GET OUT: US politics November 2020

people get mad at the people/institutions that hypthetically share (at least some of) their priorities and should be less shitty. you don't argue with mutants.

tipsy otm

xpost fuck that, I got in Leonardo's face last week

You have to get past the Better Things Aren’t Possible corporate Democrats before you can even take on the mutants.

I guess we need a December thread if anyone wants to step up

people get mad at the people/institutions that hypthetically share (at least some of) their priorities and should be less shitty. you don't argue with mutants.

I agree with you up to a point, I think it's good to hold people on or closer to "your side" accountable, and yes you should have higher expectations of them than you do of people who are nakedly hostile to your views or values. But also it's important to always understand and keep in mind your total political context, which very much includes all of those people who are nakedly hostile to you.

Mostly the leftist vilification of Biden this year and Hillary in '16 has seemed performative to me in a fairly tired way that just seems removed from the political world I live in. Joe Biden being a corporate centrist is far from my greatest political concern. I agree with most of the criticisms (though some are reductive and overly simplistic), but I also understand that a comfortable, familiar moderate was what a lot of voters gravitated to this year. And I understand why. I don't hate people who voted for Joe Biden in the primary. They were doing what they thought was the best thing to beat Donald Trump. I can't argue with the results of that.

Harping on Joe Biden being a bad person or "racist sack of shit" or whatever doesn't advance any particular cause that I can see, though I'm sure it feels good.

Keep the mutants out of power first and foremost.

We’re on Ilx to feel good(?) not advance causes tho xp

these days I'm on ILM to find Chris Rea remixes.

Keep the mutants out of power first and foremost.

The corporate Democrats have a terrible record at this, though. Seems like they’re more comfortable sharing the stage with the mutants than social democrats or progressives.

Harping on Joe Biden being a bad person or "racist sack of shit" or whatever doesn't advance any particular cause that I can see, though I'm sure it feels good.

it does not

(though personally those aren't the terms/lines of attack I would focus on)

When the Republicans get even an inch more leverage they use it to do the worst shit possible. Trump’s presidency set us back decades. That kind of shit has to be prevented at all costs. Look at our fucking Supreme Court now.

(not mad at anyone here, just getting a little worked up)

more than 1 xp

Karl are you currently attempting a 420 unlock on Havin' A Roni

― huge rant (sic)

holy shit that is a vanilla ice DEEP CUT

This fucking discussion again huh

look, i understand that everyone already knows havin' a roni. it's not a "deep cut". but i was a kid when vanilla ice was huge, and we only knew ice ice baby. this may be the millionth time for you, but i've been waiting to talk about havin' a roni for 30+ years now

i'm skipping over the rest of it because i saw a glance and yes, it's this fucking discussion again

we are in hell

minimal judgment, there; i've been in that discussion a hundred times, and i will probably be in it next time

that's how hell works

“we are in hell” for December thread title

You have to get past the Better Things Aren’t Possible corporate Democrats before you can even take on the mutants.

Progressives are 0 for 2 in the last two Dem primaries - 0 for 0 in the general. Try harder?

I donated to and supported and voted for Bernie in the primary. I thought Trump was so hated that 2020 was the golden opportunity for progressives - if not now, then when?

Now I seriously question whether anyone other than Joe Biden was going to win this election.

oh shit, it's Dec 1? wtf are we doing in this thread?!?
GET OUT!!

GET OUT!!!!!!!

"we are in hell" is basically the one statement we can all agree on

here we go
US Politics December 2020: an uneventful month, overall

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