2020 nba offseason draft free agency etc

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waiting for ainge to leak all the bigly deals he almost closed

micah, Saturday, 21 November 2020 20:53 (three years ago) link

also looking forward to signing hayward to the vet min in 2025 when he comes home to the house he bought in fishers where his kids go to school where both his extended families live in the state he grew up in

micah, Saturday, 21 November 2020 20:58 (three years ago) link

is atlanta...good now?


I think the biggest improvement for the Hawks will be having Capela out there. Sounds like they may be trying to move Collins at some point which I hate but if you’ve got Trae out there you better have a 4 who can protect the rim, especially if you’re paying the max for him

Heez, Saturday, 21 November 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

Why are you guys acting like Hayward is washed

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 21 November 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

i don’t think he’s washed but giving a good but not great player with a concerning injury history $30m a year is bad business

J0rdan S., Saturday, 21 November 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

even if hayward is good next year and like decent the year after that, what exactly does this accomplish for the hornets? lamelo is going to suck for a while and they have no other talent. it’s just another team shortcutting the rebuild.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 21 November 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link

yeah if hayward can find some health hes an allstar level player but even in that best case scenario im not sure it really makes sense for the hornets

lag∞n, Saturday, 21 November 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

would have been fine as 2/60

micah, Saturday, 21 November 2020 22:24 (three years ago) link

In retrospect the bucks should have kept John Hammond

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 21 November 2020 23:46 (three years ago) link

Simply indefensible. pic.twitter.com/58aCb9JYN0

— sqr (@squaresense) November 21, 2020

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 21 November 2020 23:47 (three years ago) link

have the celtics found an nba player to replace hayward yet

ciderpress, Saturday, 21 November 2020 23:49 (three years ago) link

Aaron Nesmith is the guy if he’s healthy

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 21 November 2020 23:54 (three years ago) link

yeah it's amateur hour in the bucks front office.

call all destroyer, Saturday, 21 November 2020 23:56 (three years ago) link

so is giannis signing that extension still or what

J0rdan S., Sunday, 22 November 2020 00:43 (three years ago) link

so after all this, the bucks traded every draft pick under the sun for jrue holiday, ended up keeping pat c and dante d — both of whom looked unplayable vs miami — and added dj augustin (worse than george hill) and bobby portis (not helping you in the playoffs), and hard capped themselves? am i missing anything?

J0rdan S., Sunday, 22 November 2020 00:49 (three years ago) link

not commenting on oubre as a player but suns getting jae crowder for three years @ the MLE shows why he was expendable to them in order to get cp3. they still have youth on the wing and for the next few years have a player that is cheaper than oubre and not any worse. really insane they didn’t take another wing with their draft pick this year tho, james jones’ drafting is the most unpredictable thing in the NBA rn

J0rdan S., Sunday, 22 November 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link

xp it's not ideal

call all destroyer, Sunday, 22 November 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link

Zion Williamson was born in 2000 and is already the longest tenured member on the New Orleans Pelicans 🤯 pic.twitter.com/1v6uchuUwZ

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPointsApp) November 22, 2020

Fetchboy, Sunday, 22 November 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link

Bogdanovic would have brought everything together, honestly.

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:55 (three years ago) link

that was a great trade...... too great perhaps

J0rdan S., Sunday, 22 November 2020 03:57 (three years ago) link

Ibaka 2/19 to clips. I think he may fit better than trez and we know he and kawhi are cool

Spottie, Sunday, 22 November 2020 04:46 (three years ago) link

that hollinger excerpt makes some good points and also engages in a lot of speculation

k3vin k., Sunday, 22 November 2020 05:07 (three years ago) link

Fanbo Zeng will look to continue the tradition of international players at Gonzaga, following in the footsteps of Japanese forward Rui Hachimura (No. 9 pick in 2019 NBA Draft) and Lithuanian big man Domantas Sabonis (No. 11 pick in 2016), among many others. https://t.co/bslYxWIdbG

— Jonathan Givony (@DraftExpress) November 22, 2020

k3vin k., Sunday, 22 November 2020 05:26 (three years ago) link

so hayward would have taken 4/100 from the pacers but ainge didnt want to make the s/t work

micah, Sunday, 22 November 2020 11:37 (three years ago) link

lol ainge

discourse stu (m bison), Sunday, 22 November 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link

local reporting is that bos/ind never got close on a deal. i think what actually happened is charlotte kool-aid manned in with a wild overpay and hayward took it.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link

the celtics wanted warren, the pacers understandably didn’t want to give him up

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:29 (three years ago) link

i thought gordo was high af for opting out of 34M but the only person smoking something stronger was MJ

discourse stu (m bison), Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:30 (three years ago) link

hayward is going to go down as one of the top 10 highest paid players ever and he's made one AS team thats wild af

discourse stu (m bison), Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:31 (three years ago) link

i mean wont be one of the highest paid for long, his new contract isnt even for the max, let alone THE SUPPERMAX

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

lol supper max, thats the cool way to say thanksgiving

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:41 (three years ago) link

it really doesn't make sense that the C's would hold out for Warren if the alternative was losing Hayward for nothing, I don't really get it. I am over my head with understanding the financial angle though. maybe Danny, in contrast to the rest of the world, thought Turner's contrast actually wasn't a good value?

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link

love the supper max

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/99/9e/c0/999ec08c486b21fc2ed3f66ce622306d.jpg

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

feel like theres a lot we dont know like i havent even heard what indy was willing to pay hayward/how far apart they were on that, or if he had this hornets offer in his pocket the whole time, it def cld be possible that ainge just doesnt like turner or also maybe he thought there wasnt much risk of hayward taking a big offer from a shitty team

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 November 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link

one things for sure i can seen why he was holding out for warren, the celtics have absolutely zero wing depth

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link

celtics have zero anything outside of 4 good starters

ciderpress, Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:14 (three years ago) link

the thompson and teague signings were fine imo both those guys shd be dece in their roles, but who backs up smart/brown/tatum theyve just got nothing

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:18 (three years ago) link

oh i missed those yeah those guys are fine not that fond of teague but as a backup whatever

ciderpress, Sunday, 22 November 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link

now i’m wondering if the pacers were even willing to give up turner bcuz idk why the celtics wouldn’t just take him even in the name of asset accumulation

J0rdan S., Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:47 (three years ago) link

maybe the pacers were waiting on bogdan before offering turner to the celtics and so hayward was just like, fuck it?

J0rdan S., Sunday, 22 November 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link

yeah i mean who knows really weve got some tweets by a guy from the boston globe to go on basically

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

the reporting that jordan called hayward late that first night really has me thinking that charlotte detected the stalemate and increased their offer to get it done.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

mj chasing a gambling high in fa negotiations, no other explanation for the wackiness of their signings in recent years

discourse stu (m bison), Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

im not totally clear on the cap/tax implications of a hayward for turner trade but mb the celtics were worried abt only getting one quality player back because their bench is so bad, i know when they let hayward walk that allowed them to get under the tax line which gave them access to the full MLE with which they signed thompson, i cant find how much they gave teague but him and thompson are prob making around the same amount combined that turner makes and the celtics wouldve had to take back more than just turners salary in a trade which wouldve put them over the tax line started the repeater clock ticking etc

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:26 (three years ago) link

celtics have a couple small trade exemptions to fill out their wing depth and maybe could get a bigger one back or maybe even a player if they can work out a sign and trade for hayward

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link

honestly for this year teague and thompson could be better than turner and randos but turner wouldve been more of "a piece", tho i think ainge is clearly in the dont pay for middling centers camp which is fair, and staying under the tax line is worth something too

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

but at least lamelo with come up under the strong leadership of gordon hayward

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:36 (three years ago) link

gordon: have you ever read anything by ayn rand?
lamelo: *scrolling thru phone* check this shit out, i did a 69 with an ig model yesterday and she blew weed smoke on my dick

discourse stu (m bison), Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:44 (three years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link

i will not miss hayward on the celtics that was not a great run

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 November 2020 17:55 (three years ago) link


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