have you quit the labour party yet?

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what was the terfiness?

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link

It was pretty clearly expressed terfy bigotry, not the subtle type.

it's a good reminder really that even if you started a new party, it would attract a massive bunch of unpalatable "committed-socialist" "lifelong anti-racist" "proud trade unionist" wankers with seriously problematic luggage - and just as fucking awful as most of the right-wing of the PLP in their own way!

calzino, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link

no shit, but if this isn’t buried I’ll be surprised.

Over half of Muslim members don't trust the leadership on Islamophobia or trust the complaints process.

Respondents also cited Starmer's backtrack on Kashmir, weakening of stance on Palestine & Labour's association with Prevent as key issues https://t.co/Qc3lTYiQ7E

— Ilyas Nagdee (@ilyas_nagdee) November 13, 2020

You guys are ridiculous because I’m more on the left than you (Left), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link

also even beyond the williamson/galloway types the famous hard left of this party is so appalling on sex work that mentioning names would be redundant / a waste of time

You guys are ridiculous because I’m more on the left than you (Left), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link

This report by Labour Muslim Network is a considered piece of work that must be treated seriously. @LabourMuslims has worked extremely hard in recruiting and mobilising within the Muslim community for Labour, especially amongst the younger generation. These voices must be heard. https://t.co/2mgrP45CTg

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) November 14, 2020

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 November 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link

Lol no one cares

scampus fugit (gyac), Saturday, 14 November 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link

Not caring about Muslims is it

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 November 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link

To expand, Islamophobia moves papers and votes in this country, I would expect the party to treat it the way they treated the recent report into anti-black discrimination and the EHRC’s failures there. I cbf linking it rn but there was that thread after the GE about how racism factored heavily into anti-Corbyn messaging that has always struck me as an under-acknowledged truth.

scampus fugit (gyac), Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link

Really important for the leadership to take this seriously. Mosques will not hesitate to coordinate abstentions and with the council elections looming...

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link

My local clp has a big Asian membership and something like 90% of them voted for Starmer in the leadership election. I hope they are now regretting it and planning to suitably punish the party for his bullshit.

calzino, Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

I'm assuming it's the old They've Got Nowhere Else To Go tactic that has worked so well for the Labour Party in the past.

Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

I think Starmer choosing 'Three Lions' on DID is the final push I needed.

Piedie Gimbel, Sunday, 15 November 2020 09:26 (three years ago) link

I thought people were just joking about that. jesus wept.

calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 09:28 (three years ago) link

lmao

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Amazing.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 15 November 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link

This is on rn but I’m disinclined to find my bbc login or listen to his voice so

scampus fugit (gyac), Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link

would rather have boiling tar poured into my ears.

calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:08 (three years ago) link

I thought he might have surprised some people with some genuinely nice choices, but it sounds like 90% focus group piffle and 10 % Broon pretending to like the Arctic Monkeys.

calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link

Tbftsksqcmp, I doubt he could do a worse one than Theresa May. Just utterly irredeemable, Jesus Christ. Even when the choices aren’t bad, the reasons are horrendous.

scampus fugit (gyac), Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:20 (three years ago) link

I listened to it. Terrible. Some Grenfell charity version of "Bridge Over Troubled Water" with Stormzy (but of course) on it, get tae fuck, Starmer. Kinda hate DID anyway, I hate the fact that you need a reason to choose the music, beyond the fact that it's just stuff you fucking like, I'm pretty sure it was not always like that. I realize that's because most of their guests never listen to music and have no interest in it, instead they prefer listening to their own voices and have a deep abiding interest in themselves.

Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:50 (three years ago) link

Starmer has this uncanny ability - that just when you think you've got the measure of what a terrible waste of space he is - he lifts off another layer of this rotten stinking edifice that houses this soulless wisp of a barely sentient lifeform called Keith within it, and reveals himself yet again to be even worse than you previously thought he was.

calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link

Lol

Already dreading Keir Starmer’s Desert Island Discs. The theme from the Hovis ad. Elgar’s cello concerto. Something by Stormzy. Dreadlock Holiday by 10cc for some reason. Favourite book: The Complete Dad’s Army Scripts. Luxury: a keg of Adnam’s Ghost Ship.

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 22, 2020

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:06 (three years ago) link

^^^ that I don't even know if this is parody or his actual choices sums the man up

Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link

note that he didn't suggest something too on the nose like Three Lions, that would be going too far.

calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link

He claimed he was in the crowd at the Germany game - ha ha, you fucking lost!

Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:13 (three years ago) link

"World in Motion" would have been the hipster choice so i think we can accept Kieth just likes C-tier indie music and pretending to like football, oh noes that's what the crazy guy said about Corbyn the other day, what a dilemma

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link

no true football fan gives a fuck about England anyway

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link

i like the hinted at subtext that Kieth's dad hated him because he knew what a conniving Tory climber he was, don't know if this made the rubbish DID

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:15 (three years ago) link

Well, he supports Arsenal so his credentials as a true football fan are dubious at best.

Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link

normally policing the authenticity of what somebody claims to like is bad but i think we can make an exception for this dead-eyed kermit-voiced careerist

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:19 (three years ago) link

at least when Corbyn was pretending to like rock music to an adoring crowd at Prenton Park in '17 it was obv false, but at least it was funny.

calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:22 (three years ago) link

Corbyn always had a "i have no idea what you daft kids are doing, but carry on" vibe

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:24 (three years ago) link

until a politician's DID selection is 10 psychic TV live releases or entirely stuff zappa recorded at ircam we shd always accept it is in no way "authentic" but instead entirely spad-driven, plus the spad is low tier and ill paid, hence the effort we put into reading it and clowning it dwarfs the effort put into selecting and explaining it

granted 3 lions is the biggest challenge ever mounted on my commitment to this^^^ line -- but still it fails and still i hold firm

mark s, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link

"do you now or have you ever subscribed to the wire" screamed senator mccarthy

mark s, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link

senator stereolab as he later became

mark s, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link

"The Difference Between Me and You Is That I'm Not on Trial" screamed senator mclusky

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

I realize that's because most of their guests never listen to music and have no interest in it, instead they prefer listening to their own voices and have a deep abiding interest in themselves.

david suchet choosing the theme from poirot was the ne plus ultra of this.

neith moon (ledge), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:32 (three years ago) link

come on, that's a banger

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:32 (three years ago) link

'True' football fandom reeks of Hoffman Forum snobbery imho (says this Arsenal fan)

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link

unless you've done a tour of duty of all the basement football grounds and witnessed your team getting arseholed by Macclesfield on a pissy rain drenched Tuesday night, then you just aren't a real Psychic TV fan.

calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:38 (three years ago) link

fond memories of Wolves getting knocked out of the FA cup first round by Sol Invictus in 1986

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link

Baddiel, Skinner & The Lightning Seeds
Three Lions
Three Lions '98.

not only does he pick this but he picks the worst version of it!

boxedjoy, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:47 (three years ago) link

Whenever a politician appears on Desert Island Discs, sceptics wonder whether the chosen tracks have been approved or even curated by special advisers, or run past a focus group. Keir Starmer insists that his eight discs are definitely his own personal selection: “if you run into anyone who has known me for a long time, they will tell you this is the genuine Keir Starmer list.”

calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:58 (three years ago) link

he has been into that Grenfell record for a long time has he?

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 13:01 (three years ago) link

I wonder if there are any more Stormzy songs that might be more relevant to him.

scampus fugit (gyac), Sunday, 15 November 2020 13:02 (three years ago) link

Some say his decision to include a second referendum with Remain on the ballot in the Labour manifesto cost the party the 2019 election. “Of course I acknowledge this came up on the doorstep in different ways across the country,” he says. “In the North West, North East and parts of the Midlands it came up in a negative way, I’ve got to accept that and that’s a fair challenge. Obviously it was differently received in places like Scotland. "

good to hear his disastrously fatal PV 2nd Ref position was so well received in Scotland where they have one s(h)itting Labour MP.

calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link

aye but it might have been zero without that principled stance on brexit that we all loved so much on this side of the border

you are like a scampicane, there's calm in your fries (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 15 November 2020 13:12 (three years ago) link

you're never gonna shift Murray without some kind of block and tackle arrangement

big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 13:14 (three years ago) link

One of the weird things you see on twitter is the goings on at YL. Very weird how the leadership are bothering them at all.

Young members put their faith in me as Chair of Young Labour to represent them. As a democratic socialist I stand with young members and their right to engage with the Labour party’s long standing democratic traditions. Now, more than ever, young people's voices need to be heard. pic.twitter.com/LL1aHSHT2g

— Jess Barnard (@JessicaLBarnard) November 23, 2020

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 24 November 2020 11:00 (three years ago) link

Members with household incomes under £20k: 83% agreed with 2019 manifesto, 62% thought it was wrong to not restore whip to Corbyn, 55% think the party is headed in wrong direction.

The factional divide within the Labour Party is also a class divide. https://t.co/MuhQbRtxWZ

— Callum Cant (@CallumCant1) November 26, 2020

this seems under discussed

scampus fugit (gyac), Friday, 27 November 2020 09:40 (three years ago) link


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