Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?

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we'd all hope that our friends would stick by us if we were getting pilloried on twitter, but so much of her behaviour and bigoted writing has been beyond the pale - why pretend otherwise?

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 11:06 (three years ago) link

Argh, I know him a little and this will massively disappoint everyone I know who is involved with oD.

scampopo (suzy), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 11:07 (three years ago) link

I have liked a lot of his writing over the years, if not always agreeing with it, but he definitely has a decent rep to protect

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 11:09 (three years ago) link

Wagon-circling is to be expected but Moore has been a rambling embarrassment for years.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 11:17 (three years ago) link

It's all fair and well to stick by your pals but friends don't let friends become bitter transphobes

boxedjoy, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 11:19 (three years ago) link

Suzanne Moore really did say “Paki Lover” with all her chai tea chest. But cool, she’s the victim in all this and liberal media doesn’t have racism problem against Brown and Black people and they’re fully represented in our media.

— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) November 25, 2020

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 11:26 (three years ago) link

what's really tickling me right now is that fox-clubbing lunatic in the windmill becoming a leading voice against the likes of transphobes like Moore. Going by his current trajectory, Joylon will be a full-tankie by January!

calzino, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 11:30 (three years ago) link

Windmill Jolyon says (!):

Moreover, it appears as though Comment is Free was blocked from carrying a piece in support of the Good Law Project litigation. This is not a comment on its younger staff, but I would say the editorial line of the Guardian is more transphobic than that of the Mail.

— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) November 25, 2020

scampus fugit (gyac), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 11:44 (three years ago) link

The Guardian has recently refused content in support of trans women from a group of leading feminist cis women. It advances the agenda of (the polls show) a small minority of privileged cis women against one of the most vulnerable groups in society. I am so ashamed of it.

— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) November 25, 2020

scampus fugit (gyac), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link

oh for god’s sake pic.twitter.com/KGMv5vHCzn

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) November 25, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 11:57 (three years ago) link

tiny violin gif x1000

Naughty Boys Hoo! (Tom D.), Wednesday, 25 November 2020 12:54 (three years ago) link

Slow day for Moore as she only appears on the front page of one national newspaper, The Daily Mail, talking about being silenced, this morning.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 26 November 2020 09:09 (three years ago) link

As I hate this rag (and this is a sorta nothing gesture as there are plenty of transphobes and racists left on their books) I really like how much she is really sticking the boot in, and using every single right-wing outlet to do it.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 November 2020 09:25 (three years ago) link

I assume they'll just take it on the chin but it'd be interesting to see some kind of response from The Guardian.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 26 November 2020 09:33 (three years ago) link

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/nov/25/got-to-make-cuts-somewhere-maltby-gives-sunak-benefit-of-the-doubt

Boris Johnson started talking about levelling up back in the summer. But the phrase hasn’t filtered up to Maltby just yet and the voters of tomorrow do not appear to be growing up with a sense of north-south injustice. Does London get too much government money? Sixteen-year-old Jemma Frost, walking home from sixth form college, wasn’t sure: “The south has bigger cities than the north, doesn’t it, so they will need more.”
She too thought Johnson had done a good job: “He’s tried his best.” There is no stigma against the Conservatives among her generation, she suggested. The miners’ strike was 20 years before they were born: “It’s only older people who are still angry about it.”

Round the corner at Kell’s Kitchen it was another slow afternoon. The corner cafe is takeaway only during the second lockdown and many of their enormous sandwiches – the special contains three rashers of bacon, four sausages, three eggs, beans and mushrooms – are difficult to eat on the hoof.

The owner, Tracey Taylor – Kell is her daughter – is just about making ends meet, but times are tough. Normally she delivers to local salons, but they’re all shut. Half the workers on the nearby industrial estate are furloughed, so they don’t need feeding. “Business is rubbish,” she sighed, behind a Perspex screen and a mask.

Yet like many people in this former Labour stronghold, Taylor didn’t blame Johnson for her predicament. “I think he’s done quite well. I feel quite sorry for him, he’s had it tough,” she said. Would Labour have done a better job? “Probably not.”

Bilge-tier journalism

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 26 November 2020 09:35 (three years ago) link

really crying tears for all these "working class" tory-voting business owners who are having such a hard time of it.

calzino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 09:38 (three years ago) link

are they actually real people or are they just fictional characters from all the John Harris safaris that he abandoned for being too on the nose?

calzino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 09:42 (three years ago) link

It's just, she evidences 1 6th form student, after the sentence "But the phrase hasn’t filtered up to Maltby just yet and the voters of tomorrow do not appear to be growing up with a sense of north-south injustice", and 1 cafe-owner who she has clearly ascertained in advance is a Tory voter.

Fuckin journalism, how does it work?

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 26 November 2020 09:44 (three years ago) link

Of Sunak’s announcements on Wednesday, it was the cut to the foreign aid budget which Iqbal thought would go down best locally. “I’ve lived in this country for about 30 years and as somebody coloured, you are still classed as a foreigner,” he mused, suggesting he had never quite been accepted locally, despite also running a curry house around the corner for years. “It might be good for the average British folk if the government is giving more to people here than abroad.”

-_-

nashwan, Thursday, 26 November 2020 09:52 (three years ago) link

People are misinformed and ignorant about politics? There are no lessons for a journalist to learn here!

scampus fugit (gyac), Thursday, 26 November 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link

"curry house" is annoyingly patronising from a Guardian journalist. call it a restaurant. like "builders' tea"

mahb, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:04 (three years ago) link

They don't actually have restaurants north of Stratford-on-Avon though, don't be silly.

ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:10 (three years ago) link

ogmor come back to ilx we are talking about the north!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:11 (three years ago) link

Pidd is the very worst - even her name sounds like it should be onomatopoeia for a particularly desultory and condescending journalistic squib.

Piedie Gimbel, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:13 (three years ago) link

is this not the lady who used her small business owning landlord pal as a labour-turned-tory source

reggae kraftwerk (||||||||), Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:14 (three years ago) link

we just have gravel pits where we feight to the death for mouldy cobs of bread up here

calzino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:19 (three years ago) link

Would really need a worst Guardian writer poll. Too many to choose from.

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:23 (three years ago) link

is this not the lady who used her small business owning landlord pal as a labour-turned-tory source

― reggae kraftwerk (||||||||), Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:14 (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Twentymans. yeah. She obviously noticed all the criticism and decided the best thing to do was double down on her approach.

Am I wrong in thinking the implied message behind all these pieces is "Keith, pssst, this is what you need to do?"

glumdalclitch, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:24 (three years ago) link

turning a big dial taht says "Racism" on it and constantly looking back at the audience for approval like a contestant on the price is right

— wint (@dril) March 15, 2017

Neil S, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:38 (three years ago) link

dril has her number!

calzino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 10:48 (three years ago) link

there's always a dril tweet

Neil S, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link

There’s always that dril tweet tbh

Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:31 (three years ago) link

"my mario tip: Anything is possible in the world of Mario." - my mario tip

— wint (@dril) August 4, 2014

mark s, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:38 (three years ago) link

Who is the dril person? I have never known.

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link

Who is the dril person? I have never known.


pinefox, i salute you.

Fizzles, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

Who is the dril person? I have never known.


pinefox i salute you.

Fizzles, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:53 (three years ago) link

twice.

Fizzles, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:54 (three years ago) link

the old 2 Goomba salute

Bandscamp Fryday (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link

Can't believe dril book hasn't got an ILB thread

calzino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 11:55 (three years ago) link

I was given the dril book last Christmas as a novelty present, would love to see it

scampus fugit (gyac), Thursday, 26 November 2020 12:15 (three years ago) link

I have seen the person's tweets before, but don't know who they are or where they are coming from, literally or figuratively, really.

the pinefox, Thursday, 26 November 2020 12:29 (three years ago) link

That's a relatively straightforward dril tweet (the 'Racism' one). Most of them make me feel old and confused. Which may well be the point.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 26 November 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

Well here's the news daddio, he's just been denounced as passé and a total square on the twitter thread!

calzino, Thursday, 26 November 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link

Where's my pitchfork!

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 26 November 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link

There’s always that dril tweet tbh

― Gab B. Nebsit (wins), Thursday, November 26, 2020 11:31 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

it is the gift that keeps on giving if you're a Graun hack or a politician

Neil S, Thursday, 26 November 2020 13:31 (three years ago) link

I have googled 'dril' before but tbh the explanations left me none the wiser

plax (ico), Thursday, 26 November 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link

dril hasn’t been the same since he sold out

Left, Thursday, 26 November 2020 13:51 (three years ago) link

Guardian Christmas quiz of 'dril tweet or Adrian Chiles standfirst?' pls.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 26 November 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link

lmao

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 26 November 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link

Moore also on substack

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 26 November 2020 21:58 (three years ago) link


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