don't call it a comeback she's been here for months
― nashwan, Friday, 13 November 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link
iirc Pidcock is good not bad, or did I get that mixed up?
― timber euros (seandalai), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link
she's decent i think, just joking about how she's dropped off the radar since the beginning of the year
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link
she made some racially clueless comments in the leadership election iirc
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link
She’s also a terf
― scampus fugit (gyac), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link
ah fuck don't remember that, bollocks to her then
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link
The left chose to go along with her rather than ask tough questions. Very grim stuff xp
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
also she was very Chris Williamson adjacent
― calzino, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:24 (three years ago) link
wait what i was still under the impression she was a good guy v sad
― plax (ico), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:28 (three years ago) link
what was the terfiness?
― Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:31 (three years ago) link
It was pretty clearly expressed terfy bigotry, not the subtle type.
it's a good reminder really that even if you started a new party, it would attract a massive bunch of unpalatable "committed-socialist" "lifelong anti-racist" "proud trade unionist" wankers with seriously problematic luggage - and just as fucking awful as most of the right-wing of the PLP in their own way!
― calzino, Friday, 13 November 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link
no shit, but if this isn’t buried I’ll be surprised.
Over half of Muslim members don't trust the leadership on Islamophobia or trust the complaints process. Respondents also cited Starmer's backtrack on Kashmir, weakening of stance on Palestine & Labour's association with Prevent as key issues https://t.co/Qc3lTYiQ7E— Ilyas Nagdee (@ilyas_nagdee) November 13, 2020
― You guys are ridiculous because I’m more on the left than you (Left), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:39 (three years ago) link
also even beyond the williamson/galloway types the famous hard left of this party is so appalling on sex work that mentioning names would be redundant / a waste of time
― You guys are ridiculous because I’m more on the left than you (Left), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:48 (three years ago) link
This report by Labour Muslim Network is a considered piece of work that must be treated seriously. @LabourMuslims has worked extremely hard in recruiting and mobilising within the Muslim community for Labour, especially amongst the younger generation. These voices must be heard. https://t.co/2mgrP45CTg— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) November 14, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 November 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link
Lol no one cares
― scampus fugit (gyac), Saturday, 14 November 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link
Not caring about Muslims is it
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 November 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link
To expand, Islamophobia moves papers and votes in this country, I would expect the party to treat it the way they treated the recent report into anti-black discrimination and the EHRC’s failures there. I cbf linking it rn but there was that thread after the GE about how racism factored heavily into anti-Corbyn messaging that has always struck me as an under-acknowledged truth.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link
Really important for the leadership to take this seriously. Mosques will not hesitate to coordinate abstentions and with the council elections looming...
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:33 (three years ago) link
My local clp has a big Asian membership and something like 90% of them voted for Starmer in the leadership election. I hope they are now regretting it and planning to suitably punish the party for his bullshit.
― calzino, Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link
I'm assuming it's the old They've Got Nowhere Else To Go tactic that has worked so well for the Labour Party in the past.
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 November 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link
I think Starmer choosing 'Three Lions' on DID is the final push I needed.
― Piedie Gimbel, Sunday, 15 November 2020 09:26 (three years ago) link
I thought people were just joking about that. jesus wept.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 09:28 (three years ago) link
lmao
― ||||||||, Sunday, 15 November 2020 09:30 (three years ago) link
Amazing.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Sunday, 15 November 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link
This is on rn but I’m disinclined to find my bbc login or listen to his voice so
― scampus fugit (gyac), Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:04 (three years ago) link
would rather have boiling tar poured into my ears.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:08 (three years ago) link
I thought he might have surprised some people with some genuinely nice choices, but it sounds like 90% focus group piffle and 10 % Broon pretending to like the Arctic Monkeys.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link
Tbftsksqcmp, I doubt he could do a worse one than Theresa May. Just utterly irredeemable, Jesus Christ. Even when the choices aren’t bad, the reasons are horrendous.
― scampus fugit (gyac), Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:20 (three years ago) link
I listened to it. Terrible. Some Grenfell charity version of "Bridge Over Troubled Water" with Stormzy (but of course) on it, get tae fuck, Starmer. Kinda hate DID anyway, I hate the fact that you need a reason to choose the music, beyond the fact that it's just stuff you fucking like, I'm pretty sure it was not always like that. I realize that's because most of their guests never listen to music and have no interest in it, instead they prefer listening to their own voices and have a deep abiding interest in themselves.
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 November 2020 11:50 (three years ago) link
Starmer has this uncanny ability - that just when you think you've got the measure of what a terrible waste of space he is - he lifts off another layer of this rotten stinking edifice that houses this soulless wisp of a barely sentient lifeform called Keith within it, and reveals himself yet again to be even worse than you previously thought he was.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link
Lol
Already dreading Keir Starmer’s Desert Island Discs. The theme from the Hovis ad. Elgar’s cello concerto. Something by Stormzy. Dreadlock Holiday by 10cc for some reason. Favourite book: The Complete Dad’s Army Scripts. Luxury: a keg of Adnam’s Ghost Ship.— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 22, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:06 (three years ago) link
^^^ that I don't even know if this is parody or his actual choices sums the man up
― Clean-up on ILX (onimo), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:10 (three years ago) link
note that he didn't suggest something too on the nose like Three Lions, that would be going too far.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:12 (three years ago) link
He claimed he was in the crowd at the Germany game - ha ha, you fucking lost!
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:13 (three years ago) link
"World in Motion" would have been the hipster choice so i think we can accept Kieth just likes C-tier indie music and pretending to like football, oh noes that's what the crazy guy said about Corbyn the other day, what a dilemma
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:14 (three years ago) link
no true football fan gives a fuck about England anyway
i like the hinted at subtext that Kieth's dad hated him because he knew what a conniving Tory climber he was, don't know if this made the rubbish DID
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:15 (three years ago) link
Well, he supports Arsenal so his credentials as a true football fan are dubious at best.
― Boring blighters bloaters (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:16 (three years ago) link
normally policing the authenticity of what somebody claims to like is bad but i think we can make an exception for this dead-eyed kermit-voiced careerist
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:19 (three years ago) link
at least when Corbyn was pretending to like rock music to an adoring crowd at Prenton Park in '17 it was obv false, but at least it was funny.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:22 (three years ago) link
Corbyn always had a "i have no idea what you daft kids are doing, but carry on" vibe
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:24 (three years ago) link
until a politician's DID selection is 10 psychic TV live releases or entirely stuff zappa recorded at ircam we shd always accept it is in no way "authentic" but instead entirely spad-driven, plus the spad is low tier and ill paid, hence the effort we put into reading it and clowning it dwarfs the effort put into selecting and explaining it
granted 3 lions is the biggest challenge ever mounted on my commitment to this^^^ line -- but still it fails and still i hold firm
― mark s, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:25 (three years ago) link
"do you now or have you ever subscribed to the wire" screamed senator mccarthy
― mark s, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:27 (three years ago) link
senator stereolab as he later became
"The Difference Between Me and You Is That I'm Not on Trial" screamed senator mclusky
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link
I realize that's because most of their guests never listen to music and have no interest in it, instead they prefer listening to their own voices and have a deep abiding interest in themselves.david suchet choosing the theme from poirot was the ne plus ultra of this.
― neith moon (ledge), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:32 (three years ago) link
come on, that's a banger
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:32 (three years ago) link
'True' football fandom reeks of Hoffman Forum snobbery imho (says this Arsenal fan)
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link
unless you've done a tour of duty of all the basement football grounds and witnessed your team getting arseholed by Macclesfield on a pissy rain drenched Tuesday night, then you just aren't a real Psychic TV fan.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:38 (three years ago) link
fond memories of Wolves getting knocked out of the FA cup first round by Sol Invictus in 1986
― big man on scampus (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 November 2020 12:43 (three years ago) link