BEARDO DISCO (finally fixed for vahid) - not idjuts / lindstrom - harvey, rub'n'tug, map of africa

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anyway, welcome to ILX, where everything is a continuum, soon enough someone will come on this thread and be like "my name is chuck eddy and i think kiss and the rolling stones and big & rich are better and easier to dance to than theo parrish and moodymann and the rest of your hyped-for-the-sake-of-obscurity record snob shit" and you'll say he's wrong and he'll say you're wrong and my lovely thread is STILL derailed.

HUNTA-V (vahid), Sunday, 19 November 2006 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

also if you re-read the thread carefully, we already talked about crate-digging and obscurity for it's own sake, and not being dancey enough, and fakeness, and theo parrish already!

HUNTA-V (vahid), Sunday, 19 November 2006 22:01 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm glad you're not affraid to play the "typical" records. I was going to say that for someone mostly concerned with getting people to dance, your set was suspicially missing any song that a normal person would actually recognize.

But my understanding re BMX and Hardy...some of those Hardy mixes from the early 80s are straigh up no different from Knuckles, classic disco, deep house, but within a few years he's definitely playing the earliest tapes of the serious new "house" records, but to be honest, it still sounds to me like those artists wanted to sound more like Electra, New Order, Gaz Nevada etc, then the philly/NY disco. Perhaps that's just due to the house music I gravitate towards, which is the New Waviest of the time. The BMX mixes I love, particularly Mickey Mixin' Oliver's, are where there's a great mix of early house, UK new wave, italo-disco, and then current top 40 hits. But maybe he's the "whitest" of the hot-mix 5, and maybe that's why I like him(using your terminology, I usually try to avoid equating funky music with black people and electronic pop with white people in public).

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:00 (seventeen years ago) link

"double? cat gang? clive stevens & brainchild?"

and ginny, john forde, etc. plus all the hype behind the black cock stuff and idjut stuff that just isnt that good.

and hell yeah, i dig for my shit. but ive passed on "rare" records because i dont like them, many times in fact. what im irritated with in fact is that these guys are taking the easy way out by just playing stuff that is rare instead of stuff that is rare and really good. really, anyone can take some $$$ and go to a dealer (and i know harvey and the idjuts buy from dealers, ive seen the dealers mentioning so on DJH) and buy their most expensive rare records and then play them. again, the parallel to what has happened in funk/rare groove digging is really obvious to me, where its just becoming about who has something that NO ONE ELSE has. its exactly the same attitude as jungle and dubstep and whatnot use in "exclusivity", and its something that turns me off. in the end it should all be about the music, and i feel like in this case it's not.

pipecock (pipecock), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:09 (seventeen years ago) link

i dont think there's a problem with noting the culture of origin of music, all of that kind of stuff is very important in understanding music!

pipecock (pipecock), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

so it's so objectively clear that all those songs are just NO GOOD? That's the main part of your argument that's the most annoying. Mystery Man or whatever, that's not your scene, fine, but some of us really love that song and I don't think I should have to justify my interest in it, you know, to make sure you don't think I mindlessly ape Cosmic playlists only because somebody told me they were cool! Give us some credit ok?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:42 (seventeen years ago) link

it might not be the case for *you*, but come on, in all honesty how many people do you think were checking Osmonds records 2 years ago? the answer: zero. shit, i bet that without that track having been played by anyone, 99.9% of people youd play it for who are into that would have dissed it.

pipecock (pipecock), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:48 (seventeen years ago) link

what I'm keep saying is like, in all genres of music, 99% of EVERYONE is a total hater untill someone makes it cool for them. It's just the way it is. Do you remember a time when you got laughed at for playing disco? For playing house or techno? For playing hi-nrg? (wait a sec...) It's all about the audience. Italians who went to Cosmic probably never thought Ginny was shit. And lots of DJs never would have heard it if it wasn't for some playlist or some DJ. There's no way to test whether they would've liked it even if Harvey didn't. I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just saying it's kind of a given and it's not a big deal and it doesn't make it right to assume that everyone who likes those records is a lemming. Many times I've just stumbled upon some record I'd never heard of and started playing it because I liked it and a year later I realize Hardy used to play or a year later someone does an edit of it and bootlegs it and suddenly everyone's playing it. Am I supposed to stop playing it? Stop liking it? Should I call all those DJs names?

And for the record, hipster rock nerds have been talking about the Osmonds for a few years before the hipster disco nerds.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 19 November 2006 23:58 (seventeen years ago) link

my money is on pipecock being an alias of vahid

yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:08 (seventeen years ago) link

evidence: consecutive posts and the "quote" thing

yours fondly, harshaw. (mrgn), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:09 (seventeen years ago) link

the Lexx 12" on Bear Funk= teh yes.

trees (treesessplode), Monday, 20 November 2006 01:13 (seventeen years ago) link

im all over the web as "pipecock" btw, DJH, DHP, littledetroit, disception, detroitluv, livejournal, and more. real name thomas cox, used on the 313 mailing list as well as many others over the years (breaks, forward bound, etc etc).

see, one of the main reasons i like the house/disco/techno/electro "scenes" (for lack of a better word) is their continuity. people have continually done these things and at the end of the day, you can mix up all these parts from over the years and it all still makes sense. its these little over hyped hipster cults that form around any given music (dubstep was killing me for a while since no one cared when that shit was being born!) that irritates the shit out of me. there has been hype around good music, and bad. but no music has ever truly benefitted from it. and i feel like this one is indeed one that is just way overblown already......

BTW, i did like alot of the selections on your boy's "italians do it better" blog, some nice shit on there (like that starbow 12") that isnt way overhyped but is still really good.

pipecock (pipecock), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:25 (seventeen years ago) link

I remember when they came out I saw some DJ at Botanica using it and I was like "hey, that's a great comp" and he was like "I have all the original 12"s at home". That's like the DJ's pledge "I may play from a comp, but I have all the original 12"s at home".

-- Dan Selzer (danselze...) (webmail), September 15th, 2006 2:19 PM. (Dan Selzer) (link)


i drop the originals of some of the unclassics records

-- pipecock (twelve.bi...) (webmail), Today 3:08 PM. (pipecock) (later) (link)

lol, DJs

songs and ballads of the bituminous miners (sanskrit), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:32 (seventeen years ago) link

you'll say he's wrong and he'll say you're wrong and my lovely thread is STILL derailed

HUNTA-V (vahid), Monday, 20 November 2006 02:53 (seventeen years ago) link

yeeeeeesh crack a window guys

am0n (am0n), Monday, 20 November 2006 03:54 (seventeen years ago) link

people sweating a track because a big name played it is as old as DJing and has little to do with what we talk about on this thread.

researching ur life (grady), Monday, 20 November 2006 04:31 (seventeen years ago) link

BTW, i did like alot of the selections on your boy's "italians do it better" blog, some nice shit on there (like that starbow 12") that isnt way overhyped but is still really good.

mike's a good example of someone who doesn't pay much attention to the cannon. While everyone else is studying djhistory threads and buying bootleg edit comps, he's going to secret record spots, buying nameless records in bulk and playing the ones he likes.

I do that sometimes as well, but like, you have to have the time and money to go digging. The rest of the time someone props something on the internet, you check it out, and you buy the bootleg like all the other suckers.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 20 November 2006 05:46 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
alright, i'm gonna fuck the thread title here and say that the new Idjut Boys 12" is great.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:36 (seventeen years ago) link

which one?

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 05:52 (seventeen years ago) link

smokin balls. new-ish.

the table is the table (treesessplode), Friday, 5 January 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i think that's actually a re-press from an early 06 release. did anyone like thier press play mix?

and how do people rate the newer tirk releases?

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

Picked up the Elaste compilation over Christmas, and I am madly in love with the Logic System, Love International and Memory Control 1 (a DJ Loda sideproject) tracks. Is there any good reason why the only Logic System stuff currently in print is a heavily copy-protected, Japanese import greatest hits album? Because "Clash (Chinjyu of Sun)" (also on the Kaos & Sal P. mix) is fucking incredible, Lindstrom twenty years before Lindstrom.

Telephonething (Telephonething), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, and who are Eloy and why hadn't I heard of them before? Damn.

Telephonething (Telephonething), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link

"clash" is on the sarcastic vynil bootleg.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Telephonething did you ever hear Reverso 68's remix of Manhead's "Doop"? It's heavily based on "Clash (Chinjyu of Sun)" and is great despite its open derivativeness.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 5 January 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link

eloy = 70's / 80's german progsters.

stirmonster (stirmonster), Friday, 5 January 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link

(i am not sufficiently informed about Idjut Boys. i don't really give a shit though, cuz it's a re-release)

the table is the table (treesessplode), Friday, 5 January 2007 22:15 (seventeen years ago) link

i was just wondering if there was a new one i didn't know about.

mahalo 4 ur kokua (grady), Friday, 5 January 2007 22:40 (seventeen years ago) link

anybody know how the sound quality is on that sarcastic vinyl bootleg?

gaseous (gaseous), Saturday, 6 January 2007 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

go now to djsanonymous.org and listen to the mixes by q-burns abstract message and dj julian. so damn good!!

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 7 January 2007 00:23 (seventeen years ago) link

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jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 11 January 2007 19:36 (seventeen years ago) link

carl craig + lindstrom also

vahid (vahid), Thursday, 11 January 2007 19:51 (seventeen years ago) link

Mezzanine
444 Jessie Street
San Francisco, CA 94103

Fri Feb 9 (10:00 p.m.)

Red Dot and Mezzanine Presents

DEMON DAYS FEATURING

LINDSTROM
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ML Tronik and TK Disco

10:00 PM - 4:00 AM

$10 Limited Advance Tickets

21+ with ID

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vahid (vahid), Thursday, 11 January 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

FUCK ME WHY IS I NOT IN SAN FRANDISKO

the table is the table (treesessplode), Thursday, 11 January 2007 20:36 (seventeen years ago) link

"clash" is on the sarcastic vynil bootleg.

unfortunately, it's 33rpm so you can't pitch it down enough for maximum deep vibes

gaseous (gaseous), Saturday, 13 January 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Lovefingers is DJing at Jeremy's movie night tonight...

http://www.tropicalcomputersystem.com/

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 14 January 2007 02:21 (seventeen years ago) link

that lindstrom show is going to be nuts

Dominique (dleone), Sunday, 14 January 2007 03:29 (seventeen years ago) link

underdog edits box

slackety yax (H2-H4), Sunday, 14 January 2007 04:17 (seventeen years ago) link

my best friend Ben from LA usually makes a cdr of his favorite tracks of the year and sends them to friends. this year he mixed it and it's pretty amazing.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/w2az2f

1. Bill Cosby "Yes, Yes, Yes"
2. JDilla "Workinonit"
3. Brennan Green "Divisadero"
4. Discotheque "Disco Special
5. Bama the Village Poet "Social Narcotics"
6. Norman Griscombe, Jr. "Get Up & Dance"
7. Serious Intention "You Don't Know RMX"
8. Vicky 'D' "This Beat Is Mine"
9. Plastic Mode "Baja Imperial"
10. LCD Soundsystem "Too Much Love"
11. Arturo Benavides "Muchacha"
12. Brennan Green "Little Ease (Lindstrom & Prins
Thomas RMX)"
13. ??? (rong)
14. Spank Rock "Rick Rubin (inst.)"
15. Groupo Sta. Cecilia "Africa Bump"
16. JDilla "Won't Do"
17. Eurythmics "Aqua"
18. Glorious Strangers "Deception"
19. Chicago "I'm A Man (Rub-N-Tug Re-edit)"
20. Goldfrapp "Slide In (DFA RMX Inst.)"
21. LEM "I Wonder"
22. Womb "Peace"
23. Brennan Green "900lb Man"
24. James T. Cotton "My Zel"
25. Frank N. Dank "Push (Inst.)"
26. Daybre "Hyped-Up Plus Tax (Outputmessage RMX)"
27. James T. Cotton "A Long Way Down"

jaxon (jaxon), Thursday, 18 January 2007 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

you guys should check out the new teki latex tracks on discobelle.

groovemaan (groove nihilist), Sunday, 21 January 2007 15:12 (seventeen years ago) link

anyone have that new elaste comp on compost?

I am enjoying it.

For some reason I never got around to listening to that dj harvey mix and it is AWESOME.

hector (hector), Saturday, 3 February 2007 02:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes! The Elaste comp is fantastic. Hoping there will be more installments, as the "volume 1" seems to imply.

Also, Whatever We Want's website has updated, but still has no info beyond "Prerelease Spring 2007."

Telephonething (Telephonething), Saturday, 3 February 2007 03:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm pretty sure that owl necklace on their homepage can be bought at urban outfitters.

jaxon (jaxon), Saturday, 3 February 2007 04:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Does anyone know if the LP version of Gruble differs from the CD version? Fewer tracks? More tracks?

Foolish Beat (Roger Fidelity), Sunday, 4 February 2007 01:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah ... LP is missing "we don't care" and "mike's tears"

did anybody ever ID all the tracks on "gruble"? i only know the easy ones

"we don't care" = ?
"lasagne for 10" = chilly "for your love"
"size doesn't matter" = tina turner "whole lotta love"
"eat the jeans" = ?
"staying noid" = richard ace "staying alive"
"backwards is the best way forward" = gloria gaynor "if you want it"
"satchel on my doorstep" - roxy music "the main thing"
"your wistful sigh" = ?
"love ranger" = ?
"mike's tears" = ?

according to someone at djhistory.com one of them is george duke ("eat them jeans"?), one is the earons, one is bootsy collins ("love ranger"?) and one is invisible man's band. since i've never heard the earons or the invisible man's band i have no idea which ...

vahid (vahid), Sunday, 4 February 2007 02:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Ihave an earons 12" called 'land of hunger'. Youtube it. It's great.

jaxon (jaxon), Monday, 5 February 2007 02:37 (seventeen years ago) link

oh yeah, reminds me of much of mad max / children of men

vahid (vahid), Monday, 5 February 2007 03:20 (seventeen years ago) link

i don't think any of them are "land of hunger" though

vahid (vahid), Monday, 5 February 2007 03:26 (seventeen years ago) link

btw that gaynor reedit is the shit

vahid (vahid), Monday, 5 February 2007 03:37 (seventeen years ago) link

who is going to rx gallery on the 9th?

gaseous (gaseous), Monday, 5 February 2007 06:44 (seventeen years ago) link


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