Every huge artist has their "New Jersey" - a huge event album that ultimately feels a bit hollow & signals a career decline

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xpost put rock on what map? the map to buttrock town?

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:22 (three years ago) link

the map is available on a 12" CDV

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link

“The music that put rock on the map”
Good lord

― calstars, Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:03 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

LMFAO

flappy bird, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

that is a perfectly reasonable dad joke tbf

@oneposter (💹) (sic), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

that is a perfectly reasonable dad joke tbf

@oneposter (💹) (sic), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

for New Jersey's core audience of 22 year olds with two kids

@oneposter (💹) (sic), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link

Harsh but fair

coupvfefe (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:28 (three years ago) link

whoa oh

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

Desmond Child's laziest songwriting effort. It's where @cmolanphy's theory comes in: the track's popularity was, in a way, the public's referendum for the success of Slippery When Wet. The public was primed to buy ANYTHING Bon Jovi in 1988, and they bought this hot garbage. https://t.co/MkeNmqrf7R

— Adrien Begrand (@AdrienBegrand) June 9, 2021

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 9 June 2021 23:06 (two years ago) link

That's what you get for falling in love obv.

Actually, I don't really know what makes this more garbage-like than most of SWW.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 04:06 (two years ago) link

As far as Bon Jovi goes, this is the only one I don't turn off when it comes on the radio. I find it gloriously stupid.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 04:08 (two years ago) link

c'mon now, Living On A Prayer actually rips

alpine static, Thursday, 10 June 2021 04:32 (two years ago) link

i can't believe i put the "g" on Livin'

so embarrassing

alpine static, Thursday, 10 June 2021 04:33 (two years ago) link

I find it gloriously stupid.

It's a terrific fake Slade song (only lacking in that it wasn't titled "Bad Med-A-Sin").

blue whales on ambient (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 10 June 2021 04:41 (two years ago) link

I did my best to promote the thread on Breihan's Twitter feed.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 09:28 (two years ago) link

I love the song's fake fake-ending, which is like extra stupid. I love the on the nose lyrics. I love how it sounds a bit like the fake song Jack Black writes in "School of Rock." And I love how the only Bon Jovi songs I can hum are the ones they wrote with Desmond Child, though to be fair there are a bunch of songs they did with Desmond Child that I've never heard or don't recognize. Desmond Child, man. What a weird ass CV that hack has.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 12:06 (two years ago) link

FWIW, Child had another hit with Joan Jett's "I Hate Myself for Loving You" the same year as "Bad Medicine," and that song is even more in the Slade-ish glam-rock mode.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 12:13 (two years ago) link

and much better

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 12:14 (two years ago) link

Man, now I wish Joan Jett had done "Bad Medicine."

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 June 2021 12:21 (two years ago) link

Desmond Child should be banned from music with guitars, sitars, theremins, and bongos

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:10 (two years ago) link

a theremin and bongos band would be cool

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:16 (two years ago) link

The Joan Jett song is bad ass. The Bon Jovi song is stoopid.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link

evergreen

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:18 (two years ago) link

"Dude Looks Like a Lady" was the year before too. Child was really on a roll.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:24 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op3XaWdYfmk

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:30 (two years ago) link

Child was really on a roll a troll.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:39 (two years ago) link

i can't believe i put the "g" on Livin'

so embarrassing


The hard G would be more Long Island than New Jersey

or maybe Liverpool: “Liveen Gunna Pruur, Loov.”

"The Pus/Worm" by The Smiths (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link

OMG, there is some great stuff here, which makes me think I could listen to Desmond Child tell stories for hours:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TDydJPb7O0

In which I learn that "Dude Looks Like a Lady" was written about Vince Neil (and also that Desmond Child is gay, which I also didn't know). Here's a crazy clip of Child with Vince Neil and a young Rick Beato working on something shitty:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmqzcJrizl8

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 13:42 (two years ago) link

One reason why "Bad Medicine" seems worse than the Slippery When Wet singles is that those songs could plausibly be seen as having actual subjects, storylines and characters that we could putatively care about, whereas this song is just a contentless celebration of their Bon Joviness (particularly if you're familiar with the video).

I'm surprised this song hasn't been hijacked by the anti-vaxxers yet.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link

don't give them the idea, 45% of ILX is anti-vax lurkers

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:23 (two years ago) link

The problem is, Bon Jovi WANT their bad medicine.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:28 (two years ago) link

If “hate myself” had been sung by Bon Jovi you guys would hate on it and point to jett’s “medicine” as the superior tune

calstars, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:39 (two years ago) link

counterpoint: nope

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link

I hate the Jovi but can at least point to hooks in his older material. the chorus to Bad Medicine is fuckin' dire, as is the verse, and it sounds like it was written in ten minutes over screwdrivers

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link

It doesn't seem that different from "You Give Love a Bad Name" in terms of content? It's just a less negative take on seduction and obsession but it could even be a prequel.xps

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link

tbh I'm not a huge fan of "I Hate Myself for Loving You" either but i'd take it over Butt Medicine

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link

Or "I Hate Myself..." for that matter
Xp

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:47 (two years ago) link

woulda preferred if Kinison had sang Bad Medicine

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKboMhtEKoM

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link

"Your love is like Sam Kin-i-son"

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:51 (two years ago) link

It's like the pu-pu platter of hard rock cameos: Steven Tyler and Joe Perry of Aerosmith, Ratt, Slash and Steven Adler of Guns N' Roses, Billy Idol, Steve Vai, Dweezil Zappa, Richie Sambora, Jon Bon Jovi and Tommy Lee.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:53 (two years ago) link

Actually, there are even more hair dorks in that Kinison video. CC from Poison, Sebastian Bach, Rudy Sarzo, supposedly Jonathan Cain from Journey?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link

and also that Desmond Child is gay, which I also didn't know

it's not like this song doesn't exist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ihtX86JzmA

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link

"She Bangs" is worse than "Bad Medicine."

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

"She Bangs" is worse than most songs.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link

and significantly gayer

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 June 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link

"you give love a bad name" is a way better conceit/premise than "your love is like bad medicine." i feel like someone started with "love is like oxygen" and started swapping in other words as an exercise in beating writer's block, and the end result is just a bag of cliches. the lyric could maybe sustain an under-three-minutes 50s rock/r&b number but not this kind of arena-scaled hard rock, imo.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link

What is bad medicine?

Expired?
Not FDA-approved?
Hard drugs?

cancel culture club (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:55 (two years ago) link

i think it's like, the generic/competitor's product in commercials for Extra-Strength Tylenol.

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 10 June 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

it’s when the other person is just like a pill, ‘stead of makin' you better they keep makin' you ill

Long Tall Arsetee & the Shaker Intros (breastcrawl), Thursday, 10 June 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link


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