TOOL - C/D!?

That Dio was a bit of a chancer at times, but I'm assuming you meant "cancer" charity.

Nope, you assume wrong, I totally meant chancer. Like Chancer the Rapper-er.

Ah, my mistake. lol

She's a dancer, a romancer
I'm a Capricorn and she's a Chancer

Can I get Maynard to come install the sink after COVID?

You're a chancer
But you're chancing on air
Just a matter of time till you fall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRXukZRNW6Y

(justin & danny playing aenima at Berklee)

"pneuma" definitely the best tool song ever

that big riff is SO FUCKING SWEET

(the one that starts 3 minutes or so in)

i think it's an underrated album.

also, bit the bullet and got tickets to finally see them in january, but mainly because blonde redhead is opening(???)

i impulse bought two tix for me and my best friend

Yeah, I think I'm going with a pal. Pricey, but you only live once, and besides, those gongs don't pay for themselves.

I'm a bit too late for a ticket to Antwerp (venue sucks anyway) or Amsterdam. 330 euros for a ticket in Köln? haha, no thanks.

Tool is of course pretty awesome. I think we can all agree the best part of Tool is Danny; I could listen to an entire album that's just Danny. At least by default, I think we can also all agree that the worst part of Tool is Maynard; I could listen to a Tool album with no vocals at all. That said, a Tool album without Danny would I think be noticeably worse. But would a Tool album with someone other than Maynard be better?

The last album barely has any Maynard on it

True. I think they got impatient? Ironically, the one track that sounds like it's mostly Danny kind of sucks.

maynard sounds good i like his voice tho

At the same time, I wish he was singing in another language or something.

his voice is just texture to me, i dont pay attention to their lyrics really at all

Someone else singing the same songs would still be singing the same words so I don't think the baseline argument here has been thought out at all

Huh? I meant someone else singing different words from the start. Like, if they had a different singer from the beginning.

Now I'm envisioning a reality show contest like "Rock Star: Tool," or them scouring the Philippines for a cover band ringer or something.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHUg7Kroepc

"I like Tool but they would be better if they sang completely different songs" is a take, sure

what if they sang songs about Tools. like allen wrenches

If every Tool song was about tools and not just sung *by* a Tool, Maynard would rise in my estimation to at least the third best part of the band.

xpost So is being intentionally obtuse. The drums, guitars and bass would be intact, so functionally the same songs, just with a different singer/words. Or, as I said, even no singer/words. How essential is Maynard to the equation, is the question. Like, there is no doubt REM without Michael Stipe is not REM. But Maynard (as illustrated by posts noting his relative absence on the last record, or one whose lyrics can easily just be ignored) doesn't always seem the most pivotal component of the band.

I do really like the last song on Lateralus but not sure if that's more becuase no singing or because it sounds like metal Can.

Ah I see, you don’t actually know what a song is

I could listen to a Tool album with no vocals at all

this is me but with Radiohead. I'd probably love Radiohead if there were no vocals

Maynard's voice is cool. It's distinctive, at least. It never bothered me.

I wanna know what a song is
I want you to show me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dr6ZlcR6Fo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zfYO9sZjrE

^ one of the comments: should have named the band "Toot"

Didn't I just see something about one of them peeing on the audience?

yeah i just read that too D:

oh - so THAT's why they're suddenly trending.

The Ex Eye record from a couple of years ago might satisfy the desire for an instrumental Tool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8Xq9enRx18

i was at this festival and am beside myself that I missed the peeing

there's video footage and it's way more explicit than you'd expect

I didn't really know who this band was or what their deal was but now that I feel like I do it seems more shocking; like they're not some shock band, those look like a bunch of fairly serious professional musicians to me.

Also I have always been under the impression that maynard was extremely critical to the band and that he wrote the music and lyrics. if he doesn't actually write the music then he could easily go. I guess he kind of does that anyway since Pucifer is 10X more prolific than Tool.

I thought guitar riffs and bass lines are how Tool songs start out, then drums get written, with vocals being the last?

Pretty sure Maynard is indeed the last thing added and has nothing to do with the music. They accumulate guitar, bass, drum ideas, refine and cobble them together over many months, then he adds vox and lyrics and song titles. I've seen a few interviews with the band where they admit they have to walk him through some of the tricky stuff to help him come up with lyrics and melodies that fit, and interviews with him where he'll finally come up with something but by the time he brings it to the band they've changed or otherwise rearranged the music. Sounds like a tough slog.

From what I understand about Rush it was almost the opposite. Neil would accumulate lyrics, Geddy and Alex would accumulate riffs and songs, Neil would give Geddy some lyrics, Geddy and Alex would collect their riffs and stuff and arrange them into songs, with Alex programming drums, then Neil would come in toward the end, listen to the demos and come up with his own drum parts. Then I think the band and producer would tinker further with arrangements. More of a full, equal collaboration.

Oh man Danny Carey pulled a cake boss pic.twitter.com/Fauu0rBQfu

— the ghost of txtmas past (@metaltxt) December 14, 2021

Tool has a drummer?

"But I'm a tool!" "yeah buddy, arms behind your back"

this tour's setlist feels so refreshing after years of Schism/Stinkfist/Aenima/46&2/Parabol etc : https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/tool/2022/smoothie-king-center-new-orleans-la-b88396e.html

(I love those songs, don't get me wrong)