Netflix's Umbrella Academy, adapted by Steve Blackman from a comic book written by Gerald Way and drawn by Gabriel Bá

Yeah if you got that far, it's likely not worth diving back in. I will say that they fixed a good amount of the nonsensical unnecessary suffering in the second season (although they did replace bits of it with new unnecessary suffering, lol) but they do a lot more with the characters and their interactions that makes their eventual coming together feel a good bit more earned.

Always kind of wished that the showrunner was also my favorite C-tier WWE wrestler: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Blackman

oh the other s1 killer for me: I really really hated the Mary J Blige / Cameron Britton assassins, super cringe

Oh I loved them both

even though the basic plot points of both seasons were pretty similar, I also liked season 2 way more than season 1 - better character work, funnier and more action-packed. I really like the kid who plays Five and yes, the Klaus/Ben sideshow rules.

the ending of s2 with emo ben cracked me up - looks like they ended up in a timeline where mcr exists.

The siblings functioned much more like a family than a group of similarly-aged people who just wanted to be dicks towards each other in s2; I also felt they all functioned better as individual characters in s2 and had much more interesting things to present to the viewer than they did in s1. I also felt the casting played into the setting really, really well and allowed a lot of shading to the experiences of Diego and Alison that, as far as I know, weren't really present in the source material. (I'd say Vanya as well but her whole deal could have come directly from the comics, I'm not sure.)

Also Kate Walsh is great in this

I'll be back later

Okay okay but if there's any thread that suits paternal neglect, right?

DJP otm about the suffering, everyone in the first season might as well have nametags that say "I dealt with a profoundly unpleasant upbringing by <fucking off to the moon for 4 years / becoming Batman / destroying trust in the life I created / getting fucked up on literally anything to hand / time-travelling past where I had to deal with it / dying horribly / pushing it ALL DOWN INSIDE>"

Nah I got halfway through Ep 9 and was like, I don't want to know how this ends.

I might actually suggest just skipping to the first episode of the new season and trying it? Assume anyone who doesn't show up is dead, but you don't have to watch them die. I mean don't feel you have to of course, but there are worse plans.

But yeah everyone otm that the second season is better - starting with the haircuts (except for No.5). Very slight spoiler: they split up for a lot of the second series, and when they get back together, Klaus asks "I know this is impossible, did we all get sexier?" - and they did (except for No.5), just by being more comfortable in their roles!. Also Tom Hooper in season 2 is a delight.

I really like that they're all basically different genres, and I like the buzz and crackle when they turn up and interfere with each other's business - it feels like a family.

I do need to watch Doom Patrol at some point, but I cannot imagine that it will improve on the comic book to the same extent as this has (because that would cause the singularity)

Also lol from 2018: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37G-tnBrsd4

I could watch Robert Sheehan being Klaus for like 10 seasons, he is the best.

Gerard has a welcome and positive update:

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cbs1XLRuVfz/?utm_medium=share_sheet

When I get a minute I'll actually catch up with the fourth season, but good work here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXJjW4atK3A

omg their dance to Cher was *chefs kiss*

those 2 aside i’m finding this season less engaging than previous, but only slightly. and i haven’t seen it all yet. everyone just seems petulant.

I haven’t seen it yet but the ending has been getting terrible reviews :/

Yeah, I heard similar and dragged my heels, but honestly the series up until the last episode is pretty good - a lot of the cast bouncing off each other, the family gets a new member (the van), it was maybe as good as it's ever been?

(er, I'm not going to put up the hidden tag, this aired two months ago)

The ending for the kids makes a lot of sense - they have indeed been responsible for most of the apocalypses, the show never felt like the hurricane was going to reassemble the barn there. The parents, though, that was a big loud fart of an ending.