What was the first music you ever hated?

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"Bennie and the Jets". I hated its sluggishness & its lack of resolution after "you know I read it in a magazine", like it should burst after that but it doesn't, it just drops back into the lope. nowadays I dig it though, was just a kid thing.

All cars are bad (Euler), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 15:50 (three years ago) link

i remember hating the banana splits for doing songs that the beatles could otherwise have done. i guess i thought there were only a finite number of songs. i hadn't totally thought everything through.

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:00 (three years ago) link

i guess i thought there were only a finite number of songs.


Correct.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

well, a smaller finite number. like, the banana splits were needlessly using up songs.

Thus Sang Freud, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

i love that, such a great example of kid-logic

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

I think it was the Alison Moyet cover of "That Ole Devil Called Love". At the time, young Siegbran was not ready for smooth vocal jazz in his life (yet).

Siegbran, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

most frustrating thing about the banana splits was that you saw them whizzing around in beach buggies in the opening sequence but the beach buggies never appeared in the actual show afaict* at least I don't remember seeing them again

same with the pink panther show, why didn't we ever see any more of that amazing pink racing car thing?

*lol I might be totally confusing this with the monkees tbh

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:14 (three years ago) link

Can You Feel the Love Tonight.

― healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:39 AM (twelve hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

someone also mentioned "a whole new world" and aladdin and i think that's my real answer. i felt pretty visceral hatred for a lot of songs from animated disney films from the moment i heard them. i kind of knew instinctually that they stood for everything i despised aesthetically - music that is inseparable from whatever plot mechanics it is attached to, andrew lloyd weber-style melodies and harmonic development (the equivalent of thomas kinkaide paintings, to me), music organized around reinforcing the middle class american nuclear family as the mystic construct we should all aspire to perpetuating, etc.

Amy #Kony Barrett (map), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

"Beauty and the Beast" is another big one - i HATED that song

Amy #Kony Barrett (map), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

I'm not surprised, most kids tend to prefer peppy songs over syrupy love ballads

Siegbran, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:28 (three years ago) link

100% on both the banana splits beach buggies and the pink panther's pinkousine panthermobile never appearing in the actual shows. we woz robbed!

stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:29 (three years ago) link

"Beauty and the Beast" is another big one - i HATED that song

Have you spent the intervening years... "learning you were wrong"? (sorry, couldn't resist!)

it's AG in your faaaace.... (morrisp), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

lol

map, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

I'm not surprised, most kids tend to prefer peppy songs over syrupy love ballads

― Siegbran, Wednesday, November 18, 2020 4:28 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

love ballads were my favorite though! "make it real" by the jets was one of my first obsessions.

map, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link

I hated both tbh.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:37 (three years ago) link

even at 9 my mind was hissing "the Bach Double isn't opera you idiot"

Did you play violin already?

I don't think I had that much of an awareness of European classical music at that age, beyond "Ode to Joy", which we sang in Grade 4 and I liked, and the things our music teacher played in class in Grade 5, which everyone liked bc she was awesome.

actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link

I loved the Pastoral Symphony and the Brandenburg Concertos and Ravel’s Bolero. My parents took me to see The Magic Flute but I have no recollection of it, and Mozart has never been a favourite of mine to this day (ditto opera).

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

i loved the enormous '90s diane warren ballads as a kid, partic celine dion's "because you loved me," which i might struggle to get through now

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 16:59 (three years ago) link

I had a lot of hate for country and metal when I was young, not specifically because of the music itself but because the majority of people who listened to it in my vicinity were overwhelmingly racist. I'm now an adult and, while I'm heartened to see people attempting to rehabilitate these genres, I've found enough enjoyable music elsewhere that I don't feel the need to really explore either.

DJP, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:00 (three years ago) link

celine dion ballads in general were so big and operatic you could kind of lose yourself in the broadness of their emotions and i just loved inhabiting that kind of melodrama as a really boring kid xp

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:01 (three years ago) link

DJP, I hated Guns N' Roses for the same reason— a classmate of mine in elementary school would wear this GNR bandana that had some confederate flag stuff on it, and I remember distinctly when a teacher told him to "take that racist trash off your head in my classroom." Made a big impression on me.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link

Fwiw I’ve always viewed country as more racist than metal because the latter is an essentially international genre.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:05 (three years ago) link

yes but which of those genres has a subgenre that's openly white supremacist

i guess the answer is prob both

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:10 (three years ago) link

I liked Guns 'N Roses initially and then "One In A Million" happened

DJP, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

like i said

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

yes but which of those genres has a subgenre that's openly white supremacist

i guess the answer is prob both


Was just about to say. Tbf nazi punk and fashwave also exist. I wouldn’t be surprised if white supremacist rap was also a thing.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

Maybe not "hate" but I remember hearing Phil Collins' "Groovy Kind Of Love" while waiting for my mom to get her hair cut at age 11 or so and thinking "wow, I'm pretty sure this is a bad song". That same day also exposed me to "Solsbury Hill" for the first time and I thought "ah this is very good, isn't it"

On the opposite tack, I loved "Kokomo" when it came out and still am kinda surprised (Mike Love animosity aside) that it hasn't had a reappraisal

flamboyant goon tie included, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

ive gotten into more than one irl argument with people saying "country music is racist" while literally wearing the apparel of euro metal acts with uhh shall we say edgy racial politics. that disconnect is always weird to me

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

I've def seen videos of neo-Nazi rewrites of popular rap songs.

actually-very-convincing (Sund4r), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link

In Hot Chocolate's 'You Sexy Thing' there are weird glottal-sounding timbales - I guess because they have some sort of phaser or envelope follower effect - that made me want to gag as a kid and the song's production still makes me queasy.

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:18 (three years ago) link

I really hated The Monkees' "The Day We Fall In Love" Davy's mawkish love song glopping up the otherwise impeccable More of the Monkees album.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:27 (three years ago) link

Oh, and "Stay Awhile" by The Bells skeeved me out too.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link

my earliest memories of hating music (there were probably earlier instances but I can't recall them now):

"Goodbye Earl" by the Dixie Chicks — I grew up listening to a lot of country radio but stopped listening to it because of this song
The Backstreet Boys
*NSync
Britney

sorry, ILM ;_;

real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:32 (three years ago) link

^^^ Those are the first acts I remember detesting as a tween. Felt downright oppressive at the time, like the sound of bullying. I’ve whined about this in other threads already but thus began my lifelong skepticism towards poppiness (and poptimism).

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:37 (three years ago) link

first thing i remember really hating was 'you are the sunshine of my life' by stevie wonder. i still have vivid memories of being 3 or 4 and being stuck in the living room with that song seemingly always on the radio while my mother was elsewhere in the house with the vacuum cleaner on and just feeling alone and helpless and tormented by what seemed to be a completely random melody, a tune that made me feel so unsettled and uneasy, everything shifting up and down all the damn time like the deck of a ship in a storm. was also vexed and fearful as to what the ominous sounding 'apple of the eye' might be. terrifying stuff, the whole thing was as awful, oily and confusing as the taste of medicine. put me off stevie for the longest time tbh

kites aren't fun (NickB), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:38 (three years ago) link

I'm sure I've mentioned this somewhere but for me this was Graceland, thanks to my parents playing it over and over on cassette on long road trips. Still can't bear to listen to any of it.

it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link

Loved Britney and the Venga Boys and also Man is the Bastard and Limpwrist. 8th-9th grade was a really weird time.

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

Which is to say that I didn't have the same experience as a lot of young teen or tween males with BSB or NSync and stuff because I was attracted to them

healthy cocaine off perfect butts (the table is the table), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

This is purely anecdotal, of course, but my wife found them just as oppressive, perhaps even more so.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

I knew a 12 y/o boy in the early 2000s who was figuring out music and very concerned with being seen as a red-blooded straight usa male, and he eschewed any music sung by males as being 'gay', because his logic was that they were singing their love songs you, the listener. So to burnish his he-man image among his peers group he made a point to conspicuously flaunt his CDs by Cher, Britney, and Xtina, which is what he imagined all straight men should be listening to. I hope he's doing ok today.

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:30 (three years ago) link

Flawless logic tbh.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:33 (three years ago) link

dudes rock

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:35 (three years ago) link

More general, but as a very young kid I just could't listen to vinyl records which were akipping because they had a rift in them. This was probably the most intense hatred back then rather than one particular song or artist.

Somewhat older, I used to despise everything on Barbara Streisand's "Guilty" album when I was about 20 pr 11.

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:41 (three years ago) link

10 or 11 I mean.

The GeirBot (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

Not a whole lot of hated music comes to mind, which is nice. As a kid, Minnie Riperton's "Lovin' You". I've come around to not hating it, due to aging and thinking Maya Rudolph is excellent. In college, Judas Priest's "Parental Guidance" drew the line for the before/after of my fandom. Pandering and idiotic. Adulthood, Bowling for Soup, after getting their 3rd album to review it. Aggressively moronic and amateurish. Couldn't find anything positive to say, and round-filed it.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link

Music from the motion picture Grease.

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

In college, Judas Priest's "Parental Guidance" drew the line for the before/after of my fandom. Pandering and idiotic.

A truly awful song, but they've done good stuff since.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:04 (three years ago) link

I got really offended by Candy Flip's cover of 'Strawberry Fields Forever' when I was 9.

'That's a Beatles song! Don't people know they're copying the Beatles? They're trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes!'

Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

I knew a 12 y/o boy in the early 2000s who was figuring out music and very concerned with being seen as a red-blooded straight usa male, and he eschewed any music sung by males as being 'gay', because his logic was that they were singing their love songs you, the listener. So to burnish his he-man image among his peers group he made a point to conspicuously flaunt his CDs by Cher, Britney, and Xtina, which is what he imagined all straight men should be listening to. I hope he's doing ok today.

― turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:30 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

he's living the dream as a power bottom tbf

map, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link


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