Marvel Cinematic Universe, Phase 4 & Beyond (and a chance to change your vote)

they'll need to add more Spiders-Man and Girls if they're going to sorta hit the key diversity theme

Maybe this is Mysterio running the same scam again. Maybe every future Marvel movie will end by revealing that actually it was Mysterio.

iirc doesn't Mysterio make that multiverse claim himself in the movie, as part of his ruse? Between the timeline resolution of the Avengers, Spider-verse and Dr. Strange title, and possibly what they hinted at with the Vision/Witch show, they're definitely leaning in to this. Someone versed in the comics could maybe make a good guess as to the overarching plot or big bad. I have no idea. Does Captain Marvel 2 have a title or casting? They've hinted at introducing Adam Warlock a few times now, I think. Certainly a multiverse scenario could allow, say, the Fantastic Four to just pop in as a deus ex reboot at the end of a movie. Lots of ways Marvel can go, assuming they even want another giant overarching crossover scenario.

Yeah, I have no issue with the multiverse idea and that's clearly where we are heading, I was just saying that it seems kinda lazy to launch into it with a do-over of the multiple Spider-Men thing. Especially since the Spider-Man flick is slated before the Dr. Strange sequel, which will obviously lean heavily into the multiverse too.

I just have no idea why they'd want to maintain any association with the awful Andrew Garfield movies

there's (un)surprisingly a small, vocal fanbase online who grew up with and liked those movies

i can't lie though - i am excited to see all those jabronis in one big battle royale. even the characters who died! let's get Topher Grace in there while we're at it

hoping they insert Mulaney's Spider-Ham Who-Framed-Roger-Rabbit-style

It could be cool if they do it right.

It’s kind of funny that a generation will grow up thinking of multiple Spideys as a basic “Spider-Man” feature, when for most of Marvel’s history, there was only one Parker, he was a very singular hero... even while there were a few different Caps, Thors, Captain Marvels, etc. (I’m talking back in the ’80s, long before there were a zillion versions of every character.)

I mean, a generation already has grown up thinking multiple Spideys are a basic Spider-Man feature; Ben Reilly, although created in the 70s, came into his own circa 1994.

Huh, I had stopped reading by then.

Spider-Man 2099 was an ongoing two years before that

not to mention that the film had Spider-Folk from six universes, but the original Spider-Verse comics on which the film was based featured Spidey-Persons from dozens of universes, crossed over half a dozen existing titles, launched several titles featuring new Spider-Ladies and recurring -Verse miniseries, and was itself adapting a video game by the same spider-writer-and-comments-troll.

Anything with superheroes is fundamentally uninteresting to me, I don't like to begrudge others their fun but in the last decade it has become impossible to filter out while still being interested in other pop culture, just hope we can move on soon.

May I c+p your post into all 413,209 threads about things that don't interest me? I think people would really enjoy that.

We're 10,000 posts into the Marvel Cinematic Universe: Classic Or Dud thread, with about three or four of those posts saying "dud." You don't need to freak out on anyone who mildly says "idk, idgi"

10000 posts in and OL still doesn't realize that this mega franchise is in no way similar to anything else in existence in terms of pop culture dominance and sheer unavoidability, just a straight decade of acting like people are needlessly piling on some poor random movie and not the default interest of human beings under the age of 50

I thought my joek was pretty mild, sic, compared to the umpteenth hyperbolic claim that we are still collectively unable to avoid this franchise that hasn't had a new entry in (checks) 1.5 years now.

you've been posting like this much longer than 1.5 years and will continue to do so after covid dies down and disney begins pummeling movie theaters with their franchises once more

Yeah probably, because I enjoy the MCU movies and enjoy posting about how I enjoy the MCU movies in the thread dedicated to the MCU movies.

I've also posted about how Disney's business practices are increasingly fucked and how I don't enjoy that but please don't let me interrupt ya flow.

plenty of people here are capable of talking about enjoying this franchise without acting like someone shot their dog whenever it's lightly criticized. i still care enough about it to watch them in theaters. meanwhile you immediately jumped into this poll after it was made with your dukes up looking to rehash the same arguments with the same posters. it doesn't have to be this way!

there is only #onethread but unfortunately it's the politics thread

I'm done I'm done

Anyway dud

Every time an MCU is criticized, a dog of mine gets shot.

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Eh, who cares about criticizing the MCU? Plenty of valid reasons to do so imo and even those of us that are big fans do it too, at least about specific decisions/ideas. For me, it's just exhausting that people feel the need to go out of their way to jump into the one active thread about the MCU to remind us all how much they hate the franchise and don't get how anyone could possibly enjoy it. What's the point? Considering we keep it to one rolling thread at a time to cover multiple films a year, and now multiple upcoming TV series, it's not like ILM is getting flooded with obnoxious MCU threads.

I don't know, it's just that people get understandably annoyed when someone randomly parachutes into, say, the yearly rolling rap thread to remind everyone that they can't stand rap. But somehow it just keeps happening on the MCU threads and even just pointing it out is someone the wrong thing to do?

Understandable, but in that case it probably shouldn't be a Classic or Dud thread.

Fair, I don't know if I understand the reason of why we are structuring them as such still.

there just needs to be a thread exclusively for stanning the MCU and The 1975

*runs to the Guy Fieri thread*

#onethread

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xp’s to sic – Obv. I’m aware of the Spider-Verse comics, which kicked off this trend – I was referring to there only being #OneSpidey in the sixties thru the eighties. (I acknowledge that the generation who began reading the comics in the early ’90s is also familiar with multiple Spider-Men; if not to the crazy extent of today.)

I mentioned the casting news to my son, and he just said, “They already did that!” (Then he added, “But this will be live-action, huh...”)

massive lol at Garfieri

so can somebody point me to the casting news that kicked this off? I'm way behind and too busy to google things for myself

I apparently missed some of it myself. I knew that Jamie Foxx was going to be showing up as Electro but apparently Alfred Molina, Kiersten Dunst, and Emma Stone are also all slated to show up in this thing. (And possibly Charlie Cox as Daredevil? Which is the most exciting for me inasmuch as I just assumed they'd immolated the entire Netflix-verse.)

for some reason I read that as Charlie Day

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it's sort of amazing that he's managed not to be cast in an MCU thing already actually xp

The other Spideys are showing up, too. Tobey & Garfield

One of the funniest jokes in The Good Place was in a flashback to the early 2000s... someone invites Kristen Bell’s character to see Spider-Man 2, and she’s like, “They made another Spider-Man movie? What for?”

for some reason I read that as Charlie Day

― DJP

it's sort of amazing that he's managed not to be cast in an MCU thing already actually xp

― it bangs for thee (Simon H.)

Word is they might be after a new Wolverine...

Tobey's the holdout so far, probably wants more $$$

I mean, maybe I'll warm on the concept if Garfield goes the Jake Johnson role and packs on 35-40 pounds to be the out of shape Spidey.

I'm just spitballing here but I'm guessing these will mostly be cameos.

Oh I'm sure. I guess good on Maguire for holding out for his $15 million cameo though.

$20m if he reprises

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Stayin' Alive

it's sort of amazing that he's managed not to be cast in an MCU thing already actually xp

I'd say he bet all his marbles on Pacific Rim (Idris Elba had the sense to play a character who died so he wouldn't get tied to the franchise)

I thought my joek was pretty mild, sic, compared to the umpteenth hyperbolic claim

tbf you went hyperbolic in the very first post after the OP invitation to discuss whether these are classic or dud, which also provided an option for people to express their extreme cultural fatigue with the premise. If we're thread-policing, perhaps you shouldn't parachute into an explicit Dud or Exhausting? thread in order to melt down at the prospect of anyone expressing disdain or exhaustion, before anyone else has even had a chance to express enthusiasm, or in lieu of doing so yourself?



I was referring to there only being #OneSpidey in the sixties thru the eighties

yeah I was mainly throwing a drive-by annotation in for general thread-cruisers (there was also a TV adaptation of Spider-Verse in 2015, I found out while checking the dates!)

But: Ditko wrote & drew the #onespidey from 1962 to 1966; mostly-Romita-and-Lee, with a few Kane and Houseroy issues, wrote it until 1971; Gerry Conway became the third credited writer, and introduced the first alt.spidey in 1975. Then the symbiote Spidey started pranking Parker in 1984, and has never left. Spider-Woman's ongoing series started in 1978, and Spider-Ham's ongoing launched in 1985, two years after the Marvel Tails one-shot. That's a lot of generations growing up and old with multiSpideys running around in the comics, and he wasn't unusual in Marvel to have gone his first 22 years with only one main version.



Considering we keep it to one rolling thread at a time to cover multiple films a year, and now multiple upcoming TV series, it's not like ILM is getting flooded with obnoxious MCU threads.

#onethread

Terence Howard is... Iron Man

Edward Norton IS "The Incredible Hulk"

It's never too early to anticipate IRON MAN

It's never too early to anticipate IRON MAN 2

Od's Blood! Hath ILE no thread for anticipation of Kenneth Branagh's THOR? Verily?

Is it time for us nerds to start anticipating THE AVENGERS, directed by Joss Whedon?

just going to go ahead and have a Captain America: The Movie thread

It's always too early to anticipate Patty Jenkins's THOR 2

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. -- Marvel meets Joss Whedon meets...TV!

Od's Blood! Hath ILE no thread for anticipation of THOR 2: The Dark World? Verily?

We got Ant-Man movie

also just going to go ahead and have a Captain America: The Winter Soldier thread

The Avengers 2 -- Age of Ultron

Guardians of the Galaxy: Marvel mess in the making?

Benedict Cumberbatch IS Doctor Strange.

Radar Love: DAREDEVIL show on NETFLIX

Come anticipate CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR with me

Marvel's Jessica Jones

Od's Blood! Hath ILE no thread for anticipation of THOR: RAGNAROK? Verily?

Marvel's Luke Cage

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2

Latest entry in the NETFLIX MARVEL GRITVERSE: Iron Fist

MARVEL GRITVERSE ASSEMBLE: The Defenders TV show

MARVEL TV HAIRVERSE ASSEMBLE: Inhumans

Black Panther (2018), dir Ryan Coogler

Avengers: Infinity War

We got Ant-Man and the Wasp movie

Now let us celebrate the angry white male mass shooter: THE PUNISHER on Netflix

Come anticipate animated Miles Morales in SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE with me
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse
So, _Spider-Man_ then...
Doc Ock loves you, Spider-Man fans
Spider-Man 3 anticipation begins...now
What will happen in Spider-Man 3
NEW Spider-Man 3 Trailer
https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=57&threadid=1828
paul-bon victor uncredited cameo spider-man 3
Spider-Man 4 -- whether you like it or not
Spider-Man 4 (reboot thread) -- aka The Amazing Spider-Man
Anticipating Spider-Man: Homecoming (and then presumably Spider-Man: Prom)

Captain Marvel (2019), dir. Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck

Hulu's Non-Gritty Animated Marvel Universe: Pick Your Poison

Od's Blood! Hath ILE no thread for anticipation of THOR 4? Verily?

We got third Ant-Man movie

come anticipate scarjo as black widow in BLACK WIDOW, marvel studios' movie about black widow starring black widow

We got lots of threads.

Versus, say, Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks, which are doing plotlines I've seen countless times before in other Star Treks, but are somehow still pretty fresh and fun.

GOTG3 has the best Adrian Belew reference in the Marvel Universe, for this I give it many thanks.

X-Men '97 is super fun

I wasn't even a fan of the 90s show back then (and almost every boy I knew was!) but I'm enjoying this too

Just announced that Julia Garner will play the/a Silver Surfer, which rules.

Oh, right on. I have been 100% 'no notes' about the Fantastic Four casting thus far.

Yeah, the casting has been great so far. Very interested to see if they can stick the landing with the Dr. Doom casting.

xpost And I'm sure the entire open-minded and inclusive fan community will be completely onboard with this casting decision.............

the/a Silver Surfer, which rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dlYOD1_WU4

X-Men ‘97’s latest episode: HOLY SMOKES!!

I am very close to crowing this the best MCU product.