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i hate that 3d animation stuff

plax (ico), Thursday, 3 December 2020 15:37 (three years ago) link

idg it there's this weird thing where it reaches for verisimilitude in a really weird and arbitrary way like why do these cartoon characters have visible pores

plax (ico), Thursday, 3 December 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link

1Xtra is a treasure

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 December 2020 10:03 (three years ago) link

one of the programs they still haven't managed to fuck up yet is In Our Time, but I dread to think who will take over when the good Bragg retires. Going by how Emma Barnett getting Woman's Hour is the general direction they are going in then it will be the end of an era for me.

― calzino, Thursday, December 3, 2020

This is a sound analysis of how badly things are going. In our time.

the pinefox, Friday, 11 December 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link

NV <3

it has gotten better now that ben cooper isn't propping up its listening by making it relentlessly mainstream enough to simulcast half its shows on radio 1

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 11 December 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link

Yeah I didn't used to be a big fan but this year I've had it on a lot, lots of great music and the ratio of tunes to chat is much bettee

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Friday, 11 December 2020 11:20 (three years ago) link

I approve the imago-baiting of having Villa v Palace live BBC1 on Boxing day, but seems to trash the no-live-tv-games-at-3pm-saturday rule

J.G Ballard otm (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 11 December 2020 11:42 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

i didn't screenshot it, but i looked at the bbc and daily mail news websites last night and it was the bbc that had a triumphant brexit headline while the DM was focussed on mutant strains and death rates going back above 1000

plax (ico), Friday, 1 January 2021 09:36 (three years ago) link

HNY

plax (ico), Friday, 1 January 2021 09:36 (three years ago) link

Predictable start for Woman's Hour under Emma Barnett, the desperate attention seeking non-entity Shriver filling the air with racism and bigotry, another guest Kelechi, making anti-Semitic comments relating to Weinstein and Me Too. so fucking predictable.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:31 (three years ago) link

it's shocking the amount of platform the Beeb gives to irrelevant psychopaths like Shriver or Toby Young, there really is no rationale for it

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:35 (three years ago) link

there was an apology for Kelechi's comment, which I've not heard in context, but not no comment on Shriver's foul stream of the usual bigoted invective, she get's the same kind of free pass as Toby Young.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link

i always get the feeling the “rationale” is a mixture of people like toby young being highly available and a lot of the time more relevant people being much less so. i can see quite easily the situation where they’re saying “come on, we need someone to pitch the other view, who have you got in your phone book we can get in?” “oh just get toby young he’s always around and can be relied on to give good value for money” etc.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:43 (three years ago) link

am i missing out on the regular anarcho-communists they have on these things?

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

the two sides usually seem to be "maybe the state should protect people a bit from the worst excesses of bigotry and/or poverty, if it's not really affecting me" versus "kill all out groups, let god sort them out"

Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:49 (three years ago) link

i do think ash sarkar would be an example of someone who is available elsewhere (but probably at a different tier) - whatever Matthew Wright is now, for instance (is he still going? god that program was garbage apart from Candice calling the covid approach correctly in the face of a med health expert). Maybe Owen Jones is the Toby Young equivalent?

Fizzles, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 17:59 (three years ago) link

They should just take the easy path and employ Toby Jones full time to just churn out random controversy.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link

(and for what it's worth i think owen jones is fine, but i bet he really fucking boils some people's piss so they go what HIM. AGAIN.)

Fizzles, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:03 (three years ago) link

Predictable start for Woman's Hour under Emma Barnett, the desperate attention seeking non-entity Shriver filling the air with racism and bigotry, another guest Kelechi, making anti-Semitic comments relating to Weinstein and Me Too. so fucking predictable.

― calzino, Wednesday, January 6, 2021 5:31 PM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

this didn't happen afaik. kelechi didn't appear on air because she heard barnett bringing up her past anti- semitic comments and making it clear she would challenge her on them.

oscar bravo, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:06 (three years ago) link

Matthew Wright is now Jeremy Vine. Yes, I think being reliably controversial is what it's all about, which partly explains the love for Spiked among programme makers on both Sky and the BBC - Joanna Williams is very much flavour of the month these days.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:07 (three years ago) link

xp

ah thanks for clearing up my garbled take, I was reading it from other responses.

I know this is the wrong line of attack, but I still think someone whose wealthy upbringing was funded by exploitation of sex-workers and sex-trafficking shouldn't be let anywhere near Woman's Hour.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:12 (three years ago) link

Barnett does have strong feelings about AS though. I recall her on 5 live telling a caller that even if a potential Corbyn govt would improve their life, it would be an evil and selfish trade-off with the threat to UK Jews he presented.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 18:28 (three years ago) link

What is Ash Sarkar's tier?

She is more intelligent and incisive than anyone who has been on Woman's Hour in the last 5 years.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 19:13 (three years ago) link

maybe but that's a low bar

without making any excuses it's pretty clear that antisemitism is only a story when it's coming from people who are black and/or muslim and/or left wing. this is being used quite successfully as a (white) nationalist wedge issue

Left, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 19:28 (three years ago) link

Emma Barnett is Jewish but IIRC she wasn’t a fan before Corbyn got swift boated as antisemitic by all the toxic centrists.

Would be happy with people bringing up her pimp dad and her acceptance of same on the many occasions Me Too and sex work get discussed on WH.

scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link

What is Ash Sarkar's tier?

She is more intelligent and incisive than anyone who has been on Woman's Hour in the last 5 years.


probably not newsnight? it’s not meant in a derogatory way. i think she’s ace, frankly. i don’t know how someone shows that much resilience, humour and spirit in the face of what must be daily abuse. more blitz spirit than the fragile oafs who threaten her.

Fizzles, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 20:42 (three years ago) link

in case Americans are interested in how the BBC's political editor is covering the attempted coup attempt in the Capitol https://t.co/d6v8n1tv8v

— Owen Jones 🌹 (@OwenJones84) January 6, 2021

calzino, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 20:45 (three years ago) link

The woman’s hour thing was terrible, but the original comments by Kelechi were too. fuck giving Lionel Shriver an easy ride is my conclusion tbh

Laura K continues to get worse, wow

scampish inquisition (gyac), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 21:32 (three years ago) link

I'd like to think she's shitted up her rep this time, but I think she'll continue drawing a huge salary from the bbc and posting in the style we've become accustomed to. But trying to play down an attempted armed fascist coup is a new low even by her standards of disingenuous faux insider *reportage* on politics.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 21:48 (three years ago) link

"scuffles in the capitol" is pretty lol

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 22:05 (three years ago) link

A right old stooshie and a rammy in the captiol, aye.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 22:14 (three years ago) link

A bunch of blooming unruly young rascals in the capitol . Heavens above! How smashing!

calzino, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 22:19 (three years ago) link

Hancock spad bumps into a man and it's "things turned nasty when Labour activists punched Hancock" tho.
Fucking "scuffle"

stet, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 22:33 (three years ago) link

I think we should all reserve our judgement on this until we find out if they've harmed any statues.

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) January 6, 2021

calzino, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 22:47 (three years ago) link

For Tom D

https://i.imgur.com/7bZfhry.jpg

Oor Neechy, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 22:55 (three years ago) link

Aye, it's a sair fecht.

Eggbreak Hotel (Tom D.), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 22:55 (three years ago) link

i've been checking p frequently to see how long it takes for the school meals story to reach the bbc news front page. turns out 24 hours later, an apology and rebuttal from chartwells gets there first.

plax (ico), Tuesday, 12 January 2021 22:48 (three years ago) link

ffs if they can't afford license fees they shouldn't get 54 " televisions from brighthouse at 99.99% APR

calzino, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 23:10 (three years ago) link

It was third story (after vaccines and deaths passing WWII) from after lunchtime - led in on Rashford

stet, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 00:04 (three years ago) link

(I was checking too, because fuck these fucks)

stet, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 00:06 (three years ago) link

disingenuous faux insider *reportage* on politics.

― calzino, Wednesday, 6 January 2021 21:48 (one week ago)

Very well described.

Ole Blueyes Solskjaer (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 January 2021 01:06 (three years ago) link

kelechi didn't appear on air because she heard barnett bringing up her past anti- semitic comments and making it clear she would challenge her on them.

isn't the official story that Barnett heard about these comments moments before the show start?

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 11:50 (three years ago) link

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that plenty of BBC shows' 2020 seasons are nominated in the 2020 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2020 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 29, 2021

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:43 (three years ago) link

please add "The BBC" to the top of my ballot

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:46 (three years ago) link

you haven't submitted one!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:48 (three years ago) link

itt: forks forgets my irl name

shivers me timber (sic), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:01 (three years ago) link

oh right. well if you showed up in person in nyc more than once a decade...

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 20:06 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000sbdx

decent first episode on series about British Fascism. It's quite noteworthy that the BBC "de-platformed" Mosley in the 30's, none of this dubious political balance bollox, yah banned m8!

calzino, Saturday, 20 February 2021 12:26 (three years ago) link

Kind of like what happened to Gerry Adams under libertarian and free speech heroine Mrs. Thatcher?

I'm Going to Bring a Watermelon to Mark Grout Tonight (Tom D.), Saturday, 20 February 2021 12:29 (three years ago) link


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