To expand, Islamophobia moves papers and votes in this country, I would expect the party to treat it the way they treated the recent report into anti-black discrimination and the EHRC’s failures there. I cbf linking it rn but there was that thread after the GE about how racism factored heavily into anti-Corbyn messaging that has always struck me as an under-acknowledged truth.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link
Really important for the leadership to take this seriously. Mosques will not hesitate to coordinate abstentions and with the council elections looming...
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link
My local clp has a big Asian membership and something like 90% of them voted for Starmer in the leadership election. I hope they are now regretting it and planning to suitably punish the party for his bullshit.
― calzino, Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link
I'm assuming it's the old They've Got Nowhere Else To Go tactic that has worked so well for the Labour Party in the past.
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link
I think Starmer choosing 'Three Lions' on DID is the final push I needed.
― Piedie Gimbel, Sunday, 15 November 2020 09:26 (three years ago) link
I thought people were just joking about that. jesus wept.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 09:28 (three years ago) link
lmao
― ||||||||, Sunday, 15 November 2020 09:30 (three years ago) link
Amazing.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 15 November 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link
This is on rn but I’m disinclined to find my bbc login or listen to his voice so
― scampus fugit (gyac), Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link
would rather have boiling tar poured into my ears.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:08 (three years ago) link
I thought he might have surprised some people with some genuinely nice choices, but it sounds like 90% focus group piffle and 10 % Broon pretending to like the Arctic Monkeys.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link
Tbftsksqcmp, I doubt he could do a worse one than Theresa May. Just utterly irredeemable, Jesus Christ. Even when the choices aren’t bad, the reasons are horrendous.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:20 (three years ago) link
I listened to it. Terrible. Some Grenfell charity version of "Bridge Over Troubled Water" with Stormzy (but of course) on it, get tae fuck, Starmer. Kinda hate DID anyway, I hate the fact that you need a reason to choose the music, beyond the fact that it's just stuff you fucking like, I'm pretty sure it was not always like that. I realize that's because most of their guests never listen to music and have no interest in it, instead they prefer listening to their own voices and have a deep abiding interest in themselves.
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:50 (three years ago) link
Starmer has this uncanny ability - that just when you think you've got the measure of what a terrible waste of space he is - he lifts off another layer of this rotten stinking edifice that houses this soulless wisp of a barely sentient lifeform called Keith within it, and reveals himself yet again to be even worse than you previously thought he was.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link
Lol
Already dreading Keir Starmer’s Desert Island Discs. The theme from the Hovis ad. Elgar’s cello concerto. Something by Stormzy. Dreadlock Holiday by 10cc for some reason. Favourite book: The Complete Dad’s Army Scripts. Luxury: a keg of Adnam’s Ghost Ship.— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 22, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:06 (three years ago) link
^^^ that I don't even know if this is parody or his actual choices sums the man up
― Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link
note that he didn't suggest something too on the nose like Three Lions, that would be going too far.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link
He claimed he was in the crowd at the Germany game - ha ha, you fucking lost!
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:13 (three years ago) link
"World in Motion" would have been the hipster choice so i think we can accept Kieth just likes C-tier indie music and pretending to like football, oh noes that's what the crazy guy said about Corbyn the other day, what a dilemma
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link
no true football fan gives a fuck about England anyway
i like the hinted at subtext that Kieth's dad hated him because he knew what a conniving Tory climber he was, don't know if this made the rubbish DID
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:15 (three years ago) link
Well, he supports Arsenal so his credentials as a true football fan are dubious at best.
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link
normally policing the authenticity of what somebody claims to like is bad but i think we can make an exception for this dead-eyed kermit-voiced careerist
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:19 (three years ago) link
at least when Corbyn was pretending to like rock music to an adoring crowd at Prenton Park in '17 it was obv false, but at least it was funny.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:22 (three years ago) link
Corbyn always had a "i have no idea what you daft kids are doing, but carry on" vibe
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:24 (three years ago) link
until a politician's DID selection is 10 psychic TV live releases or entirely stuff zappa recorded at ircam we shd always accept it is in no way "authentic" but instead entirely spad-driven, plus the spad is low tier and ill paid, hence the effort we put into reading it and clowning it dwarfs the effort put into selecting and explaining it
granted 3 lions is the biggest challenge ever mounted on my commitment to this^^^ line -- but still it fails and still i hold firm
― mark s, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link
"do you now or have you ever subscribed to the wire" screamed senator mccarthy
― mark s, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link
senator stereolab as he later became
"The Difference Between Me and You Is That I'm Not on Trial" screamed senator mclusky
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link
I realize that's because most of their guests never listen to music and have no interest in it, instead they prefer listening to their own voices and have a deep abiding interest in themselves.david suchet choosing the theme from poirot was the ne plus ultra of this.
― neith moon (ledge), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:32 (three years ago) link
come on, that's a banger
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:32 (three years ago) link
'True' football fandom reeks of Hoffman Forum snobbery imho (says this Arsenal fan)
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link
unless you've done a tour of duty of all the basement football grounds and witnessed your team getting arseholed by Macclesfield on a pissy rain drenched Tuesday night, then you just aren't a real Psychic TV fan.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:38 (three years ago) link
fond memories of Wolves getting knocked out of the FA cup first round by Sol Invictus in 1986
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link
Baddiel, Skinner & The Lightning SeedsThree LionsThree Lions '98.
not only does he pick this but he picks the worst version of it!
― boxedjoy, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:47 (three years ago) link
Whenever a politician appears on Desert Island Discs, sceptics wonder whether the chosen tracks have been approved or even curated by special advisers, or run past a focus group. Keir Starmer insists that his eight discs are definitely his own personal selection: “if you run into anyone who has known me for a long time, they will tell you this is the genuine Keir Starmer list.”
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link
he has been into that Grenfell record for a long time has he?
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link
I wonder if there are any more Stormzy songs that might be more relevant to him.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Sunday, 15 November 2020 13:02 (three years ago) link
Some say his decision to include a second referendum with Remain on the ballot in the Labour manifesto cost the party the 2019 election. “Of course I acknowledge this came up on the doorstep in different ways across the country,” he says. “In the North West, North East and parts of the Midlands it came up in a negative way, I’ve got to accept that and that’s a fair challenge. Obviously it was differently received in places like Scotland. "
good to hear his disastrously fatal PV 2nd Ref position was so well received in Scotland where they have one s(h)itting Labour MP.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link
aye but it might have been zero without that principled stance on brexit that we all loved so much on this side of the border
― you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 15 November 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link
you're never gonna shift Murray without some kind of block and tackle arrangement
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link
One of the weird things you see on twitter is the goings on at YL. Very weird how the leadership are bothering them at all.
Young members put their faith in me as Chair of Young Labour to represent them. As a democratic socialist I stand with young members and their right to engage with the Labour party’s long standing democratic traditions. Now, more than ever, young people's voices need to be heard. pic.twitter.com/LL1aHSHT2g— Jess Barnard (@JessicaLBarnard) November 23, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 11:00 (three years ago) link
Members with household incomes under £20k: 83% agreed with 2019 manifesto, 62% thought it was wrong to not restore whip to Corbyn, 55% think the party is headed in wrong direction.The factional divide within the Labour Party is also a class divide. https://t.co/MuhQbRtxWZ— Callum Cant (@CallumCant1) November 26, 2020
― scampus fugit (gyac), Friday, 27 November 2020 09:40 (three years ago) link
It would be, we can't let the idea that the working classes are anything other than knuckle dragging racist morons who are dying to vote Tory gain any leeway.
― ILXceptionalism (Tom D.), Friday, 27 November 2020 09:48 (three years ago) link
one person on my twitter was constantly ranting that people's vote was class war and out to destroy corbynism last year, seems sort of prescient now even though I was blithely thinking "chill mate" at the time! Now it's quite clear Starmer is pro-austerity then there is zero harm reduction/self-interest in voting for the cunt, particularly for the sizable section of precariat members (which probably includes lots of middle-class people as well tbf) that joined Labour to support Corbynism, might as well just kill him instead!
― calzino, Friday, 27 November 2020 09:57 (three years ago) link
Now it's quite clear Starmer is pro-austerity
I'm not clear what he is pro- or anti- on any given day.
He just comes across as pro focus grouped to bend in the wind in such a way that 45% of people who are 60% likely to vote won't find it objectionable or something.
― Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 27 November 2020 10:20 (three years ago) link
have you not heard his shadow chancellor? who is not one for bold pronouncements - unless it is basically agreeing with the old tory 2010 - attack line that Labour used to spend too much. And do seriously think he's not pro-austerity? I mean you might have to wait for a few weeks before the next election before the cunt actually puts any concrete policy statements, but I'd put my life savings on the cunt being pro-austerity!
― calzino, Friday, 27 November 2020 10:26 (three years ago) link
From his social media in recent days, I am pretty sure he is resolutely pro pay rises for armed cops!
― Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 27 November 2020 10:27 (three years ago) link
yeah he didn't think the 2.5% rise the tories gave them last year was enough
― calzino, Friday, 27 November 2020 10:28 (three years ago) link
all the messaging is basically what you got from Miliband Labour but now with extra armed-cop loving zeal!
― calzino, Friday, 27 November 2020 10:31 (three years ago) link