2020 nba offseason draft free agency etc

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xp. Sorry, I get George Hill and Gary Harris's names mixed up all the time but point stands.

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:50 (three years ago) link

I'm still new to NBA armchair-GMing here so I'm having a hard time seeing what this gets for the Pels, too. They've already got a glut of young promise so late 1st rd picks aren't all that useful aside from as bargaining chips in trades. Bledsoe's a coward. I guess it's nice to have Harris as a vet mentor? Jrue had a bad year and will never be a 1st (or maybe even 2nd) on offense but is a lockdown defender and the polar opposite of a locker room cancer.

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the only thing i can think of from the pelicans side is that the picks will be far out enough that if they use them they won't have the glut of youth that they have now. or they just plan on trading them

i also think they must have some belief that bledsoe's value can be rehabilitated? he has 2 years left w/ non fully guaranteed third year. but it's hard to understand how he fits into a backcourt w/ lonzo and jj redick

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:52 (three years ago) link

Pretty wild trades there imo. Jrue is cool but all those picks cool? Seems like Bledsoe is like 75-80% of jrue I dunno how much of an upgrade that really is. Although I imagine jrue won’t transform into a total scrub in the offs.

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:53 (three years ago) link

I bet they flip Bledsoe somewhere else. Pels just wanted the best package for a guy who was clearly not gonna play this season with them. Multiple picks plus a couple nice vets to flip or mentor is a nice haul no matter where the picks land.

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:55 (three years ago) link

Milwaukee is landing Sacramento's Bogdan Bogdanovich in a sign-and-trade deal, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 17, 2020



now this is a good trade

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 06:14 (three years ago) link

The Bucks are trading Donte Divincenzo. Ersan Ilyasova and DJ Wilson in the deal to the Kings, sources said. https://t.co/Vrho6gZQhH

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 17, 2020

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 06:14 (three years ago) link

White donte was always meant to be on the kings

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 06:16 (three years ago) link

Bucks GM Jon Horst has reshaped his roster late Monday night, acquiring Jrue Holiday and Bogdan Bogdanovic. Giannis wanted to see some significant upgrades and it appears the franchise has delivered for him. Huge night for that franchise. Kings get Divincenzo, a real asset.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 17, 2020



it’s really funny to me when woj gets into NBA narrator mode..... yeah great get for the kings. traded one of their only good finds for an inferior player bcuz they gave buddy hield $90 million dollars.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 06:22 (three years ago) link

Whatever Bucks ownership promised Giannis in their postseason meeting ... I think they exceeded it.

Swinging trades for a two-way force like Jrue Holiday and a marksman of Bogdan Bogdanovic's caliber before we even get to the draft is league-shaking work from Jon Horst and Co.

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) November 17, 2020

why are NBA beat writers like this.........

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 06:26 (three years ago) link

Hey when you're the team who took Bagley over Luka you take small victories wherever you can find em ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Getting anything of value in a S&T for someone who was gonna bolt for nothing is a win. I wonder if this means they've talked Buddy down from adamantly wanting out a bit.

An all of those tweets are just the team's respective GMs/front office leakers using the reporter as a mouthpiece lol; same deal as the Harden ESPN report from yesterday calling Spencer Dinwiddie "An all-star caliber guard". Propaganda to soften the public blow of trading the same # of picks that AD and PG went for for for Jrue Holiday and whatnot.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 06:31 (three years ago) link

Hey when you're the team who took Bagley over Luka you take small victories wherever you can find em ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Getting anything of value in a S&T for someone who was gonna bolt for nothing is a win. I wonder if this means they've talked Buddy down from adamantly wanting out a bit.

An all of those tweets are just the team's respective GMs/front office leakers using the reporter as a mouthpiece lol; same deal as the Harden ESPN report from yesterday calling Spencer Dinwiddie "An all-star caliber guard". Propaganda to soften the public blow of trading the same # of picks that AD and PG went for for for Jrue Holiday and whatnot.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 06:31 (three years ago) link

Woops double post sorry.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 06:31 (three years ago) link

Gonna miss Donte but this is a good trade

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 06:31 (three years ago) link

Here is the roster in Milwaukee and staying under the hard cap:

Holiday (has unlikely bonuses that count)
Middleton
Bogdanovic at $14.65M
Giannis
Lopez
J. James
Thanasis
7 players on minimum contracts

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) November 17, 2020

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 13:48 (three years ago) link

one thing about the bucks trading for not one but two versatile jack of all trades wing types is that it won't compel bud to make them play any differently than they have been.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 13:49 (three years ago) link

jrue is a destructive defender who will be great for the bucks*

*in the regular season

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link

I just taste for the first time a smothie..MAN GOD BLESS AMERICA😊

— Giannis Ugo Antetokounmpo (@Giannis_An34) January 20, 2014

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

Jrue/bogdan/Middleton on the wing is pretty darn nasty I gotta admit

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 14:49 (three years ago) link

Lonzo and Jrue never made sense to me and this was quite the offer for Jrue.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link

Here is the pick breakdown on the Jrue Holiday trade:

New Orleans receives

2020 1st (via IND)
2024 right to swap
2025 1st unprotected
2026 right to swap
2027 1st unprotected

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) November 17, 2020

pels going for the distant picks

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:29 (three years ago) link

smart

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:30 (three years ago) link

If the 2021 pick from portland is heavily protected I think it’s ok. Covington is exactly what they need. Well he’s one of the exact things they need.

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link

hes a really good fit and they only gave up a filler player but... i guess draft picks are cheap right now

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:18 (three years ago) link

with houston rebuilding there might even be a playoff spot for the blazers

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

theyll def make the play in game at least lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:23 (three years ago) link

So apparently the thunder’s pick swap with the rockets next year is top 4 protected, which means the Rockets will have to engineer a really special kind of tanking

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

Can they trade harden without getting players back that will win any games?

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:42 (three years ago) link

i think you could build an awful team around ben simmons if you needed to, he might not like it tho

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

but with the new lottery odds even if you have the worst record you only have a ~50% chance of landing in the top 4, oops lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:53 (three years ago) link

rockets shd prob just kiss that pick goodbye and move on with their lives

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 16:54 (three years ago) link

i mean okc prob will miss the offs too so

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:04 (three years ago) link

Here is the roster in Milwaukee and staying under the hard cap:

Holiday (has unlikely bonuses that count)
Middleton
Bogdanovic at $14.65M
Giannis
Lopez
J. James
Thanasis
7 players on minimum contracts

— Bobby Marks (@BobbyMarks42) November 17, 2020

are they aware that you do have to play more than 5 players?

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

i'm dying @ thanasis being on there

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:28 (three years ago) link

guys weve still got thanasis

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:31 (three years ago) link

yeah that roster is thin as hell...their best 5 will be really good tho

k3vin k., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:35 (three years ago) link

having only 7 guys might be good for Bud though

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:43 (three years ago) link

they shd get rondo

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:51 (three years ago) link

the warriors had like 6 or 7 real players the other year

ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link

They have to keep the other Antetokounmpo because the other Lopez opted for free agency

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link

haa

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

wow that would be something. players might have to start their own league to get around that issue.

Spottie, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link

definitely cool if true

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

https://i.ibb.co/YNPqvh7/Screen-Shot-2020-11-17-at-10-47-24-AM.png

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link

https://i.ibb.co/D1zS3QD/Screen-Shot-2020-11-17-at-10-47-24-AM.png

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 18:51 (three years ago) link

the fertita stuff feels like a real stretch to me. if the rockets were set up to be contenders none of them would be trying to break up the team bcuz of the owner’s political donations

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:14 (three years ago) link

yeah that roster is thin as hell...their best 5 will be really good tho


in theory until a team in the playoffs plays brook lopez off the floor and they gotta run out... uh.... whoever their sixth man is

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

and that is a little moment we like to call "Thanasis Time"

Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

xp it's a ric bucher report so it's made up, but still pretty funny to think about

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:24 (three years ago) link

i do support any and all news reports that portray tillman fertita as toxic regardless of their accuracy

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link


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