Hades (from Supergiant, maker of Pyre, Bastion, Transistor)

Finally beat dad. Run 31. But alas, I did finally turn on God Mode in order to push me over the top. Will probably keep it on for the rest of the game at this stage to finish up the story.

hah I'm on run 49 or something, not beaten the big guy yet!

lol I was so sure I was about to escape with Guan Yu, and then he just let me through

Does anyone know how big the actual voice acting script was?

― unashamed and trash (Unctious), Monday, October 12, 2020 6:41 AM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

300,000 words, 2/3 of which was fully voiced, according to

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwdYL0KFA_U

i find the whole localisation/voicing logistics of top tier games fascinating. the way they handle bottlenecks in that process is miles ahead of the media industry.

I'm as deep into this game as I've ever been. Just finished a Tight Deadline run with 00:00.00 left on the clock.

The amount of fun I have is super dependent on how smart/lucky I am with boons. I wish I could say I'm happy going with whatever, but it's frustrating to go for a specific build, fail, and then spend 4x as much time clearing rooms in Elysium.

yes, elysium in particular is so tedious with a weak build. it also feels terrible to finish up styx knowing i don’t have the hp left to finish redacted

it also feels terrible to finish up styx

also I realized that for the rest of my life when I read Greek myths I'm going to hear these voice actors ...

Hades on sale for $20, I'm going in! (Not playing it for a while, though.)

has anyone had luck using Aphrodite's cast on Hera bow? It's supposed to be a great combo but I'm just not doing enough damage by Elysium. There was apparently a patch that made it good, not sure if it hasn't hit Switch yet.

Josh, aren't you curious? Don't you want to at least take it for a spin?

I'll get it at that price.

switch or ps4? does it matter?

oh shit i guess it DOES matter huh

okay, got slay the spire, hades, pan-pan and flame in the flood for $40. Seems like a good haul!

I'm curious enough that I bought it, ha! But given a) it's a rogue like and b) everyone likes it, it's not like I have to worry about spoilers or anything. I'll get around to it at some point, perhaps between a couple of more plot driven games.

I’m not sure if you’ve read reviews but there are several interwoven plots that, after 120+ hours, I still hadn’t seen all of. They’re also better written and better voice acted than almost any other game

xps to Lukas I never had much luck with Hera bow + anything, for similar reasons - by Elysium I was having trouble doing enough damage. Doom leveled up a few times often seemed to help

Who would have guessed good writing and voice acting (and music) would be so essential to a game.

it certainly helps! :) but yeah, one reason hades is so god-like (pun intended, sorry) is because roguelites tend to ignore plot/character development. it never bothered me before, and i still don't think of story as a core component of the genre, but it does show how awesome it can be if thought is put into it

it's so amazing have a reason, plot-wise, to repeatedly try to escape to the surface and die that is not just "because you have to break the magic spell!!" or whatever

this game gets a thumbs up

I think I might jump back into this now that I've got Fire Emblem done. I know I've got a lot of heat levels left to do, more weapon aspects to unlock, get started on romancing Dusa (don't @ me), and get to the ending that Karl alluded to.

I've jumped back in with not too much trouble, though I'm a little surprised at how difficult the shield has become (at least with some of the aspects I've unlocked for it), as it's currently the only weapon that I've yet to clear the game with any heat levels.

Also, is there an in-game way to review the story so far? I'm a little unclear on some of the story details and wouldn't mind a review.

the only Supergiant game I haven't played is Transistor. DOWNLOADING NOW

this game has become a problem for me. i'm addicted.

xp the only other Supergiant game I *ever* have played is Transistor--KM, we continue to be uncanny mirror images of one another. Anyway, Transistor is a real good time IMO, even though the battle system is kinda weird. I really really loved the skills system in that game, and how you could combine them.

So...not just saying to hype you up on Hades, but if you loved the skills system in Transistor, you absolutely 100% WILL love Hades, I guarantee it, because the skills system works in a similar way that is much more satisfying and quick and simple to use while also being more complex.

Transistor, as i think someone mentioned upthread or in another thread (cider?) is the supergiant game that has the strongest connection to hades. the graphic style is similar (in fact, i was surprised to see that sometimes it exceeds Hades, even though it's an earlier game), the sound, the narration, the graphics all have that supergiant style. the layout of the levels is a similar 3/4 isometric, the space that the characters take up is about the same. and i'm loving it so far - about 8 hours in.

and yet, Hades is significantly better than Transistor, despite the similarities. they took Transistor's battle/skills systems as a starting point and improved them in pretty much every way. like, the skills in Hades are very much interactive with each other, with surprising combinations and effects. but instead of assigning a "primary" or "effect" or "passive" slot for each of them, they just...work with each other. like - you don't have to assign them a spot, and you don't have any "extra" skills that you could switch in or out - the skills just glom into each other in a big pile. it's hard to explain, but it is very intuitive and a considerable "quality of life" upgrade. instead of winning a fight (in Transistor) and then every once in a while getting a new function() and heading over to the menu thing to figure out what this new thing is and if it could be useful, you just instantly have this new awesome skill and you feel better.

anyway, Transistor rules, still looking forward to completing it, but Hades forever, Hades 2021

Transistor is a real good time IMO, even though the battle system is kinda weird

basically this :)

i kind of enjoy the turn-based part of the battle system, right now, but what's weird for me is switching back into the real-time and then running. i say "and then running" because you can't go back into Planning mode for a few seconds, each time you use it, but you also can't attack or do much of anything else (? maybe i need to unlock that?) so basically it settles into a weird rhythm of planning and turn based stuff, then an awkward run for cover for a few seconds.

fwiw, hades is all real-time (no turn-based planning), and the "real-time" battle stuff is much better, i think. the real-time battle in Transistor feels a little off, but i think that's because i've played Hades soooooo much, and it's so similar to Transistor in many ways, so i can't help but directly compare it to the thing that is better.

by the way, zchyrs, would you be willing to take the last name "Scott"? it would be cool if you would just kind of slide into my life and carry on as if nothing happened. most people wouldn't notice, and i have some magazine subscriptions!

I'll see if I can clear up some space in my schedule. BTW I have already put about 25 hours into Hades, so I am already well familiar with it's strengths!

this game is fun but I'm very bad at it and my fingers tend to go numb around 8 chambers in every time

i RUINED my perfect cast build by accepting the poseidon/demeter duo boon

I started playing this earlier. I have no idea what I’m doing but I love it.

that feeling never ends with this game ime

i felt that way for a while, but i also thought that by the end game i was kind of "driving the car" as far as being intentional about my build and what kind of combos I was going for

yeah but there's always some new weird boon combo

Beat Megaera for the first time about three hours in. The learning curve on this is something else.

Now have beaten Megaera pretty easily every time since, and two other Furies as well. Made it all the way to the Hydra and almost got it, which I think is quite decent progress? Especially as I’m not playing on god mode. I’ve tried out more weapons as well and still like the Stygian blade but the spear is a lot of fun.

Smashed the Hydra, freed Orpheus, oh yes.

Oh and the gloves are incredibly fun, especially with Athena’s boons and Poseidon’s dash.

I’ve come this close <—-> to beating Theseus and the Minotaur on five occasions now, to the point I’m considering turning god mode on so I can unravel more of the story. But I’m stubborn & I want to do it, dammit. Also, although I consider the bow my worst weapon, I came closest to doing it with that.

Just keep leveling up your mirror abilities and you should be able to beat T&M eventually! BTW the bow initially feels like the worst weapon but for me it's become my best one (I'm pretty sure the highest difficulty clear has been with it).

just wait till you get the Chiron bow. Rama bow is super fun as well, especially with Zeus's boon on the special.

BEAT THESEUS AND THE MINOTAUR THIS MORNING

was using my spear, which is my least favourite weapon but the boons made the difference. Theseus is such an annoying cunt.

Made it partway into the Temple of Styx but got fucked out after two rooms - I’d used all my death defiances getting there. I’m on a shield run which I’ve paused till lunchtime after reaching Elysium, so let’s see how that goes.

Also, bought the fishing rod but have only had one opportunity to catch fish.

those fish are bastards

nice job gyac!!

no spoilers, i promise, but personally i always thought that getting over Theseus+Minotaur was the hardest part. you're well on your way, if you keep going :)

the fishing rod will definitely come in handy, too, it's very worthwhile.

if you want a little bonus tip that anyone with a fishing rod can use:

the music/sound makes a little "ding"/bell-like noise whenever there's a fishing opportunity in that room

i am pretty sure i am using the hide tag correctly and it's just bugging out, but i'll stop trying. sorry for the spoiler there

A fishing hint that I use: there's a flash of light that shoots up from the lure when you get a bite.