Was/Is Morrissey Racist?

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^ looked up this Beverly Hills number, reached a mansion owned by Ricky Martin 2004-2006, and by Michael & Shakira Caine 1976-87, who installed a pool that extended from the living room to outdoors, but the next owners removed the indoor part, before a later buyer razed the entire house.

phone numbers vaguely related to people who have not figured out how to live

@oneposter (šŸ’¹) (sic), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:37 (three years ago) link

in not-entirely-startling news: armond white is on twitter arguing that the most recent three morrissey LPs are the best of his career

mark s, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

I'm sad to report thatā€¦

He's still among us.

pomenitul, Saturday, 9 January 2021 16:06 (three years ago) link

Hmph

Saw this thread and immediately thought the worst/best.

candyman, Saturday, 9 January 2021 16:13 (three years ago) link

considering what this last year has done to loads of previously-seemingly-ok musicians, I dread to think what Morrissey's next pronouncement will be when he emerges again.

Ł©(Ķ”ą¹ĢÆĶ”ą¹)Ū¶ (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 9 January 2021 16:16 (three years ago) link

Ffs pom

scampish inquisition (gyac), Saturday, 9 January 2021 16:21 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

Being parodied by latter day Simpsons, I mean why would you even bother drawing attention to it? Like being savaged by a dead sheep.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 07:56 (three years ago) link

Simpsons show
Morrissey character
Beatles band

Party With A Jagger Ban (dog latin), Monday, 19 April 2021 07:57 (three years ago) link

"I wish this show about a fictional musician had told millions of people about several of the many racist things that the real Morrissey has said and sung, so that they could really get into him"

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Monday, 19 April 2021 08:08 (three years ago) link

"Other shows like SNL still do a great job at finding ways to inspire great satire" - no they don't, but I still hope someone from the show reads this and they insult Morrissey in some way in an upcoming episode

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 19 April 2021 09:47 (three years ago) link

Utterly shocked that Morrissey has a very thin white skin and time on his hands

Call of Scampi: Slack Nephrops (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 April 2021 11:25 (three years ago) link

you have to admit it is pretty racist to show him with his belly hanging out

Left, Monday, 19 April 2021 12:16 (three years ago) link

wait who wrote this? is talking about himself in 3rd person just a thing he does? and i'm pretty sure he has sued or threatened to sue multiple times? isn't that part of the reason he got such an easy ride in the press until things got this bad?

Left, Monday, 19 April 2021 12:26 (three years ago) link

What's with the greengrocer's apostrophe

Duane Barry, Monday, 19 April 2021 12:29 (three years ago) link

he sued the NME and settled out of court

CP Radio Gorgeous (Colonel Poo), Monday, 19 April 2021 12:32 (three years ago) link

i always hated the smith's

Left, Monday, 19 April 2021 12:44 (three years ago) link

i think it's probably his management who wrote that post since iirc he isn't in the habit of writing in third person when he does personally make those sort of statements but he probably dictated the general gist of the post to them

ufo, Monday, 19 April 2021 12:48 (three years ago) link

it's probably some poor bastard from his band, same guy who was all "he was complaining about anti-brexit MEDIA, not anti-brexit audiences".

would also make sense because I can't really imagine Morrissey having a working knowledge of what the Simpsons or SNL even are, as they are not British pop hits from 1962

Daniel_Rf, Monday, 19 April 2021 12:50 (three years ago) link

get out bart i'm piss

eisimpleir (crĆ¼t), Monday, 19 April 2021 12:51 (three years ago) link

Yeah, this doesnā€™t read like Morrisseyā€™s writing at all, tbh.

Alba, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:07 (three years ago) link

But when a show stoops so low to use harshly hateful tactics like showing the Morrissey character with his belly hanging out of his shirt (when he has never looked like that at any point in his career) makes you wonder who the real hurtful, racist group is here.

But when a show stoops so low to use harshly hateful tactics like showing the Morrissey character with his belly hanging out of his shirt (when he has never looked like that at any point in his career) makes you wonder who the real hurtful, racist group is here.

But when a show stoops so low to use harshly hateful tactics like showing the Morrissey character with his belly hanging out of his shirt (when he has never looked like that at any point in his career) makes you wonder who the real hurtful, racist group is here.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:09 (three years ago) link

really makes u think

pomenitul, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:12 (three years ago) link

makes you think

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:13 (three years ago) link

lmao

80's hair metal , and good praise music ! (DJP), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:13 (three years ago) link

:D

pomenitul, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:16 (three years ago) link

racist against bequiffed Mancunian miserabilists

Neil S, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:21 (three years ago) link

Also, while I might quibble with aspects of Azaria's apology, I think publicly apologizing is taking that mirror and holding it up to yourself.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:41 (three years ago) link

the belly hanging out of the shirt thing makes me positive it IS morrissey

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:43 (three years ago) link

Last Night I Dreamt That I Was a Viking

You Can't Have the Woogie Without a Little Boogie (Old Lunch), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:44 (three years ago) link

Did a googles image search of Morrissey topless and now I have to go and bleach my eyes.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:46 (three years ago) link

Apparently he has a habit of taking off his shirt during encores and throwing it to the audience.

āœ–āœ–āœ– (Moka), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:51 (three years ago) link

Donā€™t search on youtube - Morrissey encore shirt - unless you got eyebleach ready.

āœ–āœ–āœ– (Moka), Monday, 19 April 2021 13:54 (three years ago) link

Is his belly hanging out of his shirt before he takes it off?

pomenitul, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:55 (three years ago) link

i went to a morrissey show where he took his shirt off and i wish i hadn't

ufo, Monday, 19 April 2021 13:56 (three years ago) link

the belly hanging out of the shirt thing makes me positive it IS morrissey


Yeah he was doing these weird updates on true-to-you for years and years before doing them on Facebook himself, 100% agree that that struck a serious nerve with him.

I looked up the actual details and like
https://consequence-net.cdn.ampproject.org/i/s/consequence.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Morrissey-Simpsons.jpeg?resize=768,433

However, after Lisa has an opportunity to attend a Snuffs reunion concert, she soon discovers that Quilloughby is no longer his former self ā€” instead, heā€™s now overweight, racist, and worst of all, he eats meat. ā€œI was [a vegan], until I found out veganism was invented by foreigners, for whom there are far too many on this planet,ā€ Quilloughby proclaims.


Interestingly he doesnā€™t pick up the meat thing at all, when previously heā€™s been quite happy to use his veganism as a reason for his misanthropy and racism.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:04 (three years ago) link

i went to a morrissey show where he took his shirt off and i wish i hadn't


Me except two shows.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:05 (three years ago) link

My condolences.

pomenitul, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:06 (three years ago) link

Come to think of it, I've never heard any of his solo material and at this point I'm not sure I want to anyway?

pomenitul, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

Wait sorry I hadnā€™t read the full screed, DONā€™T SUE ME STEPHEN

Meanwhile, ā€œMorrissey has never made a ā€˜cash grabā€™, hasnā€™t sued any people for their attacks, has never stopped performing great shows, and is still a serious vegan and strong supporter for animal rights,ā€ the singer proclaimed. ā€œBy suggesting all of the above in this episodeā€¦The Simpsonsā€™ hypocritical approach to their storyline says it all.ā€

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:07 (three years ago) link

Come to think of it, I've never heard any of his solo material and at this point I'm not sure I want to anyway?


I actually rate a lot of his solo work though I donā€™t think Iā€™ve listened to anything new heā€™s done since 2008 or so.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:08 (three years ago) link

[Viva Hate (such an innocuous title at the time!) holds up pretty well. Vini Reilly really shines on it.

henry s, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:14 (three years ago) link

his solo work is 100% garbage except for a handful of tracks off Viva Hate

mark e. smith-moon (f. hazel), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:15 (three years ago) link

Yeah any posts that donā€™t mention Vauxhall & I can be safely ignored. Still incredible.

Scamp Granada (gyac), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:18 (three years ago) link

his weird true-to-you statements were usually first-person though similar in vibe to this one

some of his solo work is decent but overall it generally comes across as a less distinctive version of his stuff with the smiths due to most of his collaborators being pretty boring musicians overall, vini reilly on viva hate being the exception. generally more straight-forward pop/glam rock in sound, less jangly than the smiths etc., and there was a weird rockabilly influence for a bit iirc?

don't have any desire to revisit any of it really these days though

ufo, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:23 (three years ago) link

bona drag is a really good comp, i'd probably choose that if i had to choose one

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:30 (three years ago) link

Viva Hate, seemed like such an innocuous title when all we knew was that he sang "shelve your Western plans and understand that life is hard enough when you belong here" on it. Sweet innocence.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:31 (three years ago) link

I agree that Vauxhall & I is OPO for solo Morrissey btw but feel even more strongly that if you're not a big Smiths fan to begin with, you'd be fine steering clear.

Sequel to Sadness (Sund4r), Monday, 19 April 2021 14:37 (three years ago) link

I like The Smiths but I wouldnā€™t describe myself as a fan.

pomenitul, Monday, 19 April 2021 14:38 (three years ago) link

everything through Vauxhall is strong and then the drop off is precipitous

akm, Monday, 19 April 2021 15:40 (three years ago) link


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