How stuck in your musical comfort zone(s) are you?

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The response to that is "everyone is different, there is no 'one size fits all' methodology for people write and/or perform music"

DJP, Monday, 23 November 2020 21:03 (three years ago) link

Some of the best musicians I know listen to the least amount of music, especially new music. :/ Partly that might have to do with not wanting to listen to music in their 'off' time, or not being able to enjoy it anymore without analyzing it. Also depression.

It's the djs who listen to the most music (although that might be more functional-style listening than for pure pleasure).

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 23 November 2020 21:10 (three years ago) link

Right. It is a different thing to listen to music for enjoyment as opposed to for the purpose of performing it.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 23 November 2020 21:15 (three years ago) link

I know a number of artists in different mediums who isolate themselves creatively when working on a project and make a point not to consume stuff from that medium when creating, for fear of having it mess with their inspiration or influence them in ways they dont want.

Now that I think about it, among the unscientific sample of 'working artists i know', the ratio of those who dont seem to bother keeping up with new stuff in their medium vs those who do is probably 2:1 or higher

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Monday, 23 November 2020 21:17 (three years ago) link

If you work in music, a lot of music reminds you of "work" so it doesn't hit the pleasure centres. I listen to maybe four-to-six albums a week on average.

Also, deriving inspiration from other artist's music (or work from other genres) doesn't require immersion. The inspiration is often instantaneous. I once went to see a band, they played a new song as their first song, I loved the chord progression so much that I immediately left the show and went home and wrote a song with a similar chord progression

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 23 November 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link

DJP - that's true but I wanted to hear what works for you guys or have any special philosophies and paths about it.

But I'd quibble that sometimes you can tell quickly from some musicians that they need to listen to more kinds of things. Perhaps more than any other type of artist I think visual artists (particularly comics, anime, commercial illustrators) are in dire need of more influences or just studying life.

flamboyant goon tie included - Is that 4 to 6 different albums played regularly or 4 to 6 albums listened to in total?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 23 November 2020 21:31 (three years ago) link

lol fgti, I love the idea of you trying to convince them later that you walked out because you loved it. But I've had similar experiences, it can just be a little spark from hearing a random moment.

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 23 November 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link

I'm with fgti above. I spend weeks with familiar stuff and others trying new stuff.

On headphones/earphones I can really recommend the Cambridge Audio in-ear wireless. Amazing sound for a low price and long battery life. I rarely leave the house without them.

In lockdown I've been going for long walks - about 10-15 miles thru the city three or four times a week. Which has been great for getting to know new stuff and revisit neglected albums.

Duke, Monday, 23 November 2020 22:11 (three years ago) link

lol I can just picture table FP’ing every single pro-headphone post.

pomenitul, Monday, 23 November 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link

@ Robert, 4 to 6 albums total. Today I am planning to listen to Can "Delay" while I make an overnight bolognese with Beyond Ground Beef

As for headphones, seeing as I generally work cans-on I seldom use them recreationally.

flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 23 November 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link

lol I can just picture table FP’ing every single pro-headphone post.

― pomenitul, Monday, November 23, 2020 2:13 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

jfc how many times do i need to acknowledge/clarify that my anti-headphone stance is very personal and insane.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Monday, 23 November 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link

haha

speaking of musical comfort zones in that context, boy do I hate hearing someone blasting those bluetooth speakers as I walk the dog through nature

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Monday, 23 November 2020 23:34 (three years ago) link

is "beyond ground beef" when you just keep grinding it?

好 now 烧烤 (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 23 November 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link

I would say "laab" but technically that is minced not ground

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Monday, 23 November 2020 23:41 (three years ago) link

I'm working on perfecting a vegetarian version of the sauce for a friend I'm bubbled with

Beyond Beef does sound like a nice state of being tho

flamboyant goon tie included, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 00:01 (three years ago) link

do you really notice that an overnight simmer has an effect on the chemical structure in a way that's discernible from, say, three hours — in a way that pork or beef would surely break down more ?

budo jeru, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

#onethread

pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 00:48 (three years ago) link

lol, and yes

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link

comfort zones, hm ... well, I am listening to a "new" downtempo album released because someone found a DAT from 1995 in a box somewhere, thinking to myself "this is the best shit" ... so ...

lukas, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link

is that the new kruder and dorfmeister?!?

the late great, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link

you know the answer already

lukas, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 03:37 (three years ago) link

:-D

the late great, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 03:38 (three years ago) link

It's pretty good, not quite on par with their best, but it makes me hanker after new material.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 04:27 (three years ago) link

Ugh, reviewing old Pazz and Jop polls there is definitely a Before and After point when I stopped caring. Or maybe I was still keeping up but in retrospect I don’t care so much.

Robert Gotopieces (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:36 (three years ago) link

the only new albums i have bought in 2020 are :
Cabaret Voltaire, The Black Dog, Gorillaz, Kompakt Total 20, and the African Head Charge boxset.
therefore, i would say that my answer to this question is : Very stuck in my comfort zone.
of course when charity shops are open then my listening can be dictated by the random finds, but that's a different story.

mark e, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link

Send me your address and I'll post you my annual compilation, Mark.

djh, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

I'd been pondering what we mean by "comfort zone" and I don't think listening to one genre is necessarily sticking in a comfort zone.

djh, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:07 (three years ago) link

that's very kind of you djh.
my ile email is still valid if its a digital release ?

i should clarify - those albums i listed are new 2020 releases i have actually bought.
for some strange reason, i am still on a few record label digital mailing lists, so have heard quite a bit more, but to be honest, nothing has hit me as much as diving into the extensive On-U/Kompakt/CV/tBD back catalogues.
(during the summer i also hit my acid jazz/talkin' loud/mo'wax archives hard as well, but that stuff only works for me when the sun is out)

hence my answer to the thread is : yes, i am stuck in my comfort zone, and given the shitstorm of 2020, i have no problem with that, as it been a really enjoyable experience.

mark e, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

Oh, I could just post a link on ILXOR somewhere. I was thinking a CD-R because that's my comfort zone.

In fact, here you go:

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/22k5Bz4p7K82ViTpJJ4eid

May change between now and Xmas.

djh, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link

do you really notice that an overnight simmer has an effect on the chemical structure in a way that's discernible from, say, three hours — in a way that pork or beef would surely break down more ?

In general I prefer the original lineup but I'm willing to listen to certain side-projects

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 25 November 2020 04:03 (three years ago) link


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