Posts you had second thought about and decided not to post - put them here

"your mom" jokes are terrible for everyone involved, but like a moth to the flame .....

more like YOUR MOM to the flame

While I can agree with the core of what you're saying, the uncompromising tone of these hardline rhetorical positions is really just like 'please, everyone to the left of the GOP, let us balkanize to the point where we are no longer capable of any kind of functional coalition'.

judging politicians on their record in office is grossly unfair, it's true

Not even remotely related to what I was saying but okay

oh great now it's a thing in this thread too

i wasn't specifically responding to you OL but let's be real, no beastliness to the centrist tendency is acceptable, one of these days they might just surprise ya

narrator's voice:

me mind on fire

While I can agree with the core of what you're saying, the uncompromising tone of these hardline rhetorical positions is really just like 'please, everyone to the left of the GOP, let us balkanize to the point where we are no longer capable of any kind of functional coalition'.

If it were possible to harness the rotatory energy from circular internet arguments, we could light the world.

we can melt the ice-caps be we can't melt the melts!

We gotta melt the melts
We gotta face the face

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS3nRcwWktA

'You could try saying that thing that I agree with in a less sneeringly self-righteous way such that we might convince others who aren't already firmly in your camp to agree with the valid point you're trying to make.'

'OH I SEE YOU MUST HATE THE YOUNGS YOU DODDERING OLD CENTRIST'

Defund The Tone Police

I close my eyes
Only for a moment
Now my post is gone

xps to OL this might be a point worth making (and hearing) if the people I am talking about ever gave the slightest indication that they understood the context of the people they so readily deem impatient and childish. But no, it’s just amisooutoftouch.gif all over and over and over again.

The argument you keep returning to, and I don’t know if you realise you are making it, is that the tone of the argument is wrong, so essentially saying people should be nicer to you in order to get you on board. This comes across regardless of the context being such that if you are a younger person (and btw this is something I get from people in their twenties), they have a huge amount of contempt towards progressives in their 30s and 40s who haven’t got their shit together to sort out climate change and now the continued existence of the species itself is at risk. So, no, manners are not the thing to clutch your pearls over here.

ftr I am differentiating here between something like '(hearable and sensible leftist position)' and 'if you don't agree with (hearable and sensible leftist position) completely you're less than human'.

Also this is 0% to do with getting me on board (I am) or being nicer to me (IDGAF). It has 100% to do with growing a message, persuading those who aren't already on board, building a coalition, etc. If it's more important to preach to the choir than to actually effect change, then IDGI.

so we have this c onvo going on in two diff threads now, cool

xxxp all we are is posts in the wind

No, you don’t, and you’re literally just saying the same old lines that miss the point, so I’ll leave it there cos I like you and I don’t want to get into it.

so we have this c onvo going on in two diff threads now, cool

― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:03 (fifty-three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

In all sincerity, this is afaict the only conversation on ilx

#onethread

it's been

one thread

since i shat on you

Prefer the sinéad version

There are no coalitions to build on ILX. The 45 voters spread across 9 states do not constitute a valuable bloc.

There is only one river, there is only one sea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMh9hPGNGKE

Internecine squabbles keep this place alive.

I look forward to the squabble about whether they really are internecine or not.

You do wish people would just spit out what they mean rather than cloak it in plausible deniability so we could get to the point a lot faster, though.

xxpost ^great Cattle Decap song

The fundamental question imo is ‘how do we win?’ Everything else flows from there.

Getting “alphie was right” tattooed on me as I speak

you’re literally just saying the same old lines

new board description

No, you don’t, and you’re literally just saying the same old lines that miss the point, so I’ll leave it there cos I like you and I don’t want to get into it.

― scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, December 1, 2020 11:04 AM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I can accept this! And I am also happy to drop it (which was the intention of dropping it itt in the first place) because I like you as well.

#onethread
#oneheart

The fundamental question imo is ‘how do we win?’ Everything else flows from there.

What do you want to win, is a more fundamental question.

pancakes

pancakes and sausage on a stick

#onethread
#oneheart

- Jacob Marley

Jah Humbug!

lolz

Lol

legit lol, bravo

Amazing.

The thing that critics of activists don’t get is that they tried playing the “polite language” policy game and all it did was make them easier to ignore.

It wasn’t until they made folks uncomfortable that there was traction to do ANYTHING even if it wasn’t their full demands.

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) December 2, 2020

You’d think fellow Irish people might understand that too, huh

O'Casio

if this thread results in a single excelsioring I'm FPing everyone on the boards

too late

not *this* thread lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dLPsw3i_P8