GET OUT: US politics November 2020

> This thread title turned out to be wonderfully apt

i can see december's being the same only more desperate.

Get the fuck out you balsa-wood fascist fuck

Next month's thread has to be "Don't talk to me that way."

i can't survive
without your sweet love

not sure trump could be less dignified this if he tried tbh

dignity is the old politics

Another smash success

Break: 3rd Circuit US Appeals Court rules against Trump campaign in Pennsylvania ballot lawsuit -- "Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so" https://t.co/70GaNO5WWc pic.twitter.com/06q0QDoHQA

— Mike Scarcella (@MikeScarcella) November 27, 2020

was just coming here to post that. pwned by his own appointees.

was that the judge who agreed to hear whatever today or is this a different thing

separate. the injunction was automatically stayed by the appeal to PA's Supreme Court, and they will likely act quickly and smack it down

xxpost cue Trumper saying this case was "always meant to fail in lower court" and that now it's headed directly to SCOTUS. because a way to get cases heard in SCOTUS is to file weak, frivolous cases and present them badly with sharp rebukes from lower judges regarding their legitimacy.

Which case was it where the judge ordered them to also pay Pennsylvania's legal fees?

This photo accompanies a Politico story with the headline "'He's always had a plan': The inexorable rise of Jake Sullivan" and now I'm wondering exactly when he rose inexorably from his grave.

https://static.politico.com/e0/5b/445c30ef4f238b22a2bea3142976/ap20329686581196.jpg

ugh, i can see why he's gotten far in public life. when he enters a meeting room and pulls out paperwork everyone must just be like "let's get this done as quickly as possible, whatever sullivan wants. for fuck's sake that guy is a depressing ghoul - just do whatever he asks and get it over."

Lol, Sullivan was really creepy in Phantasm.

Look we all knew there would be some lizard people on the Biden team.

honestly, i'm roleplaying as a lizard wizard in my divinity: original sin 2 campaign right now, and i resent that comparison.

sullivan is a ghoul, undead. poison heals him, and healing spells hurt him

wrap sullivan up in a healing burrito and roll him down a hill imo. at the bottom, you'll find only an empty burrito

The burrito that defined a generation

some are starting to get worried pic.twitter.com/94WH9cCAm4

— Coping MAGA (@CopingMAGA) November 27, 2020

coping maga has been fun

Can somone explain the scott adams/sugar ray thing? I dont think I get it.

recount in the specified counties in Wisconsin is done. added 138 more votes to Biden's advantage.

lol...money well spent, what a grifter.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/27/politics/milwaukee-county-certifies-election-result/index.html

In which the chairwoman of the GOP tries to rally Georgia voters for the Senate. It doesn't go well:

McDaniel is being peppered with questions about the accusations about fraud.
One suggested that the voting machines counted votes that weren’t there.
McDaniel conceded- the audit did not show that.
Crowd did not like the response.

— Ryan Nobles (@ryanobles) November 28, 2020

Another person asks- “Why should we vote in this election when we know it’s already decided?”
McDaniel responded- “It’s not!”
(This btw.. is the GOP’s worst nightmare in Georgia).

— Ryan Nobles (@ryanobles) November 28, 2020

One person from the crowd yells out as McDaniel was speaking-

“Kemp is a crook!!”

(Brian Kemp is the GOP Governor and a committed Trump supporter)

— Ryan Nobles (@ryanobles) November 28, 2020

McDaniel is now pleading with the crowd to focus their energy on the Senate race and promises of they will worry about Election fraud issues “later”.

— Ryan Nobles (@ryanobles) November 28, 2020

As McDaniel wraps up her remarks she tells the crowd she will tell the President about how fired up the crowd was. The crowd erupts in a “Trump, Trump, Trump” chant.
Remember she was here in support of Perdue and Loeffler.

— Ryan Nobles (@ryanobles) November 28, 2020

Afterward- I asked @GOPChairwoman if the President’s consistent attacking of the election process could endanger voter turnout and hurt the GOP in the runoff.
She argued the passion for Trump will translate to Perdue and Loeffler.

— Ryan Nobles (@ryanobles) November 28, 2020

more of this please

can't wait until Joe Manchin gets to be the swing vote of the Democratic party

(GA will be nice but it's still uphill)

"are you not entertained?" us politics dystopiaville, ga

knock on wood please

they're gonna draw out the Senate runoffs too, right? with lawsuits?

Someone needs to un-disenfranchise these poor idiot voters.

I think people are forgetting about the etymology of “election”. Elect comes from ecto, which means “eternal lawsuit”

Can they file a lawsuit against the voices in their heads?

...but consider White women specifically. The 2016 exit polls told us that 52 percent of White women voted for Donald Trump. As with most exit polls, that number turned out to be not quite accurate: By August 2018, a Pew Research analysis estimated that the percentage of White women who voted for Trump in 2016 was actually closer to 47 percent, compared with 45 percent for Clinton. Still not great.

Fast forward to Election Day 2020: Exit polling indicates that Trump’s support had increased among White women, with some major polls putting it at 55 percent. Though we can again expect the eventual figure to be adjusted, the reality of Trump’s support is not likely to change. And that shouldn’t surprise anyone.

White women are not a swing voting bloc. In the past 18 presidential elections, they have repeatedly voted for the Republican candidate, breaking only for Lyndon B. Johnson and for Bill Clinton’s second term. As political scientist Jane Junn wrote in 2016, “The elephant in the room is white and female, and she has been standing there since 1952.”

This is because, as a political force, White female rage has long been better at enforcing patriarchal norms than dismantling them. Why? Quite frankly, White women benefit from the status quo, while change would require burning down that system and building a new one — one where they and their children might lose the shared superiority and protection they get by being attached to powerful White men.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/11/27/white-women-vote-republican-get-used-it-democrats/

White women benefit from the status quo, while change would require burning down that system and building a new one — one where they and their children might lose the shared superiority and protection they get by being attached to powerful White men.

That analysis identifies something real and worth talking about. Still, when the political split of white women is 47% vs. 45%, it is a bit hard to treat them as a voting bloc with a unified interest in maintaining the status quo, any more than they are a unified voting bloc in favor of smashing the patriarchy. I suspect that the category "white women" encompasses such a broad swath of interests and ideologies that it is a fairly blurry lens through which to evaluate bloc voting habits.

the Democratic Party should stop wasting so much time on the lost cause of suburban White moms

that seems unsupported by the rest of the essay. and the democratic party shouldn't be giving up on any group of voters right now.

Among other things, the author Lyz Lenz appears to believe that white women are uniformly married to powerful white men and have children by them, which seems objectively wrong.

that seems unsupported by the rest of the essay. and the democratic party shouldn't be giving up on any group of voters right now.

Allocation of resources, though. Desperately chasing after blocs of voters that have been Republican forever - Miami Cubans, white women, old rich whites - is a poor strategy when you’re bleeding support among the blocs that have won you elections in the past.

I'd attach an asterix to Miami Cubans: under 40 they're winnable.

Among other things, the author Lyz Lenz appears to believe that white women are uniformly married to powerful white men and have children by them, which seems objectively wrong.

Yes. Important omission.

Married white women skew Republican. The rest... don't.

White women are not a swing voting bloc.

If a population that's consistently close to 50-50 Dem/GOP isn't a swing voting bloc, what is?

those same CNN exit polls this essay is based on, whose numbers are almost definitely wrong, has white women as 32% of the electorate. I don't think it makes any sense to write off one third of all voters.

“Fast forward to Election Day 2020: Exit polling indicates that Trump’s support had increased among White women.” 1. Stop using this exit poll data 2. Trump did not do better by eight points with white women (her figure) AND nonwhite voters! That makes no sense! https://t.co/NnxFWR1upz

— Isaac Chotiner (@IChotiner) November 28, 2020

Writing off is a bad way to phrase it. You don’t actively thumb your nose at them, but you shouldn’t let fear of white women govern messaging about police or social justice or X. They’re welcome to come along if they’d like.

Yeah I'd agree with that. It's an important discussion but the essay just seems really poorly argued.

i feel like we know that standardized ethnic categories developed for the broadcast era are not just reductive but actively misleading. i can accept that columnists are this dumb, but surely campaign staff are not?

Thinking about groups a relatively coherent is a useful way to allocate resources (in the absence of better options).

But often articles like that miss the essential fact that a vote is a vote. An white woman’s vote for a democrat is not worth more or less depending on how the demographic group she belongs to votes.

Anyway

The PA Supreme Court dismisses the case brought by U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly that sought to overturn last year’s law creating no-excuse mail voting and to throw out those mail ballots cast in this election.

This is the case the Commonwealth Court had earlier blocked certification in. pic.twitter.com/nO7Glvu46Y

— Jonathan Lai 🙊 賴柏羽 (@Elaijuh) November 28, 2020

They successfully cleared a path to the US Supreme Court! Victory is closer than ever!