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They're also very witty

Lamont Dozier Dream House (Deflatormouse), Monday, 7 December 2020 09:59 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Is it controversial to say that Jefferson Starship is better than Jefferson Airplane? Like quite a bit better? Because I think that's where I'm at currently.

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:36 (three years ago) link

Haha I actually think it could be

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link

Have tried to find my way into the Airplane over and again, idgi

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:39 (three years ago) link

Every JS single I've heard during the Ford-Carter years has depressed me, i.e. please shoot them before I shoot mysel.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:44 (three years ago) link

See? JS shot the f.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link

having had that same reaction but then never hearing it ever again (they just kind of vanished?) makes me perversely curious

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:50 (three years ago) link

Highly controversial. Which JS albums are you listening to, OL?

Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:57 (three years ago) link

if u really wanna go for the controversial, you should remove that Jefferson from your Starship

Looking for Cape Penis house (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link

Have tried to find my way into the Airplane over and again, idgi

― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII)

at least you know you can always find your way back to the JS

Josefa, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 03:58 (three years ago) link

I don't really believe it but I'm into the energy of the take

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 04:09 (three years ago) link

Look to the summer of '75
The whole world is gonna come alive

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link

Red Octopus is an all-time classic imo and I'd rate it above the individual Airplane records I know.

They sold me a dream of Christmas (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 04:48 (three years ago) link

Jane is a really masterpiece of AOR

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link

I'm going purely on singles here. JA singles...yeah, they just don't do much for me. JS has a more pseudo-prog + AM gold vibe that I can firmly get behind. 'Miracles'! 'With Your Love'! 'Count on Me'! 'Jane'! Hell, I'll even throw the Balin solo singles in there. 'FEED YOUR HEAD'? No thanks, Grace. I'll feed my mid-'70s coke habit instead, if you don't mind.

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 05:02 (three years ago) link

(I guess, tbf, when I say Balin singles I'm really just talking about 'Hearts' here but I hold firm on my position nonetheless.)

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 05:09 (three years ago) link

Fair enough, though JA weren’t really a singles band.

Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 05:11 (three years ago) link

Volunteers is really sick, Jorma rules

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link

Gorillaz is more influential and has better songs than Blur.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 06:23 (three years ago) link

l feel like neither one is influential?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 07:10 (three years ago) link

this could have been on Fire Of Unknown Origins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4BxmjFuF_0

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

dipping my toes in here it's the singles that are the roughest go tbh

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah, I love "St. Charles".

They sold me a dream of Christmas (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 14:56 (three years ago) link

Jefferson Starship was a needed clean-up and reboot after the chaos and disorder of the Airplane's Bark and Long John Silver. The real test is, what do you think of Hot Tuna?

I've heard all the Blur albums, both by The Good The Bad and The Queen, and even the Albarn solo album, yet never felt a need to check out Gorillaz besides seeing a couple of videos. Something about "we're actually cartoon characters" clicks a big "NOPE" switch in my head.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:03 (three years ago) link

I think I like all the big hits from the entire Jefferson Airplane/Jefferson Starship/Starship continuum. I like their singers' voices.

They sold me a dream of Christmas (Sund4r), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:04 (three years ago) link

I think I like all the big hits from the entire Jefferson Airplane/Jefferson Starship/Starship continuum. I like their singers' voices.

I can't remember a single one other than "Somebody to Love" and "We Built This City." They might be the big 60s/70s band that's disappeared from the cultural landscape most completely.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:12 (three years ago) link

'White Rabbit'!

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:13 (three years ago) link

you don't remember White Rabbit?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

Jane?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

for years I remembered "Find Your Way Back" as a great single by Boston

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:15 (three years ago) link

who can forget their appearance as a tiny hologram band in the star wars holiday special

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

Most people nowadays probably think of 'Jane' as 'Theme from Wet Hot American Summer'.

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

xpost lol, that was actually precisely what prompted this revive, as I finally watched that POS for the first time last night. Their song was pretty good! And I'd been listening to '70s Billboard hits of late and those JS songs were pretty good!

Wet Pretzels and Other Soggy Snacks (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

Never heard JS but, for me, JA are the ultimate Band You've Tried To Get Into But Failed, er, band,

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:19 (three years ago) link

feel like White Rabbit from years of movies and documentaries is up there with Turn, Turn, Turn and by the Byrds and Purple Haze by Hendrix as musical shorthand for "The Sixties"

I can hear a narrator saying "... and in San Francisco, a new drug fueled hippie scene emerged in the Haight Ashbury neighborhood"

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:20 (three years ago) link

for years I remembered "Find Your Way Back" as a great single by Boston

me too!

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:21 (three years ago) link

"Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" was a #1 single in the US and UK! Don't remember a thing about it.

why can't they dance to Holdsworth? (Matt #2), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link

Come on, even I know that one.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

JA are fucking awesome but nobody ever talks about them so I don’t see how not caring about them in controversial?

brimstead, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:08 (three years ago) link

The Outfield invented Emo

Bill Bruford's drumbeat for "South Side of the Sky": proto-dubstep? (Prefecture), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link

"Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" was a #1 single in the US and UK! Don't remember a thing about it.

A perfect example; when I read this post, my immediate thought wasn't "Oh yeah, that song!" it was "Wait, that was them?" JA/JS were almost totally anonymous, stylistically speaking.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

to date the only jefferson starship song i've heard is the one in the star wars holiday special

i have also never managed to get into jefferson airplane but i wouldn't call them anonymous. starship sans jefferson were def anonymous, they were designed that way

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

"nothing's gonna stop us now" is sick as hell; "we built this city" is not a good song but i have a weird affection for its tastelessness at this point in my life

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

I only just now disovered that cursed earworm lyric "knee deep in the hoopla" is also the name of that album

early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

I like "We Built This City" a lot (though ftr, that's Starship)

Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

it was boss when the Bucs drafted Vinny Testaverde in '87 & the local radio played "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now". love that boomer optimism.

All cars are bad (Euler), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

From the Wiki:

In June 1984, Paul Kantner, the last remaining founding member of Jefferson Airplane, left Jefferson Starship. In October 1984, Kantner took legal action over the Jefferson Starship name against his former bandmates.

The band briefly performed as "Starship Jefferson" while legal proceedings occurred, before settling on the shortened name "Starship".

Starship Jefferson!

Bill Bruford's drumbeat for "South Side of the Sky": proto-dubstep? (Prefecture), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

Nick Cave is turning into Norman Tebbit, looks-wise at least

why can't they dance to Holdsworth? (Matt #2), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link


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