This title format that drives me bonkers - Big Little Lies etc.

There's something so annoyingly precious/faux mysterious about it. How did it start?

when a daddy twee loves a mummy twee very much

the king of the format:

https://i.redd.it/939rdv2i3pc21.jpg

haha

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMWZmMGNjZGItNWJhNi00Y2U1LTk2YjItY2U2N2ZlODA0MmZiXkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTIwMzA3NDcx._V1_.jpg

Oh God yes I can't stand this formulation nor differentiate them

Little Big Women is an interesting one though as it works in a way that predates the current craze. Like, it could be both a pun on both Little Women and Little Big Man.

Did DIRTY PRETTY THINGS (2002) kick it off more recently?

Yeah thats what i thought of immediately

Pretty Little Liars

P.Y.T.

Pretty Little Thing is an online clothes retailer

Dirty Sexy Money

pretty tiny little fire things

Those are called matches, iirc.

yes it's a remake of the Little Match Girl

I suppose the blame might plausibly lie with Fleetwood Mac and their sweet little lies

P.Y.T.

― Vinnie, Monday, 11 January 2021 23:42 (yesterday)

Of course!

why are little and big so essential to this weird phenomenon?

Curb Your Enthusiasm Apathy

xp is it linked to :

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/13/sentence-order-adjectives-rule-elements-of-eloquence-dictionary

Big little lies is the worst of these, maybe the worst title for anything

does Very Bad Things (1998) count as one of these?

Not the same thing but related is the kind of stupid gibberish titles that bond films and oasis albums have like definitely maybe, don’t believe the truth, the forgetting of memory, if tomorrow was yesterday

Never Maybe Sometimes Always Things

I guess Bond titles like 'Live And Let Die' and 'You Only Live Twice' are the precursor to 70s detective show episode titles like 'Eat, Drink and Be Buried' (from the first series of Ironside) which have a similar precious/sinister thing as the 'pretty little X' stuff?

Like in force on the case, there was an ep called like “sing a song of sixpence, a pocket full of murder”

wins is mainly thinking, I infer, about the post-Fleming Bond word salad titles imo: Tomorrow Never Dies*, The World Is Not Enough, Quantum Of Solace, No Time To Die

* even more Oasis-like because it came from someone misreading a fax: the unused Pulp theme was still released as Tomorrow Never Lies

btw we tried to watch Tiny Pretty Things last night and it was so poorly written and acted we turned it off after 15 minutes, and we never stop watching anything no matter how dumb it is.

when i was a little kid watching all those bond movies on cable i often wasnt familiar with the idioms and familiar phrases those titles were tweaking and just internalized them at face value - it wasnt until years later that really dawned on me how many of them are complete nonsense

Fine Young Cannibals?

LittleBigPlanet

Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy

Little Big League

I just remembered that's both a movie and a band.

littleBIGMAN

That hasn’t been posted yet?

Meaty Beaty Big and Bouncy

John Crowley, Little, Big
Arundhati Roy, The God of Small Things
Little Big Town (band)
Terry Pratchett, Small Gods

Oh great, HBO has a show coming just called "The Little Things". I'm going to boycott it.

Never Rarely Sometimes Always seems like a questionable title, but the scene where you find out what it refers to is the emotional high point of the film

Before I saw that movie I assumed the title referred to survey options.

I just came to post about my ambivalence to the second season of Big Little Lies and then I realized I’d forgotten the thread theme, so anyway.

Grateful Dead - Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodleloo

Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close

Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close

Extremely Loud & Incredibly Close

thanks Zing

https://offtheshelf.com/app/uploads/2016/09/A-Million-Little-Pieces.jpg

A Million Little Pieces

https://i.watch.cbc.ca/p/categoryThumbnails/8ff393e7-610d-4d42-b078-ff1049045e2d.jpg?impolicy=poster3x&imwidth=412

fuck sake.

there's a new show called Apple Never Falls

is it on Apple TV?

I thought half of those "House Of" titles were made up! But they all seem genuine.

House of Words and Rivers
House of Mist and Memories
House of Clocks and Eagles
House of Ice and Conjury

Could do this all day really.

I hate the name Everything Everywhere All At Once, fwiw, which also makes me think of the two JSF novel titles I also hate: Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, and Everything Is Illuminated.

Oh I guess two of those were addressed above

it makes me think of Everything, All At Once, Forever, because I am a Indie

I can go to the amnesty bookshop at any given time & find like 5 random novels that do the flaubert’s parrot/wittgenstein’s mistress thing: Adorno’s dildo, Hitler’s cufflinks, Proust’s GameBoy &c

Remarkably Bright Creatures

haha just realized someone posted that one upthread but got the title was wrong, hence I didn't find it in ctrl f

https://images-us.bookshop.org/ingram/9780143127550.jpg?height=500&v=v2-a7d1aa0651c054931f75e188866634b8

and yet, and yet

Now playing at IFC Center:

Do Not Expect Much From The End Of The World
The Taste Of Things

Everywhere is a big one too

Little Altars Everywhere
Everywhere You Don't Belong
The Girl From Everywhere
Everywhere and Every Way
Everywhere I Look

I'm trying to put my finger on what it is that's so bad about these titles, it's like they have this profound genericness and forced ambiguity. The Thing of Objects. Everyone Watches When Nothing Happens. Sort of Raymond Carverish but with no emotion.

Everyone Worth Knowing
Everyone Brave is Forgiven
Everyone Who Can Forgive Me Is Dead
The Opposite of Everyone
Everyone I Kissed Since You Got Famous
Everyone Dies Famous in a Small Town
Everyone But Myself
Everyone Knows You Go Home

SMALL WORDS IN BIG LETTERS

The tone is slightly childlike, full of wonderment and openness, could be about literally anything (or "Everything")

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4a/Everything_Must_Go_Poster.jpg (apparently based on a Raymond Carver story of a different name, Why Don't You Dance?)

Goodnight Nobody
Nobody is Ever Missing
If Nobody Speaks Of Remarkable Things
Nobody, Somebody, Anybody
Nobody's Magic
Nobody Knows But You
The Nobodies Album
The Nobody People

All the Light We Cannot See
All the Bright Places
All the Dangerous Things
All the Stars and Teeth
All the Birds in the Sky
All the Lovers in the Night
All the Little Raindrops
All the Broken Places
All the Breaking Waves
All the Pretty Horses, Young Dudes, President's Men, King's Men etc.

If Wayne Coyne ever wrote a novel (assuming he hasn't) it would most likely have Everything in the title, also some reference to wildlife - possibly, if not probably, birds.

I'm trying to put my finger on what it is that's so bad about these titles, it's like they have this profound genericness and forced ambiguity. The Thing of Objects. Everyone Watches When Nothing Happens. Sort of Raymond Carverish but with no emotion.

― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 25 March 2024 20:44 (nineteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think it's annoying because it's attempting to make a connection between the small/specific/everyday and the infinite/cosmic/transcendent in a way that supposed to be profound, but it just ends up sounding banal most of the time? A bit like the 'dancing plastic bag' stuff from American Beauty

otm

they are exactly the opposite of a title as great as the ipcress file, they do nothing and intrigue the least interesting ppl

It’s an instant no from me, when I think about someone presumably labouring for a long time to produce a work of art & then having to come up with a title for it that will make anyone ever at all in the big little world want to read it, & then what they come up with is essential “idk little everywheres all around or whatever”, I just think whoever makes that choice simply cannot have possibly written a good book

agreed

Nothing About It Is Interesting

Every Book I Never Read

Soref otm

I think they work by being vague but also familiar, so that you have the feeling that you've heard enough good things already to warrant the purchase. "Oh yeah, Pretty Liars Everywhere, I think I've heard of that."

All Things Are Too Small serves as comment on the whole phenomenon

― Alba, Monday, 25 March 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Hilarious that Rothfeld, who made her name writing about modernist masterworks, allowed her book to fall into this format lol

Small Lights Lie Everywhere

All the Little Live Things a really good, devastating 1960's novel by Wallace Stegner

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— John Levenstein (@johnlevenstein) March 26, 2024

How did we make it this far without anyone mentioning Eat, Pray, Love

We should combine them
Eat all the big little lies I never told you, pray everywhere in the house of ivy and sorrow, love all at once

overly long ones are next, lets say fried green tomatoes at the whistlestop cafe as an exemplar

They combined the titles that’s crazy https://t.co/XhyCrw75qZ pic.twitter.com/tvvm7Px09o

— Nick Stellini (@StelliniTweets) March 26, 2024

All the

small wives

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1435452849i/90619.jpg

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Remember all the book covers that were just, like, shoes?

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/817iFfLhJ+L._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_FMwebp_.jpg

https://books.google.com/books/content?id=M86PhpoehBAC&pg=PP1&img=1&zoom=3&hl=en&sig=ACfU3U2B9KEeH3mVPMWU7HGtr5DdvQ0e8Q&w=1280

if James Herriot were writing today, his book would be called Little Big Animals

All Creatures are Small

Dirty Sexy Money (2007)

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1387741079i/18079552.jpg

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xp The ad for Dirty Sexy Money started with a bunch of random words on the screen, and they disappear one by one until only "dirty" "sexy" and "money" remain. Probably exactly the way creators and execs come up with these half-assed titles

I wonder if the title for Dirty Sexy Money was inspired by this British TV movie?

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTY5MjIxODk2MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTgwOTgyMQ@@._V1_FMjpg_UX1000_.jpg

Tell me lies, tell me Sweet Little Filthy Sexy Tiny Big Lies