2020 nba offseason draft free agency etc

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It seems like simmons for harden is very workable and makes a lot of sense?

Matt Armstrong, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link

100% tho philly would need to throw in another salary. harden+gordon for simmons+horford matches almost perfectly

discourse stu (m bison), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 02:14 (three years ago) link

tho houston has gotta immediately trade westbrook if they do that.

discourse stu (m bison), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link

The Rockets are finalizing a trade to send Robert Covington to Portland for Trevor Ariza and 2020 first-round pick and 2021 protected first-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 17, 2020

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:29 (three years ago) link

houston trying to replenish the picks cupboard

discourse stu (m bison), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:30 (three years ago) link

Bucks sending Eric Bledsoe and George Hill and draft compensation to New Orleans, sources said. https://t.co/3K12F8WGI9

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 17, 2020

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:32 (three years ago) link

wow thats a good trade for the bucks

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:33 (three years ago) link

i'm very curious what the draft compensation is

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:34 (three years ago) link

gotta be at least 2 1RPs

discourse stu (m bison), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:34 (three years ago) link

thats really all new orleans cld get? how many picks in there

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:35 (three years ago) link

txp hat's what i'm thinking, maybe the pels went for first rounders several years out

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link

wow awesome

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:36 (three years ago) link

New Orleans is nearing completion of a deal to send G Jrue Holiday to Milwaukee for Eric Bledsoe, George Hill and what's described as "significant" draft compensation, sources tell ESPN. Teams are still working through the picks in trade.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 17, 2020

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:38 (three years ago) link

Bucks are finalizing a package that includes three future first-round picks to the Pelicans in deal, sources tell ESPN. https://t.co/7TYoogZHCD

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 17, 2020

there it is

discourse stu (m bison), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:40 (three years ago) link

it's been reported that the bucks never engaged on chris paul. we won't be able to settle this for years but 1 first rounder for cp3 vs. at least 2 first rounders for jrue is going to be interesting to follow.

xp holy shit three first rounders

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link

blazers giving up two firsts for covington is kinda nuts

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link

i'm sorry, i don't think jrue holiday is even close to that good

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link

want to see the protections on the portland picks but neither is covington

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:42 (three years ago) link

Okay that makes more sense; that trade looked like highway robbery at first. 3 first rounders and Bledsoe who they might be able to flip for one more to a bad/desperate team for an expiring 30 year old who hasn't been an all-star since 2013 is a pretty decent haul if the picks are lightly/unprotected. Happy Jrue will be seriously be contending for a title; him and his family are some of the nicest people in professional sports.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:43 (three years ago) link

milwaukee in a tough spot, its an understandable move but obvs dicey

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link

New Orleans also receives two future draft pick swaps from Milwaukee, along with three firsts, sources said. https://t.co/pZtkfvZkrD

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) November 17, 2020

....this is the anthony davis trade except for a guy who made one all-star team seven years ago

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:47 (three years ago) link

oh man thats idk...

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:47 (three years ago) link

they did not get a player who can solve their problem with scoring points against good teams who are playing defense

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:48 (three years ago) link

Goddam David Griffin saw all those "Sam Presti has literally 20 million first rounders till the heat death of the universe" tweets and got to work LOL.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:48 (three years ago) link

jrue is underrated but not by that much

ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:49 (three years ago) link

Besides the three future first-round picks going to New Orleans, there are also pick swaps included in the deal, per sources. All in all, this is shaping up to be a draft compensation package similar to New Orleans' deal for Anthony Davis with Lakers. https://t.co/HbnLxzUI96

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 17, 2020

uhhhhh..................

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:49 (three years ago) link

i'm stealing this from zach lowe iirc but if jrue hadn't destroyed the blazers in that series a couple years ago would anyone be rating him this highly?

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link

it's trades baby

ciderpress, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:51 (three years ago) link

aw i'm glad woj is on my level :)

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:51 (three years ago) link

this is crazy because even in the scenario where they re-sign giannis what are they even leaving themselves with to keep improving the team? giannis will be on a super max, middleton is on a max, and jrue will be on a pretty hefty extension. and you have almost completely deprived yourself of assets

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:52 (three years ago) link

i'm stealing this from zach lowe iirc but if jrue hadn't destroyed the blazers in that series a couple years ago would anyone be rating him this highly?

― call all destroyer, Monday, November 16, 2020 11:50 PM (fifty-one seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

ive read that hes really well rated/liked/respected around the league altogether, a ballers baller if you will

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:53 (three years ago) link

jrue is a good player, but if he really impacted winning that much, the pels would have been a better team for the past couple years.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:55 (three years ago) link

bucks clearly freaking the fuck out abt giannis leaving

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 04:58 (three years ago) link

as they should be, getting knocked out in the 2nd round without putting up much of a fight was a disaster

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:01 (three years ago) link

jrue has tremendous respect in the league and some gaudy advanced stats, but that trade is discounting the future pretty drastically

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:01 (three years ago) link

Jrue is basically the perfect 2b/3rd option on a contending team that already has it's shit together offensively and defensively. Much in the same way AD is the ultimate 1b/2nd option on a team that has a primary creator a la LeBron. If Giannis can develop some form of offensive repertoire besides tonka trucking to the rim come playoff time Jrue can absolutely be the piece that puts the Bucks over the hump they've been stuck in. Marc Stein is insinuating that thr Bucks are actually confident Giannis will re-up; this might've been a Kawhi-esque "Go get me another star and I'll commit" type of deal. Would be a win-win for both teams if true.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:04 (three years ago) link

yeah wldnt be surprised if giannis signed off on this/agreed to stay in which case they bucks didnt really have a choice

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:11 (three years ago) link

and i do think jrue is a really good player but im not sure if he solves the bucks particular issues around having guys who can generate good looks

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:12 (three years ago) link

For the Bucks, they were able to acquire Jrue Holiday without costing themselves any of their key core players. Three firsts and two pick swaps isn’t an immense price to pay with @Giannis_An34’s decision looming on signing his extension.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) November 17, 2020

The last two weeks have been filled with chatter that Giannis Antetokounmpo indeed plans to sign his five-year supermax with the Bucks before the Dec. 21 deadline to do so ...

The Bucks just made a trade that suggests they must believe it

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) November 17, 2020

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:14 (three years ago) link

giannis kneecapping his franchise as ransom for him re-signing... interesting strategy

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:15 (three years ago) link

"the lebron"

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:15 (three years ago) link

xp that's my read on it, I think he really does want to stay in Milwaukee but realizes he's way too good to not have a title

giving up 3 1st rounders sucks but they were a 1 seed the last 2 years how good are those picks really gonna be

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:15 (three years ago) link

xp Yea, if only they had a guy like Malcolm Brogdon to help them with that lolol. Bucks refusal to pay him looking more and more silly by the day.

Sabre of Paradise (trevor phillips), Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:16 (three years ago) link

at least when the heat had to sign and trade basically every pick under the sun for lebron and chris bosh they were.... getting lebron and chris bosh

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:17 (three years ago) link

yeah if giannis is staying its a lot easier to give those picks up

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:17 (three years ago) link

hmmm sounds like it's time to have another conversation about opportunity cost :)

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:19 (three years ago) link

omg this covington trade is insane, do the blazers know they're prob not a playoff team next year and just traded two lottery picks for robert covington bc they should know that!!!

Clay, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link

im not saying they did the best lol xp

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:20 (three years ago) link

unless giannis made them do it as a prerequisite to him resigning in which case they did the best

lag∞n, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:21 (three years ago) link

i guess i'm not sure what the Bucks should be doing here, they have a once-in-a-generation talent who's primed to win now, no good draft picks, and a lot of money committed to Middleton & Bledsoe. this is probably the best they can do right now

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 November 2020 05:23 (three years ago) link


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