Nick Mason’s drumming style is economical and it rules:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTlpFr3jd4s
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:11 (three years ago) link
I guess there’s a tendency to equate quality drumming with funkiness.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link
Nick Mason's a great drummer.
What makes him great iyo?
― actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link
He's somewhat Ringo-esque in that he tends to play exactly what the song calls for. It's also worth hearing him in a live setting – I think he does a fabulous job in the Pompeii version of 'Echoes', for instance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtJgNvwmsRA
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:32 (three years ago) link
as many ppl have expressed in the pink floyd rules thread, he’s not the most mind blowing drummer in the world but he is the exact right drummer for pink floyd
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link
unperson overstates the incompetency of the dead but also whatever man this isn’t the defend the grateful dead thread
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link
unperson overstates the incompetency of the dead
I didn't even mention the fact that they had four singers, none of whom could sing.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:41 (three years ago) link
At this point I can't tell whether being a Dead fan or a Dead hater is the more controversial stance. I, for one, am lukewarm.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:42 (three years ago) link
Minimal but effective. Serves the song. Swings.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:42 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I am wondering if there are any uncontroversial opinions about the grateful dead xp
― Deflatormouse, Saturday, 5 December 2020 02:48 (three years ago) link
Grateful Dud amirite
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link
https://legofriends.fandom.com/wiki/The_Grateful_Dud
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link
things were better when the dad rock legends were generally considered to be the enemy
Why?
― Master of Treacle, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:21 (three years ago) link
xxp Pink Floyd are a singular group and Nick Mason's drumming defies qualifiers like "great", "serviceable" or "incompetent" IMO.
― Deflatormouse, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:24 (three years ago) link
its funny how bad some drummers were back in the British Invasion days. one time I listened to the second Nazz album just focusing on the drums and couldn't help but notice the dude fucking up repeatedly. looked him up and it turns out he played on a record with Mitchell Froom many years later
― frogbs, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:29 (three years ago) link
xps whoever edited that 'Remember a Day' video made sure you don't get to see Richard Wright sing at all, not even for a fucking second. What an ass.
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:34 (three years ago) link
I really liked John Oswald’s 1994/1995 albums that comprised Grayfolded - Transitive Axis and Mirror Ashes - where he built, layered, and "folded" over 100 versions of The Dead’s “Dark Star” to produce two large recomposed versions, each about one hour long― Dan S, Friday, December 4, 2020 5:57 PM
― Dan S, Friday, December 4, 2020 5:57 PM
Thanks for this mention. Not something we knew about. Certainly not life changing, but enjoying it in the moment right now.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:35 (three years ago) link
... nazz were from philly
xp
― budo jeru, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:36 (three years ago) link
On the early stuff his playing is impressionistic and intuitive, Syd Barrett's songs have a quality of someone's first attempts at songwriting and their playing is tentative and exploratory (apart from Waters maybe) but very stiff. The stiffness, not the out-ness, is what makes it "weird" for me, and maybe also special.
David Gilmore is a much more fluid player and there's a smoothing out of Nick Mason's stiffness over a few albums, but not entirely and I feel like it follows the same basic template.
The thing about PF is you can really hear the effort they're making to match their ambitions. I'm always listening to that space between their abilities and their ambition, can't help it really. Probably until Pompeii or DSoTM where it feels like they've totally mastered their own idiom.
― Deflatormouse, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link
super otm
― budo jeru, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:41 (three years ago) link
xps
I still don't like much of this music and it was more fun to hate when it felt like we were taking down The Man together
for an edgelord thread this is really rather polite now eh
― Left, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:44 (three years ago) link
all music is shit. bastards like it
This thread was Ross’s great contribution before he disappeared.
― wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link
dang
― budo jeru, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:52 (three years ago) link
From what we knew of him, I'd like to think he'd be very satisfied with that knowledge. Hope he's well, wherever he is.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:54 (three years ago) link
Mouse otm
― pomenitul, Saturday, 5 December 2020 03:59 (three years ago) link
I always get the Nazz and the Move mixed up in my head
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 December 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link
great post deflatormouse
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 December 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link
Now listening to the Pink Floyd Empire Pool `74 show and it. . . well, rules.
I mean, I like the Dead a lot; maybe even love some of their recordings. But Pink Floyd —on this recording— is clearly better than the Dead ever were.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 5 December 2020 04:06 (three years ago) link
Remember a Day does have a classic drum part; unfortunately, it was played on the record by producer Norman Smith.
However, Nick Mason did compose and record The Grand Vizier's Garden Party, the most clever quasi-drum solo in rock history.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 5 December 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link
the dead have no fans in the UK afaict
There's one on ILX. But that's about it. For the UK. Why are people always spelling Dave Gilmour's name wrong?
― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 December 2020 10:16 (three years ago) link
I recall the Dead playing a couple of nights at Wembley Arena (capacity 10k) back in the late 80s, might have been full of expat Americans/people who'd travelled from elsewhere in the UK though.
― facebook post with 12 'likes' does not count as peer-reviewed research (Matt #2), Saturday, 5 December 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link
mason doesn't play on Remember a Day i thought
― buzza, Saturday, 5 December 2020 11:39 (three years ago) link
as someone mentioned before me lolalso this is a tell "This thread was Ross’s great contribution before he disappeared.
― wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp)"
― buzza, Saturday, 5 December 2020 11:41 (three years ago) link
I haven't listened to PF since I was a teen and I just gamely listened to 3 minutes of "Echoes" live an Pompeii and it was absolutely the biggest load of crap I've ever heard
― flamboyant goon tie included, Saturday, 5 December 2020 12:59 (three years ago) link
that rules
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 December 2020 13:07 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I really don't get the love for PF around these parts.
― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Saturday, 5 December 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link
Pink Floyd to me is one of the greatest mismatches ever between my expectations based their description prior to hearing them and the reality of how much I dislike actually hearing them. And I’ve really tried over the years.
― joygoat, Saturday, 5 December 2020 13:47 (three years ago) link
You gotta listen to the right three minutes of Echoes at Pompeii.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 5 December 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link
The only bad song Pink Floyd released between 1967 and 1977 was Biding My Time on Relics. Money is borderline (both blues songs). I love all the rest, even the twee Wright songs, the instrumentals on Ummagumma, the improvisations on More, Waters' folk songs, Crumbling Land, Absolutely Curtains, Shine On part IX, both parts of Pigs on the Wing.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:01 (three years ago) link
I think Pink Floyd are OK.
― actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:02 (three years ago) link
I like the Floyd's ambient drift and the serene blankness of the vocals post Sydney. Rarely feel drawn to listen to them and Rodge is an obnoxious twat, obv. But they have their moments.
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link
I quite like "Biding My Time" <---- controversial music opinion. I hate "If", "St Tropez" and "Free Four". All Waters' songs, of course.
― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link
Sure I've done this story before but I used to live in a flat underneath some hippy who had side one of Meddle on a loop, would often drift off to sleep and wake up with the bass line of "Fearless" rumbling thru the ceiling. Still fucking love that song.
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link
yeah "Biding My Time" is great, wtf
― All cars are bad (Euler), Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link
“st. tropez” is silly but charming, imo.
idk much about technical drumming proficiency but i was listening to animals the other day and forgot how great the rhythm section sounds throughout. there are some grooves on that record.
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
I believe Roger Waters didn't play much bass on that album?
― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:27 (three years ago) link
he plays on “dogs” but not “pigs” or “sheep,” which, uh, are the ones that groove
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:37 (three years ago) link
Far too serious to groove
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:39 (three years ago) link
he sounds great doing the baas at the beginning of “sheep” tho
― la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Saturday, 5 December 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link