Search and Destroy : New Order

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOoyPT6RoF4

So I bought the Power Corruption and Lies box set and it comes with this goofy documentary from 1984 where Tony Wilson is naked in his bath pontificating with a clothed Gillian Gilbert also soaking in the tub. A couple times you get a glimpse of Little Tony, so there’s that off my bucket list.

omgwtf

i must see this.

for. . . reasons.

I think it's this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPTa5HC2fTo

Who are the women in the gym talking with Gillian?

I think the woman with short cropped hair talking with Gillian is Liz Naylor, editor of City Fun zine.

I think the woman with short cropped hair talking with Gillian is Liz Naylor, editor of City Fun zine.

Ah, OK, so maybe the woman with the spiky hair is Cath Carroll then, seeing as she was both a member of the City Fun team and an artist on the Factory roster.

It's been eons since I just put on "Substance." I've grown so inured to nu-New Order that I'd totally forgotten what a pleasure their innocently rinky-dink early years really are.

stings cousin ruins everything he sings on and is why i liked him in joy division just using his twanger!

BTW there is an Easter egg on DVD 2 of the PCL box set. If you watch to the end of the 1983 Hacienda gig immediately after the entirety of “Video 586” plays with the original primitive computer graphics.

Transmissions, a weekly podcast series telling the story of Joy Division and New Order, is currently airing, narrated by Maxine Peake and set to feature guest stars including Bono, Liam Gallagher and Damon Albarn.

She's an actress who is usually generally pretty good in anything she's in but she really lays it on thick in this series and comes close to ruining it

I think her first big part was in Dinnerladies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEEmABjNkN8

To be fair, some of it is out of her control because the script she's reading is over the top:
"Two of the most influential bands. In. Music. History."

I wonder how much the band members had to do with that -- steering the project towards an exercise in myth building (like that Queen biopic from 2018)

The narrator of NewOrderStory was hilariously, consciously over the top, iirc. That was (looks it up) stage actress Jenny Seagrove.

Think I"m going to buy the 2nd volume of Stephen's memoirs this eve, looking forward to nerdy Oberheim stories.

Don't listen to Chris Coco or Mary Anne Hobbes if Maxine Peake bothers you. They're both much worse imo.

Reading Morris' latest book, thought this was kinda interesting:

“The legend that Factory lost money on every copy of ‘Blue Monday’ is a great myth, but sadly not true. Myths rarely are. If Factory actually lost 5p on every copy sold, as the story goes, they would have gone bust in a matter of months. Nobody is that daft, not even me. (Apparently, by the end of 31 May 1983 Blue Monday had sold 230,340 copies and had made £ 113,477.78 fact fans! It took a long time to discover that.)”

I never believed that such a huge global hit as Blue Monday lost money, Factory probably could have put it out in a gold leaf cover and still broke even in the short term. I bet Tony Tone was always telling his roster of bands they were making fuck all money.

He was always telling New Order they were the only ones making money but they needed to give it back to him to flush down another toilet elsewhere, iirc.

Did anybody see that New Order are/were holding a "Blue Monday" sale today, on their website?

10% off everything.

(I know)

Mark Refoy of Spiritualized/Slipstream etc. remembering one of the very first New Order gigs, plus photos etc. Great little post capturing the moment:

https://www.facebook.com/markrefoy/posts/10160631150412437

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4Gjycc5ejc

I've always liked that (mostly mimed?) clip. They all look like they are on different drugs.

tbh, i thought this revive was about hooky selling off more stuff.

^^ there is no end to this

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Be0AAOSwEdFhBArL/s-l400.jpg

what has Hook sold before and is selling now?

The YouTube description of that Procession says it's "a new edit of archive footage of New Order, recut and synced to their song Procession". I think it's fan made, not an official clip.

sic :

https://www.nme.com/news/music/peter-hook-is-selling-off-hundreds-of-new-order-artefacts-including-an-nme-award-2980239

Some amazing stuff for sale. Martin Hannett 7” reels!

Anyone who buys that Prophet-5 and expects it to be functional after 35 years in storage is in for a grievous disappointment.

a real New Order melodica https://bid.omegaauctions.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-301---new-order-cased-melodica-soprano/?lot=14685&so=0&st=&sto=0&au=45&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=48&pn=7&g=1

he's got two

Lawrence Wiener poster https://bid.omegaauctions.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-59---new-order-original-1987-substance-poster/?lot=14411&so=0&st=&sto=0&au=45&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=48&pn=2&g=1

Some of the stuff in there is utterly daft, and some of it is super awesome.

One of his last auctions had a bass amp, the same as the one in my garage.

Allowing for the "yeah, but that one was owned by Peter Hook", the opening bid price was surprisingly high.

i enjoyed looking at what was in "hooky's post-punk record collection(s)"

Destroy these imo.

+1 to "State of the Nation"

whoah, The Village? No way.

"Music Complete" is possibly top five, and easily my fav 'reunion' album. (ie "Get Ready" onwards)

whoah, The Village? No way.

― dan selzer,

too dopey

Vicious Streak is a great song. I really like Draculas Castle as well, but that ones harder to defend than Vicious Streak. You're mostly right, but also wrong. I'd also place the blame for Subculture remix on John Robie, so if you want to start calling out which New Order remixes are shit, that's going to be a very long list. I suppose the entire point of posting a list like this is so people will argue with you or tell you how smart you are. I hope you generate sufficient engagement with your blog post.

I hope you generate sufficient engagement with your blog post.

New Borad Description?

How could you not include Slow Jam?

The afternoon was very clear
The sun was beating down on me
I got thirsty for a beer
That I had to go to sea
The sea was very rough
It made me feel sick
But I like that kind of stuff
It beats arithmetic

I suppose the entire point of posting a list like this is so people will argue with you or tell you how smart you are. I hope you generate sufficient engagement with your blog post.

Thanks?

But I'm sorry, I guess you're the only passionate New Order fan.

How could you not include Slow Jam?

If bad lyrics is the threshold for landing on the destroy list, there's not much of the New Order catalog that survives. The miracle of this band is that they're still somehow completely essential despite the lyrics. And the singing.

I agree in part but also feel this doesn’t give Bernard enough credit for his many memorable and (sorry) hooky lyrics. He can conjure up some unique images and tap into powerful sentiment - especially (but not limited to) his absolute peak of (let’s say) True Faith -> Regret