Is the West Experiencing a Right-Wing Drift?

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i'm talking about penises here

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 November 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

ohhhhhhh

discourse stu (m bison), Friday, 27 November 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

fvd tl;dr

forget the fascism, racism, nazism, anti-semitism, misogyny and homophobia, they were the party’s raison d’être and have been out there in the open from the very beginning; it was this song, picked by one his parliamentary hopefuls, that was the actual cause of this right-wing rift - it greatly upset the Lavendery Leader for not being classical enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH1RNk8954Q

(even though in the video, Ava is lying on top of what might, for all we know, be a piano)

Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Friday, 27 November 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link

they were are the party’s raison d’être

Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Friday, 27 November 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link

picked by one his parliamentary hopefuls for their ill-fated strategy meeting last Friday, I should have added.
the guy just now defended his choice of music on one of the talk shows here, he felt it was a very appropriate song for the occasion, bless his wannabe-kingly heart (not really)

Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Friday, 27 November 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

The int’l secretary for the violent Ukrainian far-right Azov movement has been granted a fellowship in Vienna. Here’s my 2018 interview with her, which shows her connections to US white supremacists & European neo-nazis. She said Azov has global ambitions. https://t.co/zD7FH85xEQ https://t.co/Ta6sCnRDG9

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) January 11, 2021

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 11 January 2021 00:53 (three years ago) link

olena what now

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 11 January 2021 02:37 (three years ago) link

lol I also noticed her name.

Ukrainians are something else, man. Never been in a weirder and more conflicted country in my whole life. Very beautiful tho.

Pere Legume (the table is the table), Monday, 11 January 2021 02:38 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this article comes up with the term "diagonal thinking" to stand in for the incoherent mish-mash of anti-elite & pro-individual yet racist, fascist and pro-conspiracy crazed q-grift cult leader nonsense that so many people seem to have adopted lately. it rattles around in my head sometimes - is there any directionality at all to this mind set? seems more like a raw mass of nerves firing off gibberish refracted through viral meme logic, collecting anything that will have some kind of power over other vulnerable people, i.e. whatever is most available as a front for fascism, i.e. brainworms.

http://bostonreview.net/politics/william-callison-quinn-slobodian-coronapolitics-reichstag-capitol

Joses Chrust (map), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 01:15 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

This passing during this pandemic is really something: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/07/switzerland-on-course-to-ban-wearing-of-burqa-and-niqab-in-public-places

(that said, I assume some anti-maskers voted "yes" because they've recently decided any face covering = oppression)

rob, Sunday, 7 March 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link

fuck switzerland

no (Left), Sunday, 7 March 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

fondue, multi-function knives: good
Davos, racism: bad

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 7 March 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

Think that about sums it up

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 7 March 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link

My sister-in-law and her family live in Switzerland, it is very pretty but also oppressively dull and ridiculously expensive and painfully white.

incredible pant century (stevie), Sunday, 7 March 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

What the fuck
That is disgusting

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 March 2021 13:16 (three years ago) link

In these neighbourhoods, misdemeanours carry double the legal penalties in place elsewhere, and daycare is mandatory for all children over the age of one, or family allowances are withdrawn.

Seriously what the fuck.

Bruno Ganz and Babaloo Mandel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 18 March 2021 15:00 (three years ago) link

Seeing how relatively unremarked upon Denmark's drift rightward into apartheid has been illuminating (not that I know what to do about it either)

rob, Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link

Denmark has been in a very bad place with this for quite a few years now. There was also that policy about forcing refugees to sell valuables to pay for their costs to the nation for hosting them.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

Yeah, there were some 2nd cousins on my dad's side who were from Denmark, and there was a time when they visited and one of them started throwing around a racist slur, my dad told him to stop, he told my dad to fuck off, and we've never spoken to or heard from them again, absent a card when my dad's mom died. (I know, very much anecdotal, but the cousin also said, "we use this term regularly in Denmark, what's the big deal," and I remember thinking, "Denmark seems like it sucks.")

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

careful don't say "D*****k" too many times

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

President-elect of Chile replies to Taylor Swift (via @basslleroz) pic.twitter.com/yQJWO5bqHp

— Populism Updates (@PopulismUpdates) January 25, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 02:18 (two years ago) link

is the west experiencing a left-wing swift?

class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 14:44 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

fuck this shit

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7nk5z/south-korea-president-feminism-yoon-suk-yeol

symsymsym, Thursday, 10 March 2022 04:27 (two years ago) link

south korea is still the most misogynistic place i've ever been (not that i've been many places)

the world's undisputed #1 fan of 'Spud Infinity' (Karl Malone), Thursday, 10 March 2022 04:30 (two years ago) link

ugh. too familiar.

Nhex, Thursday, 10 March 2022 14:58 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

"If Meloni’s far-right forces dominate Italy’s next government, there’s concern about the support Italy will give to right-wing governments in Hungary and Poland “for their deeply conservative agendas″ amid fears about a ”democratic backsliding” in the EU, Art said.

For her part, Meloni says she will “fiercely oppose any anti-democratic drift.”"

https://apnews.com/article/religion-rome-980572acc21fe377ede26eea46be5208

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 11:20 (one year ago) link

well that's a relief then

symsymsym, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

Wonder if Italy could be out of the EU in a decade..

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 10:06 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

so uhhhh sweden and now italy in the last few weeks, huh? ppl who pay more attention to eurozone politics tell me how worried i shd be for vulnerable communities there.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 25 September 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link

Very. Greece has already implemented very aggressive anti-migrant policies and I expect the likes of Italy will follow.

I don't know about Sweden so much.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 September 2022 08:41 (one year ago) link

they’ve never seen a migrant but they hear they’re bad

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 September 2022 08:44 (one year ago) link

Of course none of these governments are any more far right than the current UK administration.

Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Monday, 26 September 2022 09:38 (one year ago) link

... something you will never hear from the UK media despite all their tut-tutting about Johnny Foreigner and their far right tendencies.

Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Monday, 26 September 2022 09:40 (one year ago) link

I guess the prospect of this coalition collapsing within two years is as high as it gets at least? Even if the oppo cannot unite in the meantime (much more difficult it seems as bloody usual).

nashwan, Monday, 26 September 2022 09:49 (one year ago) link

As long as you are pro-EU.

🇪🇺 reaction to yesterday's 🇮🇹 election, which has paved the way for #Italy's first far-right leader since Mussolini:

We are likely to see something similar to 2018 when the populist 5 Stars won - an initial effort to appeal to #Meloni's pro-EU instincts and not to isolate her. pic.twitter.com/NPoQfxJMCI

— Dave Keating (@DaveKeating) September 26, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 September 2022 09:50 (one year ago) link

im american so obv my internal calibration for right-wingedness is tuned to US frequencies, but what besides anti-immigration unites the various right wing parties of the EU and the UK? to what extent do they attack the welfare state, promote privatization and conservative theology, etc?

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link

Well, they pretty much all hate teh gays.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 26 September 2022 13:27 (one year ago) link

all these parties are remarkably similar imo. you could just copy and paste their speeches (and translate them, of course). it’s pretty much anti-immigration, anti-globalization (i.e. we should make our own stuff!) usually very anti-muslim, and occasionally there’s a whiff of antisemitism for extra credit. “make (x) great again.”

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 September 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link

If you want to look at the layers Meloni is keen on gutting reproductive rights, and an emphasis on 'normal' families.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 September 2022 14:17 (one year ago) link

This is pure Guardian.

Happy to be back in @guardian with my take on #ItalianElections 🇮🇹

In short: no reason to panic, as conditions are unfavorable. More important story is two decades of mainstreaming far-right actors and ideas.https://t.co/30G8WGrPle

— Cas Mudde (@CasMudde) September 26, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 September 2022 14:22 (one year ago) link

yeah you’re right xy. i suspect there is a certain brand of catholic conservatism at work in some of these countries that meshes fairly seamlessly with america’s evangelical right.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 September 2022 14:28 (one year ago) link

I met someone from Pakistan at a conference. I think he was based in Portugal and had traveled through Sweden or the reverse with respect to the countries involved. I think the Scandinavian countries, as well as the Baltic states and Finland, have tried to be inclusive. There is a balance between assimilation and numbers and social cohesion that creates tests on many levels.

youn, Monday, 26 September 2022 14:43 (one year ago) link

The current Swedish elections have put that idea to the test.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 26 September 2022 14:48 (one year ago) link

(yes, of course)

youn, Monday, 26 September 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link

(I guess I was impressed that he was at the conference. I think he was first author on a paper that won the best paper award. How did he get there? What supported him in that journey? etc.)

youn, Monday, 26 September 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link

So the American right is going predictably gaga over Meloni — why not, she's more photogenic than Orban — and is very incensed at any use of the word fascist to describe her. All while also being faux-naif about what she means by "financial speculators."

The European right also seems to be exactly like the contemporary American right in selling reactionary populism (re: anti-globalization/make stuff here) while being 100% wedded to trickle-down/tax cuts for the rich ASAP.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 05:04 (one year ago) link

to what extent do they attack the welfare state, promote privatization and conservative theology, etc?

i think one of the key differences between the european far-right and the american far-right is at least some of the europeans are somewhat pro-welfare, especially in comparison to the establishment centre-right parties, as long as it's not for immigrants

ufo, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 07:11 (one year ago) link

"So the American right"

And Hilary Clinton.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 27 September 2022 07:31 (one year ago) link


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