I think maybe uspol’s endless cycle of left-punching could be just normal boring if the posters in question ever dropped the wide-eyed “actions? who judges by actions? sounds like PURITY to me” nonsense. Instead it’s just the unlovely combo of spiteful and boring that it seems to be every time I look in there.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Monday, 30 November 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link
I'd argue that both camps have tiresome shticks that get replayed day in and out.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 30 November 2020 21:37 (three years ago) link
Normal boring. :)
― scampus fugit (gyac), Monday, 30 November 2020 21:38 (three years ago) link
Yes, but it's normal boring that goes both ways.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 30 November 2020 21:43 (three years ago) link
(second thoughts thread, so not expecting or pushing for engagement, just observing:)
Tom, multiple people have posted that they would appreciate you expressing your politics here, both for its own sake, and as an alternative to your attacking or insulting other posters as a substitute for discussion. If other people have posted that you should never express your politics, those people said something dumb.
On the other hand, you have argued that no citizen of any given non-US country should ever post about US politics, even if the US military operates a couple of dozen bases and spy facilities in that country, mostly free from local personnel or oversight of any kind (a detail especially poignant in 2020, when those facilities are exempt from the pandemic restrictions that have kept citizens out of the country for nine months and counting while the Prime Minister insults them).
― huge rant (sic), Monday, 30 November 2020 21:48 (three years ago) link
I don’t recall belonging to the “fuck off foreigners” club but you’re sic so I know you have an old post handy that proves I said it at some point. Thanks for following up.
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 30 November 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
to be clear, it doesn't count if we said it to Fred
― DJP, Monday, 30 November 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link
Everyone said it to Fred, regardless of nationality.
― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Monday, 30 November 2020 22:15 (three years ago) link
Tbf we should all post more about Danish politics.
― pomenitul, Monday, 30 November 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link
lets not encourage him back here please
― calzino, Monday, 30 November 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
once you have heeded the Dane melt, you never get rid of the Dane.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Monday, 30 November 2020 22:20 (three years ago) link
Undead Mink '23
― DJP, Monday, 30 November 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link
the thing about fred was that he was a foreigner in a deeper sense, to the rest of humanity
― cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Monday, 30 November 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link
a fred to all is a fred to none. but a fred fp'd is a fred indeed.
― foopin posts and pissin shits (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 30 November 2020 22:41 (three years ago) link
i wonder if fred has ever made love to famous american political satirist randy newman
― foopin posts and pissin shits (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 30 November 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link
spruce springclean (darraghmac)Posted: 30 November 2020 at 22:30:10Oh god
― scampus fugit (gyac), Monday, 30 November 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link
Otm
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Monday, 30 November 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link
Yeah my Mom is genuinely spooked
can confirm
― cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Monday, 30 November 2020 22:57 (three years ago) link
"your mom" jokes are terrible for everyone involved, but like a moth to the flame .....
― cosmic vision | bleak epiphany | erotic email (map), Monday, 30 November 2020 22:58 (three years ago) link
more like YOUR MOM to the flame
― early-Woolf semantic prosody (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 01:32 (three years ago) link
While I can agree with the core of what you're saying, the uncompromising tone of these hardline rhetorical positions is really just like 'please, everyone to the left of the GOP, let us balkanize to the point where we are no longer capable of any kind of functional coalition'.
― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 15:11 (three years ago) link
judging politicians on their record in office is grossly unfair, it's true
― Carry On Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link
Not even remotely related to what I was saying but okay
― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 15:31 (three years ago) link
oh great now it's a thing in this thread too
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 15:32 (three years ago) link
i wasn't specifically responding to you OL but let's be real, no beastliness to the centrist tendency is acceptable, one of these days they might just surprise ya
narrator's voice:
― Carry On Scamping (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 15:33 (three years ago) link
me mind on fire
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link
― scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link
If it were possible to harness the rotatory energy from circular internet arguments, we could light the world.
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link
we can melt the ice-caps be we can't melt the melts!
― calzino, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link
We gotta melt the meltsWe gotta face the face
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS3nRcwWktA
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:15 (three years ago) link
'You could try saying that thing that I agree with in a less sneeringly self-righteous way such that we might convince others who aren't already firmly in your camp to agree with the valid point you're trying to make.'
'OH I SEE YOU MUST HATE THE YOUNGS YOU DODDERING OLD CENTRIST'
― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link
Defund The Tone Police
― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link
I close my eyesOnly for a momentNow my post is gone
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
xps to OL this might be a point worth making (and hearing) if the people I am talking about ever gave the slightest indication that they understood the context of the people they so readily deem impatient and childish. But no, it’s just amisooutoftouch.gif all over and over and over again.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
The argument you keep returning to, and I don’t know if you realise you are making it, is that the tone of the argument is wrong, so essentially saying people should be nicer to you in order to get you on board. This comes across regardless of the context being such that if you are a younger person (and btw this is something I get from people in their twenties), they have a huge amount of contempt towards progressives in their 30s and 40s who haven’t got their shit together to sort out climate change and now the continued existence of the species itself is at risk. So, no, manners are not the thing to clutch your pearls over here.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 16:58 (three years ago) link
ftr I am differentiating here between something like '(hearable and sensible leftist position)' and 'if you don't agree with (hearable and sensible leftist position) completely you're less than human'.
Also this is 0% to do with getting me on board (I am) or being nicer to me (IDGAF). It has 100% to do with growing a message, persuading those who aren't already on board, building a coalition, etc. If it's more important to preach to the choir than to actually effect change, then IDGI.
― You will notice a small sink where your sofa once was. (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link
so we have this c onvo going on in two diff threads now, cool
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
xxxp all we are is posts in the wind
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
No, you don’t, and you’re literally just saying the same old lines that miss the point, so I’ll leave it there cos I like you and I don’t want to get into it.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:03 (fifty-three seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
In all sincerity, this is afaict the only conversation on ilx
#onethread
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link
it's been
one thread
since i shat on you
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link
Prefer the sinéad version
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link
There are no coalitions to build on ILX. The 45 voters spread across 9 states do not constitute a valuable bloc.
― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:08 (three years ago) link
There is only one river, there is only one sea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMh9hPGNGKE
― velcro-magnon (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
Internecine squabbles keep this place alive.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link
I look forward to the squabble about whether they really are internecine or not.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
You do wish people would just spit out what they mean rather than cloak it in plausible deniability so we could get to the point a lot faster, though.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
xxpost ^great Cattle Decap song
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link
The fundamental question imo is ‘how do we win?’ Everything else flows from there.
― pomenitul, Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link
Getting “alphie was right” tattooed on me as I speak
― scampus fugit (gyac), Tuesday, 1 December 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link