Is the West Experiencing a Right-Wing Drift?

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It's #Thanksgiving, I've got the day off and I've only got two things on my to do list:

Roast a turkey
Explain the FvD meltdown to all my non-Dutch followers.

Let's do this. #FVDsoap pic.twitter.com/X2Yb3F8PCY

— Molly Quell (@MollyQuell) November 26, 2020

This thread is too good not to share, and it's in English so you all can enjoy it. It's about the crumbling and complete implosion of Dutch far-right/alt-right/nazi party Forum voor Democratie, that's been happening the last couple of days. You simply love to see it. It's a long thread, but stick with it, you'll thank me later.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 26 November 2020 13:54 (three years ago) link

I gotta confess I couldn’t follow that at all, English or not

is right unfortunately (silby), Thursday, 26 November 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

I lost track of who's who in the zoo somewhere but basically it seems weird creepy Nazis can faction and split as hard as anyone else.

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Thursday, 26 November 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

That's what I got, too.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Thursday, 26 November 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

I gotta confess I couldn’t follow that at all, English or not

― is right unfortunately (silby), Thursday, November 26, 2020 9:27 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah, I think you do actually need to know dutch politics for this to be meaningful

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 26 November 2020 18:08 (three years ago) link

On the tragedy/farce tip, which of the Nazi/alt right splinters will become the new Strasserites?

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Thursday, 26 November 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

Yeah I get it wasn't easy to follow, but between lying on a piano, sniffing lavender and saying "what is it you guys have against anti-semitism? most people I know are anti-semites!" well, that kind of gives you an idea of what we're dealing with here.

A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 26 November 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

what did lavendar do to deserve any of this

fleet doxes (map), Thursday, 26 November 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

i'm working through it. i have to admit i paused to consider this one at greater length!

Baudet installs a piano in his office at parliament. pic.twitter.com/8ralHulgmk

— Molly Quell (@MollyQuell) November 26, 2020

Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 November 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link

Pictured: Right wing drift

That basically brings us to this very moment unless something happened while I was typing, which it probably did.

I leave you with this photo that Baudet posted on his Instagram. pic.twitter.com/yTsXIbNVUf

— Molly Quell (@MollyQuell) November 26, 2020

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 27 November 2020 09:28 (three years ago) link

I'm grateful his right wing hasn't drifted any further

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link

some people's wing drifts to the right. mine has always drifted a bit to the left

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 November 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

it really depends on which side of the crotch you're accustomed to stuffing your wing down

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 November 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

i'm talking about penises here

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 November 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

ohhhhhhh

discourse stu (m bison), Friday, 27 November 2020 20:56 (three years ago) link

fvd tl;dr

forget the fascism, racism, nazism, anti-semitism, misogyny and homophobia, they were the party’s raison d’être and have been out there in the open from the very beginning; it was this song, picked by one his parliamentary hopefuls, that was the actual cause of this right-wing rift - it greatly upset the Lavendery Leader for not being classical enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jH1RNk8954Q

(even though in the video, Ava is lying on top of what might, for all we know, be a piano)

Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Friday, 27 November 2020 22:09 (three years ago) link

they were are the party’s raison d’être

Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Friday, 27 November 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link

picked by one his parliamentary hopefuls for their ill-fated strategy meeting last Friday, I should have added.
the guy just now defended his choice of music on one of the talk shows here, he felt it was a very appropriate song for the occasion, bless his wannabe-kingly heart (not really)

Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Friday, 27 November 2020 22:33 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

The int’l secretary for the violent Ukrainian far-right Azov movement has been granted a fellowship in Vienna. Here’s my 2018 interview with her, which shows her connections to US white supremacists & European neo-nazis. She said Azov has global ambitions. https://t.co/zD7FH85xEQ https://t.co/Ta6sCnRDG9

— Christopher Miller (@ChristopherJM) January 11, 2021

underminer of twenty years of excellent contribution to this borad (dan m), Monday, 11 January 2021 00:53 (three years ago) link

olena what now

sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Monday, 11 January 2021 02:37 (three years ago) link

lol I also noticed her name.

Ukrainians are something else, man. Never been in a weirder and more conflicted country in my whole life. Very beautiful tho.

Pere Legume (the table is the table), Monday, 11 January 2021 02:38 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

this article comes up with the term "diagonal thinking" to stand in for the incoherent mish-mash of anti-elite & pro-individual yet racist, fascist and pro-conspiracy crazed q-grift cult leader nonsense that so many people seem to have adopted lately. it rattles around in my head sometimes - is there any directionality at all to this mind set? seems more like a raw mass of nerves firing off gibberish refracted through viral meme logic, collecting anything that will have some kind of power over other vulnerable people, i.e. whatever is most available as a front for fascism, i.e. brainworms.

http://bostonreview.net/politics/william-callison-quinn-slobodian-coronapolitics-reichstag-capitol

Joses Chrust (map), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 01:15 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

This passing during this pandemic is really something: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/07/switzerland-on-course-to-ban-wearing-of-burqa-and-niqab-in-public-places

(that said, I assume some anti-maskers voted "yes" because they've recently decided any face covering = oppression)

rob, Sunday, 7 March 2021 18:21 (three years ago) link

fuck switzerland

no (Left), Sunday, 7 March 2021 18:27 (three years ago) link

fondue, multi-function knives: good
Davos, racism: bad

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 7 March 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

Think that about sums it up

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 7 March 2021 18:55 (three years ago) link

My sister-in-law and her family live in Switzerland, it is very pretty but also oppressively dull and ridiculously expensive and painfully white.

incredible pant century (stevie), Sunday, 7 March 2021 19:34 (three years ago) link

What the fuck
That is disgusting

covidsbundlertanze op. 6 (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 18 March 2021 13:16 (three years ago) link

In these neighbourhoods, misdemeanours carry double the legal penalties in place elsewhere, and daycare is mandatory for all children over the age of one, or family allowances are withdrawn.

Seriously what the fuck.

Bruno Ganz and Babaloo Mandel (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 18 March 2021 15:00 (three years ago) link

Seeing how relatively unremarked upon Denmark's drift rightward into apartheid has been illuminating (not that I know what to do about it either)

rob, Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:42 (three years ago) link

Denmark has been in a very bad place with this for quite a few years now. There was also that policy about forcing refugees to sell valuables to pay for their costs to the nation for hosting them.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Thursday, 18 March 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

Yeah, there were some 2nd cousins on my dad's side who were from Denmark, and there was a time when they visited and one of them started throwing around a racist slur, my dad told him to stop, he told my dad to fuck off, and we've never spoken to or heard from them again, absent a card when my dad's mom died. (I know, very much anecdotal, but the cousin also said, "we use this term regularly in Denmark, what's the big deal," and I remember thinking, "Denmark seems like it sucks.")

it's like edging for your mind (the table is the table), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:28 (three years ago) link

careful don't say "D*****k" too many times

Canon in Deez (silby), Thursday, 18 March 2021 20:34 (three years ago) link

ten months pass...

President-elect of Chile replies to Taylor Swift (via @basslleroz) pic.twitter.com/yQJWO5bqHp

— Populism Updates (@PopulismUpdates) January 25, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 02:18 (two years ago) link

is the west experiencing a left-wing swift?

class project pat (m bison), Tuesday, 25 January 2022 14:44 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

fuck this shit

https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7nk5z/south-korea-president-feminism-yoon-suk-yeol

symsymsym, Thursday, 10 March 2022 04:27 (two years ago) link

south korea is still the most misogynistic place i've ever been (not that i've been many places)

the world's undisputed #1 fan of 'Spud Infinity' (Karl Malone), Thursday, 10 March 2022 04:30 (two years ago) link

ugh. too familiar.

Nhex, Thursday, 10 March 2022 14:58 (two years ago) link

five months pass...

"If Meloni’s far-right forces dominate Italy’s next government, there’s concern about the support Italy will give to right-wing governments in Hungary and Poland “for their deeply conservative agendas″ amid fears about a ”democratic backsliding” in the EU, Art said.

For her part, Meloni says she will “fiercely oppose any anti-democratic drift.”"

https://apnews.com/article/religion-rome-980572acc21fe377ede26eea46be5208

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 11:20 (one year ago) link

well that's a relief then

symsymsym, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link

Wonder if Italy could be out of the EU in a decade..

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 17 August 2022 10:06 (one year ago) link

one month passes...

so uhhhh sweden and now italy in the last few weeks, huh? ppl who pay more attention to eurozone politics tell me how worried i shd be for vulnerable communities there.

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Sunday, 25 September 2022 23:43 (one year ago) link

Very. Greece has already implemented very aggressive anti-migrant policies and I expect the likes of Italy will follow.

I don't know about Sweden so much.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 September 2022 08:41 (one year ago) link

they’ve never seen a migrant but they hear they’re bad

Tracer Hand, Monday, 26 September 2022 08:44 (one year ago) link

Of course none of these governments are any more far right than the current UK administration.

Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Monday, 26 September 2022 09:38 (one year ago) link

... something you will never hear from the UK media despite all their tut-tutting about Johnny Foreigner and their far right tendencies.

Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Monday, 26 September 2022 09:40 (one year ago) link

I guess the prospect of this coalition collapsing within two years is as high as it gets at least? Even if the oppo cannot unite in the meantime (much more difficult it seems as bloody usual).

nashwan, Monday, 26 September 2022 09:49 (one year ago) link

As long as you are pro-EU.

🇪🇺 reaction to yesterday's 🇮🇹 election, which has paved the way for #Italy's first far-right leader since Mussolini:

We are likely to see something similar to 2018 when the populist 5 Stars won - an initial effort to appeal to #Meloni's pro-EU instincts and not to isolate her. pic.twitter.com/NPoQfxJMCI

— Dave Keating (@DaveKeating) September 26, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 26 September 2022 09:50 (one year ago) link

im american so obv my internal calibration for right-wingedness is tuned to US frequencies, but what besides anti-immigration unites the various right wing parties of the EU and the UK? to what extent do they attack the welfare state, promote privatization and conservative theology, etc?

terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 26 September 2022 13:13 (one year ago) link


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