I don’t get your “only lightly coded” reference, forks. care to explain?
― Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 06:51 (three years ago) link
A few of the songs are fairly explicit, but the lyrics aren’t much different from what’s in Dangerous Woman. A difference, I think, is that these lyrics sound like a woman wrote them; whereas some of DW’s “sex lyrics” sound like a man wrote them for her to sing (...tho I don’t know if that’s actually the case).
― yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:23 (three years ago) link
At any rate, these lyrics are more “in her voice“; and she also no longer needs a male rapper in the middle of the song to drive the point home (much as I love Future’s verse on “Everyday”).
― yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:26 (three years ago) link
xp to bc: I don't want to speak to Maura's intentions (and I hope she'll swing by to discuss!), but "even when Grande is singing of self-doubt and uncertainty, she’s fully in her feelings, and knowing that pop can bring a release" seems about as close as Time was likely to let her get to saying that Grande is coming from a complex space but finds it easier to come, so to speak, in the less complex landscape of "pop."
I dunno that I really got into Dangerous Woman (sweetener was probably when i really started hearing Grande) and I'd need to give it another listen, but my memory of it was Grande predominantly playing to the male gaze, whereas four years later she seems to be owning who she is pretty fully. Or basically what you said while i was typing!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:33 (three years ago) link
forks is talking about “Maura's excellent and only lightly coded coverage in Time” tho
― Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:34 (three years ago) link
yeah, that was the point i was making. Ariana's tongue-in-cheek lack of disinterest in coding at all ("means i wanna 69 with you / no shit" and basically all of Shut Up) is part of what makes the album sound so refreshing to me.
and thanks for the plaudits surm
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:36 (three years ago) link
sorry, my previous post was to morrisp, I misunderstood their posts as a reply to my question. (I don’t xp very well when I’ve barely waken up!)
― Running up that hill but fleeting (a deal with Gop) (breastcrawl), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 07:41 (three years ago) link
Yes, sorry to be confusing, I was responding to the observation about lyrics generally (not the question about the review).
― yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link
I actually think it's kinda funny how she sings "Open my mind for ya" (in "Nasty")... like, your mind was already "open" back in "Dangerous Woman," that song explored the theme very thoroughly... what new crazy shit is this skinny real-estate guy into, lol
― yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
I guess a way to spin it (per our discussion above) is that she is sort of re-writing those songs from her own "p.o.v."
― yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 16:27 (three years ago) link
All the "callback" lyrics are maybe the one thing about this album that I'm not totally in love with... but she talks in that YouTube interview about how she made a point of doing that, how the connections are meaningful to her, etc.
― yes m!ch!gan - the feeling's forever (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
IMO, “Obvious” is (secretly) the best song on the whole album. It’s a total singalong jam, in a classic, straight-up R&B style... gives me so much joy.
― wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Saturday, 5 December 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
3435 is breezily recognizable and so pretty, a good sonic reference to tu nxt indeed
― surm, Monday, 7 December 2020 01:46 (three years ago) link
also off the table thoEverything is just so INSTANT and lush
― surm, Monday, 7 December 2020 01:55 (three years ago) link
I wish I could adequately express my love for this wonderful album!
The moment in "Off the Table" when The Weeknd sings, I was toxic, then I was toxic to someone else... – and Ari comes in on "someone else" – gives me goosebumps...
― wet tip hen ax (egg drop mix) (morrisp), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link
I might have to throw "off the table" a vote tbh
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 9 December 2020 05:49 (three years ago) link
Omg SAMEExactly when I made this post lol
― surm, Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link
xp
:)
― good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Thursday, 10 December 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link
she is newly engaged... wishing her happiness (of course), but also hope it inspires a fresh round of songwriting/recording!
― good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Sunday, 20 December 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link
New documentary looks fun! I never watch those things but it does look neat
― surm, Wednesday, 23 December 2020 00:09 (three years ago) link
It’s basically a well photographed show on the tour, plus some fluffy behind-the-scenes stuff.
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Wednesday, 23 December 2020 00:14 (three years ago) link
Ariana sure has a lot of best friends
― self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link
Lol, I assumed (hoped) that was an in-joke
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link
It was cool that they showed her rehearsing “Monopoly” w/Victoria, but I wish they had filmed one of the two actual performances of that song on the tour.
― Qui-Gon's Noble End (morrisp), Saturday, 26 December 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link
deluxe ed., teased:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtLrcvfUYAAUNsL?format=jpg&name=medium
― excuse me while I fold my pants (morrisp), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 02:04 (three years ago) link
ayyy
― stimmy stimmy yah (Simon H.), Tuesday, 2 February 2021 02:12 (three years ago) link
Snap, the other tracks are all new (not remixes):
positions deluxe friday 🤍 which of the new additions are u claiming ? https://t.co/FpkiHYLFqt pic.twitter.com/IegiKqjjKz— Ariana Grande (@ArianaGrande) February 15, 2021
― babe for the weekend (morrisp), Monday, 15 February 2021 20:29 (three years ago) link
the new traxx are lushhhh
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Friday, 19 February 2021 05:49 (three years ago) link
"main thing" is positively aquatic
― stuck in the version layer (morrisp), Friday, 19 February 2021 05:55 (three years ago) link
these are all great, especially "test drive"
― ufo, Friday, 19 February 2021 11:21 (three years ago) link
She has a new Vevo performance thing happening – first clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLFvbwrWLQY
― search term: buttrock (morrisp), Monday, 21 June 2021 23:48 (two years ago) link
When the news broke, a new verse on a remix of a 6-year-old Weeknd song seemed like the most meager of offerings (in the middle of this lengthy, Wicked-induced spell of no new recordings) – but she does sound great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ-qToZUybM
― unknown blues singer (morrisp), Friday, 24 February 2023 19:09 (one year ago) link
why does this even exist lol
― ufo, Friday, 24 February 2023 23:21 (one year ago) link
Someone said the original song has been blowing up on TikTok recently (this the remix); don’t know if that’s accurate
― unknown blues singer (morrisp), Friday, 24 February 2023 23:24 (one year ago) link
*thus
it’s a top 10 hit and was recently the number one song at radio
― J0rdan S., Friday, 24 February 2023 23:33 (one year ago) link
tiktok randomly making hits out of older songs is still so weird
― ufo, Friday, 24 February 2023 23:52 (one year ago) link
Modern version of Levi's ads?
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 27 February 2023 19:34 (one year ago) link
True heads will pay $0.69 for the a cappella version
― unknown blues singer (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 March 2023 23:34 (one year ago) link
Her new studio pics are v funny (including the vid that pretends to have audio, but is silent). She's back, baby
― This field is required (morrisp), Friday, 8 December 2023 17:17 (four months ago) link
Was there ever a poll of the Sweetener/Thank U Next era?
Here is the all time Ari Top 30 from a recent r/ariheads Reddit poll of faves
1 god is a woman2 no tears left to cry 3 Pov4 everytime 5 goodnight n go6 in my head7 thank u next 8 better off9 ghostin 10 needy 11 dangerous woman12 into you 13 positions 14 nasty 15 bad idea 16 love language 17 greedy 18 safety net 19 get well soon 20 34+35 21 the way22 one last time23 7 rings24 bloodline 25 breathin 26 rem27 sometimes28 off the table 29 break your heart right back 30 moonlight
― piscesx, Friday, 8 December 2023 17:46 (four months ago) link
that's a real weird list
― ufo, Friday, 8 December 2023 17:55 (four months ago) link
Weird list for sure ("GIAW" is one of my least fave tracks, fwiw)
― This field is required (morrisp), Friday, 8 December 2023 18:17 (four months ago) link
love to see "POV" getting its due
i've learned over time that my interpretation of her catalog is much different than the majority of her stans, in that dangerous woman & sweetener represent the clear valley to me
i think i just like when she's making R&B music bcuz i've always seen her albums as
1. thank u next2. yours truly
3. positions
4. my everything
5. dangerous woman6. sweetener
sweetener in particular to me just feels like a lost era -- everyone was super excited about her becoming a true tabloid celebrity and she made her first gesture towards auteur status w/ the pharrell stuff, pitchfork jumped on board (her only album given an 8.0+ lmao) but that album was always flat to me, she jumped on the pharrell train far too late & honestly i haven't heard "no tears left to cry" or "god is a woman" out in the world in a long ass time. dangerous woman was always pretty mid to me too, i love "be alright" but even "so into you" leaves me cold. i can never match the energy and spirit of the other girls when that one comes on at the party, i just don't have it in me
positions was always in a tough spot of following up her obvious career apex but i still fight over that album to this day -- it's one of the better R&B albums of the decade, which is kinda fucked up but not really ariana's fault
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 9 December 2023 18:14 (four months ago) link
I have a slightly different “POV”… I love Sweetener (tho agree “GIAW” is its valley), but Positions is also my favorite at the end of the day. I don’t think TUN is quite as strong overall as either of those albums, but it does have some of her best songs (in addition to maybe her worst!: “7 Rings”).“DW” is terrific musically, but the lyrics let it down in spots. “So Into You” is its weakest track… it’s fine but could have gone to any artist, it doesn’t feel distinct to Ariana or really showcase her talent.
― This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 9 December 2023 18:24 (four months ago) link
I tend to think of TUN as a world-class EP that’s sort of “padded out” to fill an album, which is ok, it’s a special kind of thing.
― This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 9 December 2023 18:27 (four months ago) link
“So Into You” is its weakest track
wtf
― ivy., Saturday, 9 December 2023 18:35 (four months ago) link
I mean, comparatively! It’s still a good trackThe lyrics to “Greedy” are cringe, but it’s a bop
― This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 9 December 2023 18:51 (four months ago) link
(and highlights her vocal ability better, IMO)
― This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 9 December 2023 18:56 (four months ago) link