first pubsecond barthird clubend of night russian bar
― gareth (gareth), Sunday, 2 February 2003 21:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― brg30 (brg30), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
Martin is also kind of right, though too didactic, about the building. As I said earlier, a pub cannot be tucked away upstairs or in the basement. It must dominate the ground floor of the building (inc. frontage). Though of course, many bars can also do this, and still not be pubs.
Irish pubs can be weird - the real ones in crappy little towns. They often don't fulfill the normal look of a pub from the outside, especially if they are in a modern building. That one where he gets beaten up in 'I Went Down', for example.
― N. (nickdastoor), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
This points to the difference between U.S. usage and British. As brg30 says, it's a pub if it has "pub" in the title, otherwise not. The title is to connote "Britain," which is considered high-class but in a stolid way, so pubs are upscale in that they're clean and serve big burgers and designer beers, but they're glamourless. U.S. bars are carpetless to accommodate the spillage of blood and barf.
So, what's better, "pub rock" or "bar band"?
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 3 February 2003 02:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
Roogalator vs. Blueshammer: FITE
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 3 February 2003 02:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 February 2003 02:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 3 February 2003 02:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 3 February 2003 03:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 3 February 2003 04:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
A 'vibe' eh? Interesting. All Bar One is definitely ruled out then.
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 3 February 2003 04:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mary (Mary), Monday, 3 February 2003 05:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 3 February 2003 05:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 3 February 2003 05:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
That is all.
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 3 February 2003 05:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Hunter (Hunter), Monday, 3 February 2003 05:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
I expect pubs to sell cider, real ale and stout. I expect bars to sell brightly coloured synthetic alcopops.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 3 February 2003 10:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
Much of this will change too when the licencing laws change. Student bars are bars by the above definition because that is how the define themselves (though they would have more physically in common some times with pubs).
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 3 February 2003 10:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 3 February 2003 10:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 3 February 2003 10:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
English pubs tend to be more loungey than Irish ones in my experience.
― Ronan (Ronan), Monday, 3 February 2003 10:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
Pete this thread is a wake-up call to those of us who have neglected the publog. (ie everyone but you Tim and Starry)
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
Man, I love that pub and I ain't been there in two years nearly. I need to go back.
BTW, pub = The Charles Bradlaugh in Northampton.
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
Booths are fantastic for small groups - you can sit and scheme cosily surrounded by the mighty oak (or facsimile thereof). Useless for more than about 5 people though.
The Shakespeare at Victoria Station used to have a CAVE underneath with booths (I think it was the shakespeare).
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― smee (smee), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
If only that were still the case.
― RickyT (RickyT), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
ie, there is no difference
― Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Monday, 3 February 2003 11:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― alext (alext), Monday, 3 February 2003 12:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 3 February 2003 13:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
End of debate.
*this threshold may go up in central London.**unless it's happy hour or student night or some bollocks.
― dog latin, Monday, 3 February 2003 13:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
oh i dunno.
― Fuzzy (Fuzzy), Monday, 3 February 2003 13:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Monday, 3 February 2003 13:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 3 February 2003 13:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Monday, 3 February 2003 13:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
i think what suzy calls "feminised pubs" are the cursed middle here viz ALL BAR ONE (which is fine for eg office xmas lunch)
― mark s (mark s), Monday, 3 February 2003 13:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
The other think they all have in common is the light wood - so they could be called pined & wined pubs.
― Pete (Pete), Monday, 3 February 2003 14:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gareth (gareth), Monday, 3 February 2003 14:14 (twenty-one years ago) link