Best Black Sabbath Album

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I think it stands a good chance.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 9 April 2007 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

"Neon Knights" is one of the top 10 Sabbath cuts. maybe even top 5.

TS: Ozzy reunion Sabbath vs Dio reunion Sabbath

I was just thinking about this the other day as I was debating getting tix to Heaven and Hell -- despite them being one of my all-time favorite bands, I never saw any of the Ozzy reunion tours. but I didn't really regret it. I never felt like sitting in bad outdoor seats and sitting through hours of shitty Ozz-fest bands. (I saw "We Sold Our Soul For Rock and Roll" in the theater though and that was pretty cool.) But this Dio thing has me weirdly excited. I like the idea that the setlist of necessity is going to be all this relatively underexposed material.

― Stormy Davis, Monday, 9 April 2007 02:16 (seventeen years ago) link

agreed about the ozzfest shit. the dio show would bring more diehard/older metal fans out of the woodwork, much more fun.

if this were about album covers i'd pick

http://www.black-sabbath.de/lyrics/te.jpg

― am0n, Monday, 9 April 2007 02:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I would have LOVED to participate in this discussion in the mid 80s, when I had ALL Sabbath albums and was a HUGE fan. I would like to participate now, but my memory is not cooperating. I find that over 20 years later, I have a hard time distinguishing these albums clearly in my memory. I think that Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was my favorite for the longest period of time, but I can't be sure.

― professor ganson, Monday, 9 April 2007 03:25 (seventeen years ago) link

What is your favourite now?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Monday, 9 April 2007 16:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't have a favorite right now. I unloaded all their albums about 20 years ago and haven't replaced them since. Most are available for $5 at my local shop, so I don't have a good excuse.

― professor ganson, Monday, 9 April 2007 22:29 (seventeen years ago) link

Sounds like a good deal!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 11:39 (seventeen years ago) link

I've got the entire black box ripped to a dvd, popping that in now...

― Edward III, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

btw the black box is one of the greatest remastering jobs evah, even for a band that sounded great on cassette blasting through 4" speakers anyway.

― Edward III, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Supernaut is just the perfect song.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

1000 Homo DJs did a great cover! (and that's about all they did)

― Jeff Treppel, Tuesday, 10 April 2007 23:13 (seventeen years ago) link

That is a great cover!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 20:31 (seventeen years ago) link

so I gave the first 6 albs a spin. aside from paranoid they're spotty listens. I usually prefer homebaked sabbath comps.

black sabbath - always better than I remember, but it's offset by the rampant wanking (theirs, not mine).

paranoid - the a side is perfection. even the filler is great. sabbath fans probably get sick of this one, but that may be physically impossible for me. still my fave, if only for the straight-ahead production job.

master of reality - great songs, but the primitive treatments on ozzy's vocals kill my buzz. incidentally the shortest of the first 6 (in length, not height).

vol 4 - more great songs, maybe the most consistent besides paranoid, but iommi's tone is a little thin and buzzy. or thin and king buzzo.

sabbath bloody sabbath - the title track is fantastic, one of their best. the rest ain't too shabby, either. gives vol 4 a run for its money. but who the fuck invited wakeman to the party? goddamned knob twiddler.

sabotage - their wackiest album? most underrated? I dunno, I like it.

ranked? pointless, it would look like this
1. paranoid
2. black sabbath / master of reality / vol 4 / sabbath bloody sabbath / sabotage

― Edward III, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 21:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Just picked up the "Dio Years" comp. Good sound, considering Mob Rules and Heaven and Hell haven't been remastered. I wish they had just put out a four disc box set as opposed to cull "hits". Haven't gotten to the new tracks yet.

― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 22:02 (seventeen years ago) link

They haven't been remastered? Strange. I guess Sharon doesn't want them out since Ozzy isn't on them.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 April 2007 11:56 (seventeen years ago) link

The tunes from those albums are remastered on this thing, I didn't mean to be unclear. Geezer was really thumping some awesome bass in '80/'81 and that fact comes through loud and clear. This disc really kicks ass.

― Bill Magill, Thursday, 12 April 2007 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

I just prefer Sabbath being doom really. It doesn't help that I've never really liked the dio type rawk voice.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 April 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I should give them a go though.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 April 2007 16:35 (seventeen years ago) link

I voted for "Paranoid", has to be, really

― Tom D., Thursday, 12 April 2007 16:36 (seventeen years ago) link

i would have voted master of reality

volume 4 is nipping at its heels though

― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 April 2007 16:38 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, i just realised it's still open for voting. so yeah, master of reality baby

― Charlie Howard, Thursday, 12 April 2007 16:39 (seventeen years ago) link

My big sister had "Vol. 4", so that's the only one I heard when I was growing up, so that's a close second to "Paranoid"

― Tom D., Thursday, 12 April 2007 16:40 (seventeen years ago) link

Last chance for voting.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 April 2007 21:37 (seventeen years ago) link

As I said before, #4 has "Changes" on it. Thuse it's #4.

― Geir Hongro, Thursday, 12 April 2007 22:22 (seventeen years ago) link

"Changes" is probably my least favorite Black Sabbath song. Same with "Goodbye to Romance" in Ozzy's solo career. Just schmaltzy dreck. Ozzy's vocal performances are just awful on those songs. I normally don't mind ballads, but those are the pits.

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 12 April 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

(I even like "Mama I'm Coming Home"!)

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 12 April 2007 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Vol 4 wins which is odd since I voted for that one...

― NYCNative, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

ILM has spoken and not as close as I thought it would be!

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:03 (seventeen years ago) link

Start a poll for the best Ozzy-less Sabbath record next since it's obvious that Ozzy is Sabbath as far as ILM is concerned.

― NYCNative, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:05 (seventeen years ago) link

i love dio but i couldn't really vote for any of his over vol 4

― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:06 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm surprised "I have no taste and don't like Black Sabbath" got so many votes. Seems sort of pointless to vote in the poll for a band you don't like, doesn't it?

― Jeff Treppel, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Start a poll for the best Ozzy-less Sabbath record next since it's obvious that Ozzy is Sabbath as far as ILM is concerned.

Feel free to do so. I don't wanna get pulled up for making too many polls

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:12 (seventeen years ago) link

i really expected s/t to come in 2nd, after volume 4.

― ian, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I thought paranoid would beat it and it would be 3rd. I didn't know who would win between Vol IV and Paranoid though.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:37 (seventeen years ago) link

None of them, I don't like Black Sabbath 6

inexcusable.

― latebloomer, Thursday, 12 April 2007 23:45 (seventeen years ago) link

I put that in because there's always people who say "I don't like any of them". But I didn't think so many would vote that.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link

Wonder if the 6 will own up?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:05 (seventeen years ago) link

SHOW YOURSELVES!

― Jeff Treppel, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:07 (seventeen years ago) link

103 votes 6 of those didn't like the band.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:15 (seventeen years ago) link

So that's 97 people to form a lynch mob, works for me.

(I don't actually care, it's just fun to overreact)

― Jeff Treppel, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:20 (seventeen years ago) link

too late to vote: Master Of Reality

― Steve Shasta, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:26 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm just amazed 100+ voted. Kinda justifies having the poll. Lets see if http://www.ilxor.com:8080/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=57141#unread does as well

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:43 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm not sure what makes the six stupider - that they voted in a thread about a band they don't like or that they don't like Sabbath.

― NYCNative, Friday, 13 April 2007 00:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting poll. I remember really loving vol IV back in the day, and now this makes me want to pick it up again. I'm surprised that the album I remember liking best (Sabbath Bloody Sabbath) is last among the plausible options. I wonder what I liked about it?

― professor ganson, Friday, 13 April 2007 01:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Like with Led Zep, the 1st 6 albums are all essential.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 13 April 2007 01:57 (seventeen years ago) link

But I'm glad Vol IV won.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 13 April 2007 02:39 (seventeen years ago) link

8080

― pretzel walrus, Friday, 13 April 2007 03:28 (seventeen years ago) link

Sabbath Bloody Sabbath > Sabotage, too.

― ian, Friday, 13 April 2007 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I wonder who the silent 6 are ;)

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Friday, 13 April 2007 10:36 (seventeen years ago) link

Might have been me, but I find Black Sabbath not too bad and chose to vote for the 4th instead :)

― Geir Hongro, Friday, 13 April 2007 10:43 (seventeen years ago) link

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