Self Control surely?― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:51 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglinkOoh, good one! There are probably a lot more moody midtempo Italo disco jams in that vein.― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:57 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:51 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Ooh, good one! There are probably a lot more moody midtempo Italo disco jams in that vein.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, December 2, 2020 12:57 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
To my ear "Tarzan Boy" is basically the same song as "Self Control."
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
xpost I considered the last two, which are practically perfect songs, but they seem, I dunno, more straight up ballads to me. And "I Want to Know" has that exultant chorus, too, though I have always detected a certain sadness to it.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link
"In the House of Stone and Light," aka the poor man's "In Your Eyes."
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link
I've never heard that!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIa9UEXd98Q
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
Mike + The Mechanics “The Living Years”
― vmajestic, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:13 (three years ago) link
Though I guess while we are going down that road, "Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" and "Sara" might both fit. Maybe "Oh, Sherrie" by Steve Perry?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:14 (three years ago) link
Not sure if this is in the zone or just adjacent but my brain just suggested "Hazard" by Richard Marx. Feels musically similar but culturally different.
― ledge, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link
Don Henley “Boys of Summer”?
Another dark horse that comes to mind is Dalbello’s “Guilty By Association”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSfmLy54W8Q
― vmajestic, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:17 (three years ago) link
Are Rhiannon and Don't Fear the Reaper too early to count?
The song that leapt to mind reading the thread title was Big Log by Robert Plant.
Curious what song would mark the end of this style, chronologically.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link
Living Years is totally this vibe, yeah.
"Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now" and "Oh, Sherrie" seem a bit too strident to be called moody. "Sara" could work.
Not sure this is AOR but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1_2HhRe1Cc
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link
"End of the Innocence" and probably "Mandolin Rain."
Not sure about "Boys of Summer."
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link
I'd definitely include Big Log! Maybe include Boys of Summer, which pushes the bound of midtempo but is absolutely steeped in mood.
As far as Fleetwood Mac goes, something like "Little Lies" and "Everywhere" are closer in spirit than "Rihannon," imo. BOC is a solid no, though, since it's a bit too fast and has that psychedelic freakout in the middle.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link
"Burnin' for You" tho?
― actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link
"Limelight"??
― actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link
Burnin for You, That comes closer than "Reaper," but it's got that big fist-pumping chorus and key change that kind of throws it off. Limelight, the chorus for sure captures a mood.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link
Interesting, I'd call Little Lies and Everywhere AM pop instead of AOR. I guess I see AOR as incompatible with drum machines and Fairlight samplers.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link
"Games Without Frontiers"?
― actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link
Springsteen’s I’m On Fire & Philadelphia
― vmajestic, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link
Jefferson Starship - "Miracles"
may have in fact invented the genre
― henry s, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link
Jim Capaldi - "That's Love"
― henry s, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link
Marty Balin - "Hearts"
― henry s, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link
I would think anything by Ambrosia or Firefall
"Philadelphia" but not "I'm on Fire."
Wait are we just describing sophistopop? In which case "Life in a Northern Town" and Spandau Ballet's "True" qualify
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:37 (three years ago) link
Hall & Oates - "I Can't Go For That (No Can Do)"
― henry s, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:38 (three years ago) link
Bryan Ferry’s The Name of the Game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvJ5VkOrz4w
Shares a lot of musical DNA with Live To Tell, then again it’s a Patrick Leonard co-write.
― vmajestic, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link
I'm actually not totally sure what we're describing. I first thought we were talking about songs that would have been on album-oriented rock radio stations in the early 80s with a driving beat but more atmospheric feel, combining guitars and synths (which would not include Spandau Ballet or Madonna) - but some of these seem like something p different from that.xps
― actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link
Eric Carmen “Hungry Eyes”
― vmajestic, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:43 (three years ago) link
Steve Miller “Abracadabra”
― vmajestic, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:44 (three years ago) link
Hall & Oates again, with "One On One"
― henry s, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:45 (three years ago) link
Alan Parson Project again, with "Breakdown"
― henry s, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link
Sund4r, I think "moody" is pretty subjective - you know moody when you hear it. Not sure "a driving beat" is essential; rather something that is good to drive to. Josh in Chicago's first examples were
Foreigner, "Waiting for a Girl Like You"The Who, "Eminence Front"Eagles, "I Can't Tell You Why"Alan Parson's Project, "Eye in the Sky"
"Eminence Front" is a fucking JAM with huge drums. "Eye in the Sky" has some rock edge as well, especially in the chorus. The other two are understated in terms of "driving beat."
All do have atmospheric feel, and combine guitars and synths, so perhaps that's part of the recipe. Ultimately only the OP can say if we're hitting the mark.
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link
I think there is a lot of crossover with sophistipop. But I also think of stuff like, for example, Tina Turner's Mad Max song, which is not sophistipop.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link
Yeah, I think I was mainly thinking of "Eminence Front" and "Eye in the Sky".xp
― actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
those Hall & Oates songs are interesting examples as well I think. I don't think I would call them sophistipop, though they share some DNA.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
"I'm Not In Love" strikes me as the epitome of this thread description, which reminds me:
Godley & Creme - "Cry"
― henry s, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link
And yeah, I am considering the presence of guitars with moody synths, nothing you would necessarily dance to, but not necessarily ballads either. Rock, but mushy. Blue eyed soul, but more robotic.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link
another good rule of thumb could indeed be that famous in the air tonight sequence from Miami vice. What other songs might fit that scene.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link
I'm chuckling about the idea of replacing "In the Air Tonight" with "The Living Years."
Not so much for the Miami Vice scene but for the scene in Risky Business where they fuck on a train.
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:01 (three years ago) link
Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms (the song)
― Davek (davek_00), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link
lol Tangerine Dream's scores are a good rule of thumb too!
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link
hmm, maybe stuff like the momentary lapse of reason era of Pink Floyd fits too.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link
Mike & the Mechanics - Taken InMichael Franks - NightmovesMichael McDonald - I keep forgettin’Gerry Rafferty - right down the lineEmmett Kai - juicySopwith Camel - Fazon
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:04 (three years ago) link
There's a lot of moody verses combined with bombastic choruses and codas in this quasi-genre.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link
right down the line is another good example, was that from the seventies?
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link
Same LP as Baker Street, I think. 77?
― henry s, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
That book "Rock and the Pop Narcotic"? I think we're looking for the Pop Narcotic here.
― henry s, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link
Al Stewart - "Time Passages", possibly "Year of the Cat"
― henry s, Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link
"Song on the Radio" by Al Stewart too.
This compilation is what I keep returning to
https://www.allmusic.com/album/open-all-night-in-the-city-mw0000001216
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 December 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link
thread needs some atlanta rhythm section imo
― budo jeru, Sunday, December 13, 2020 2:09 PM (two years ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol
― budo jeru, Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:29 (eleven months ago) link
Schmit has to be among the top ten tenors of all time. His voice in that video co-stars with his luxuriant hair and the 'stache of Joe Walsh.
The music is good, sure. But let us please reflect that this was a truly epic period for Eagles hairdos.
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:42 (eleven months ago) link
He would have been the standout star performer of almost any band he joined... except for the band he was actually in.
Reminds me of Mike Mills saying that he's a good singer who just happens to be in a band with one of the greatest rock singers ever.
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 May 2023 16:49 (eleven months ago) link
Prez K yep but there is more to being a frontman than singing.
A hypothetical nonBeatles fronted by George Harrison goes exactly as far as Badfinger.
A hypothetical nonREM fronted by Mike Mills goes exactly as far as Poi Dog Pondering.
A hypothetical nonEagles fronted by Timothy B. Schmit goes exactly as far as Poco.
A rock band fronted by the Edge goes as far as Big Country.
A folk group fronted by Art Garfunkel goes nowhere.
A new wave act fronted by Andy Summers goes nowhere.
A soul group fronted by John Oates goes nowhere.
Ego is a hell of a drug, but a lack of it is also, apparently, fatal. Major acts seem to need at least one person with messianic dreams
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 May 2023 18:00 (eleven months ago) link
Is "Fast Car" to slow?
You want moody, looks at any song with a video directed by Matt Mahurin.
― Hideous Lump, Thursday, 11 May 2023 18:04 (eleven months ago) link
Great post, YMP. Would be a fun thread (reminds me of Imagine if John Lydon had died in 1980 and Ian Curtis was making adverts for Country Life butter)
― enochroot, Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:16 (eleven months ago) link
How far would Genesis have gone if they let the drummer sing?
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:18 (eleven months ago) link
it's fun to think about what happens to zeppelin if page got his wish and terry reid was the singer
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 May 2023 19:24 (eleven months ago) link
A solo John Oates could have written and sung a handful of hits in the late 70s, think of all the comparative non-entities who had moderate success in that era.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 11 May 2023 20:28 (eleven months ago) link
I love Oates but he is not an ambitious fellow.
What if, in 2007, Journey hired a 40-year-old Filipino cover band singer to replace Steve Perry?
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 May 2023 20:33 (eleven months ago) link
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, May 11, 2023 3:24 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
i remember reading an itw with Tony Iommi in some guitar mag c. early 90's and he said Phil Collins was the singer he most wanted to work with, he loved Phil's voice and wanted him to sing for Black Sabbath.
― No, 𝘐'𝘮 Breathless! (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 11 May 2023 20:40 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3pbQAqnpbc
― brimstead, Thursday, 11 May 2023 21:02 (eleven months ago) link
My grasp of cosmology is shaky but it stands to reason that if there are any alternate universes, the logical conclusion is that there are an infinite number of alternate universes.
So there is either precisely one reality, or an infinite number of realities. Once you get past one, there is no reason to cap the number of universes. If there are a hundred, why not five hundred? If there a thousand, why not twenty thousand?
This is a long way of saying that maybe there's a universe in which Phil Collins is the lead singer of Black Sabbath.
And Queen is fronted by George Michael. For some reason, Whitesnake never existed and the Chicago River always flows eastward.
The only dipping sauces available for McNuggets are ranch and guacamole.
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 11 May 2023 23:55 (eleven months ago) link
I would like to hear the first Queen album fronted by a 10 year old George Michael
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 11 May 2023 23:57 (eleven months ago) link
but I won't live in a world without Whitesnake
Don't worry, ums, in that reality Coverdale starts a band with John Mellencamp and they call it CougarSnake.
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 May 2023 00:00 (eleven months ago) link
Picturing Coverdale singing “Suckin’ on a Chili Dog”
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 12 May 2023 00:53 (eleven months ago) link
i just wanna get close to youtaste your lovin' hogand i just wanna make love to yousuck on yr chili dog
― mookieproof, Friday, 12 May 2023 00:57 (eleven months ago) link
Here I go again on my ownSuckin on the only dog I've ever known
― coolgnoscenti (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 12 May 2023 13:00 (eleven months ago) link
^^^ loooool!
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 12 May 2023 13:52 (eleven months ago) link
Crumblin' down slow and easy
― INDEPENDENTS DAY BY STEVEN SPILBERG (President Keyes), Friday, 12 May 2023 13:58 (eleven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Fy7NhD_co
Phil Manzanera - Listen Now
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Saturday, 10 June 2023 19:37 (ten months ago) link
not sure what song this Seahawks edit is ofhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEHX-Hp2GbA
― brimstead, Sunday, 11 June 2023 01:57 (ten months ago) link
Sanford Townsend Band - Moolah Moo Mazuma (Sin City Wahh-oo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBIi5AEiN9A
― c u (crüt), Sunday, 11 June 2023 13:09 (ten months ago) link
(not a response to brimstead)
― c u (crüt), Sunday, 11 June 2023 13:10 (ten months ago) link
A dollop of Michael Franks:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IytymyhQxLk
― underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Sunday, 11 June 2023 16:06 (ten months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g_3Ffo0MHAThe Comsat Angels - I'm Falling
― rincton monkspoon (NickB), Sunday, 11 June 2023 16:24 (ten months ago) link
Aax Donnell and Eric Malone - “Golden Cage”https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFkXyEWXX
― brimstead, Sunday, 11 June 2023 18:04 (ten months ago) link
pantshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y43Ia8Ettqc
*searches YouTube on "icehouse no promises extended mix" and looks for longest one*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgudWMZcSFw
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 28 July 2023 06:57 (eight months ago) link
Icehouse were never played on any AOR station in my neck of the woods (we have a classic rocker and a more metal leaning one) but they WERE played quite a bit on a AAA that was new here in 1984. They featured a mix of progressive rock, alternative rock, jazz and new-age music, an approach similar to stations such as WXRT in Chicago and KBCO in Denver. Other influences reach back even farther, to progressive FM rock stations from the 1960s and 1970s. (thanks, wiki.)
"Man of Colours" by Icehouse got played a lot, along with a couple others below; maybe more downtempo than mid, but certainly moody.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtWjYRNL9uEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swUdXb94LB0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXWypJvmO_g
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Friday, 28 July 2023 14:07 (eight months ago) link
Three Dog Night – Easy Evilhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j3IKMUQe1w
― c u (crüt), Monday, 2 October 2023 00:45 (six months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_Hm5mrHFsA
Listen to the build up on this one
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 October 2023 19:42 (five months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQl62w71Ets
― brimstead, Thursday, 19 October 2023 20:27 (five months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnpwuRlXbhk
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:10 (five months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmslaEudR3M
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:22 (five months ago) link