What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

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I was going to say upthread, and then edited my post down: The extent to which charter schools have poured into communities of color, esp in historically Black NYC, which is the only landscape I'm personally familiar with, it is in part the city's and the DOE's own fault for under-serving Black communities for EVER. I don't blame parents (NB I do blame white parents who move into the area and then don't send their kids to public schools though!). I definitely blame elected officials who take money from charter networks. Even if you want parents to have adequate options, you don't have to profit from shadowy corporate interest actors.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

If you're interested in this subject, the podcast Nice White Parents is very good.

jaymc, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:19 (three years ago) link

in orbit otm.

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

Public schools are one of America’s two good ideas, along with birthright citizenship, and I hate to see them undermined in any way.

The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

Public schools are one of America’s two good ideas, along with birthright citizenship, and I hate to see them undermined in any way.

You forgot <insert a typical Ken Burns subject matter>.

Van Horn Street, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

I’m not giving TR the credit tbh

The Bosom Manor Michaelmas Special (silby), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:23 (three years ago) link

Dumb question: isn’t trying new things with education not possible with the already established public school system?

― Van Horn Street, Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:14 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The problem, in loose terms, with many of the things the charters schools want to "try" is that they're things like, "Only hire un-unionized teachers so they can't demand any labor standards and over-work them until they burn out!" and "Force insufficiently obedient children out through punitive discipline because you aren't obliged to accommodate all the students who enroll in you!" and "Make demands on parents that many families in crisis can't meet, and then force them out when they 'fail.'"

xxp Nice White Parents was BRILLIANT. In the first two episodes I was like HAVE YOU BEEN SPYING ON MY SCHOOL??!

The idea of free, non-public schools for innovation and as a possible testing ground for successful tactics you hope to scale up later, is not inherently bad! But it opened the door to anti-public education actors who have just jammed that wedge in with a vengeance.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

The prose is High Academic, but Margaret Hagerman’s White Kids: Growing Up with Privilege in a Racially Divided America is an excellent recent study.

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link

On an unrelated topic:

https://t.co/4D4LVOyYhc pic.twitter.com/MwNIc41Szj

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) November 12, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:52 (three years ago) link

I would like to defund Joe's butt

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

also AOC's death-stare is and has always been lethal

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

crunch bird, my ass

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

-Jackson Browne

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

holy shit, that AOC glare

Patriotic Goiter (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:03 (three years ago) link

there's a non-zero chance that she's won multiple fights

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

she's too good for these chumps

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:09 (three years ago) link

i know it's not about celebs but it's nice to have a really gifted person on the left for once.

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:10 (three years ago) link

if looks could defund butts

Wayne Grotski (symsymsym), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:49 (three years ago) link

defund is not enough, abolish joe's butt

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:39 (three years ago) link

"By defund Joe's butt, we don't mean take all of it away, we just mean parts of it would be better used for other things!"

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 12 November 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

i'm a very good judge of butts and i say it's all gotta go

Give me a Chad Smith-type feel (map), Thursday, 12 November 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link

New York Times covering the abolitionist movement in 1859: "They are as rancorous and abusive as if they were on the point of utter annihilation. Their speeches sound more like the ravings of Bedlamites than the utterances of men seeking the accomplishment of a practical object." pic.twitter.com/V0RHFA140O

— Waleed Shahid (@_waleedshahid) November 12, 2020

Must have been the bad slogans.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Thursday, 12 November 2020 23:53 (three years ago) link

Movements can succeed with bad slogans or fail with bad ones

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 12 November 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link

tell me more about these Bedlamites, and how i can join

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Friday, 13 November 2020 00:04 (three years ago) link

Rancor and abuse IIRC

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Friday, 13 November 2020 00:05 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/VOgiyTM.png

@oneposter (⛰️) (sic), Saturday, 14 November 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link

jules rules

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 14 November 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link

streaming Among US again, with jagmeet Singh this time, starting in a few minutes

https://www.twitch.tv/aoc

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 November 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link

Contrapoints too.

umarell of the year (jmm), Saturday, 28 November 2020 00:08 (three years ago) link

When is Bernie going to play Among Us?

umarell of the year (jmm), Saturday, 28 November 2020 00:08 (three years ago) link

canadian special

Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 28 November 2020 00:08 (three years ago) link

her flaws? doesn't respond when I ask how things are going in twitch chat... the nerve!

Evan, Saturday, 28 November 2020 01:47 (three years ago) link

She's currently explaining League of Legends to Jagmeet Singh.

umarell of the year (jmm), Saturday, 28 November 2020 02:52 (three years ago) link

A Confederacy of Dunces https://t.co/zv1bJmKrZD

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) December 12, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 12 December 2020 01:46 (three years ago) link

Allen Fuckin' West

Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Saturday, 12 December 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

When I want an expert opinion on constitutional law I always seek out the chair of the Texas Republican Party, because who could be better informed? Certainly not all nine justices of the US Supreme Court!

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Saturday, 12 December 2020 01:55 (three years ago) link

somehow I got a campaign text message from “Lt. Col Allen West” during the run up to the election (srsly, how??) and if my response didn’t put me on a watchlist then the FBI is slippin

i am become boomer, destroyer of entitlements (will), Saturday, 12 December 2020 03:20 (three years ago) link

“I do think that we need new leadership in the Democratic Party … the internal dynamics of the House has made it such that there's very little option for succession,” said Ocasio-Cortez, who is 31. “It's easy for someone to say, ‘Oh well, you know, why don't you run?’ but the House is extraordinarily complex, and I'm not ready. It can't be me. I know that I couldn't do that job."

“Even conservative members of the party who think Nancy Pelosi is far too liberal for them don't necessarily have any viable alternatives, which is why whenever there's a challenge, it kind of collapses,” she continued. “And that is, I think, the result of just many years of power being concentrated in leadership with lack of … real grooming of a next generation of leadership

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

Asked directly if Pelosi and Schumer “need to go,” Ocasio-Cortez replied: “I mean, I think so.”

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

*I* think so
OR
I *think* so

loose Orwellian mobs (rob), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:23 (three years ago) link

Maybe it’s “i think, so...” and the author didnt continue with the quote

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

I do not know to what degree, if any, Pelosi made a conscious choice not to put other House Democrats in a strong position to challenge or replace her, but it is one of the tactics that naturally emerges among leadership groups. AOC is right that the position of Speaker is enormously complex and difficult and some period of apprenticeship is required to approach something like adequacy in that job. No one is likely to replace Pelosi that she hasn't already vetted and brought into a leadership role.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

https://prospect.org/api/amp/politics/establishment-strikes-back-aoc-versus-centrist-democrats/

But at least evil Trump is gone

xyzzzz__, Friday, 18 December 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link

Progressives' loyalty to Biden will ensure them a "seat at the table" IIRC.

onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Friday, 18 December 2020 18:39 (three years ago) link

Disappointing.

jaymc, Friday, 18 December 2020 18:42 (three years ago) link

If Biden has sense, he'll recall the old political wisdom that it's better to have the progressives "inside the tent pissing out, than outside the tent pissing in". Based on the distribution of opinion on ilx, I'm pretty sure there are some who will prefer to remain outside pissing in, regardless.

Respectfully Yours, (Aimless), Friday, 18 December 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

you know Biden, he hates old political wisdom

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Friday, 18 December 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link


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