm sufficiently shamed now by sic, so I'll ask for permission before I post about the MCU again.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:46 (six months ago) link

Yeah, you're correct: there's currently just this thread and, when/if it's ever released, the Black Widow thread will probably be revived. But sic-yphus gotta keep pushing that boulder.

You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Thursday, 10 December 2020 22:55 (six months ago) link

From the moment I joined @LokiOfficial it was very important to me, and my goal, to acknowledge Loki was bisexual. It is a part of who he is and who I am too. I know this is a small step but I’m happy, and heart is so full, to say that this is now Canon in #mcu #Loki 💗💜💙 pic.twitter.com/lz3KJbewx8

— Kate Herron (@iamkateherron) June 23, 2021

Which is awesome though I did wonder if there are parts of the community who will be unhappy at the higher percentage of bi visibility that are now trickster gods of lies.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 24 June 2021 21:44 (yesterday) link

The FX and direction are *really• impressive. And somehow manages to be flamboyant without being Fukunaga-ishly "look at me!!!"

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 24 June 2021 21:58 (yesterday) link

"my sole personal intent in taking this job was to represent bisexuality by making it clear that the most self-interested and mendacious people in the world will take advantage of either binary gender if it suits their own nefarious purposes 🌈"

it worked for John Constantine though, so

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 24 June 2021 21:59 (yesterday) link


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