What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

I can understand all those thoughts, and I have a lot of thoughts about them myself, and it's definitely an interesting and complex subject. But aside from those thoughts, there's no question that their growth erodes teachers' unions.

How does it work?

― Van Horn Street, Thursday, November 12, 2020 1:49 PM (forty-seven seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

TBH I can't guarantee that "nearly all" is true, but many of them simply hire for-profit "management companies" and all kinds of for-profit vendors, to the point that the school is largely de facto run by for profit companies and the non-profit is not much more than a conduit.

My usual line on charters is that I don't fault any parent for choosing one based on their circumstances, and that there are certainly individual charters that are great, but that the phenomenon overall is net negative for public education and most of the successes cannot be scaled.

My nieces attend a charter school whose owners broke promises about Black enrollment a decade ago; these schools tend to open in minority-heavy communities because real estate is cheaper. Educationally it's solid, but several of the county's best public schools surround my sister's house.

xp Close to my feelings. The whole industry stinks of "public-private partnerships" (aka robbing public funds so corporations can profit) and the Republican mantra of "fuck you, i got mine" to abandoning public schools, but palatable enough to the Democratic donor class that wants to fence off their own kids.

I mean if it was my kid and the only good option was a charter I would damn well put them in the charter for sure.

The more I read about it, the less it makes sense to me.

I read TSF's post as mordantly saying the same thing that everyone is counterarguing to it, but maybe I was being naive

Totally agree with your conflicting feelings, DJP. I like the idea of trying new things to improve education with charter schools, but there is a ton of grift going on in that sector, and there are some straight-up sleazy charter schools that should be shut down.

Dumb question: isn’t trying new things with education not possible with the already established public school system?

when DJI and DJP post in the same thread it does weird things to my brain

In the minds of many people, including liberals, public schools = dirty poor brown people

I was going to say upthread, and then edited my post down: The extent to which charter schools have poured into communities of color, esp in historically Black NYC, which is the only landscape I'm personally familiar with, it is in part the city's and the DOE's own fault for under-serving Black communities for EVER. I don't blame parents (NB I do blame white parents who move into the area and then don't send their kids to public schools though!). I definitely blame elected officials who take money from charter networks. Even if you want parents to have adequate options, you don't have to profit from shadowy corporate interest actors.

If you're interested in this subject, the podcast Nice White Parents is very good.

in orbit otm.

Public schools are one of America’s two good ideas, along with birthright citizenship, and I hate to see them undermined in any way.

Public schools are one of America’s two good ideas, along with birthright citizenship, and I hate to see them undermined in any way.

You forgot <insert a typical Ken Burns subject matter>.

I’m not giving TR the credit tbh

Dumb question: isn’t trying new things with education not possible with the already established public school system?

― Van Horn Street, Thursday, November 12, 2020 7:14 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The problem, in loose terms, with many of the things the charters schools want to "try" is that they're things like, "Only hire un-unionized teachers so they can't demand any labor standards and over-work them until they burn out!" and "Force insufficiently obedient children out through punitive discipline because you aren't obliged to accommodate all the students who enroll in you!" and "Make demands on parents that many families in crisis can't meet, and then force them out when they 'fail.'"

xxp Nice White Parents was BRILLIANT. In the first two episodes I was like HAVE YOU BEEN SPYING ON MY SCHOOL??!

The idea of free, non-public schools for innovation and as a possible testing ground for successful tactics you hope to scale up later, is not inherently bad! But it opened the door to anti-public education actors who have just jammed that wedge in with a vengeance.

The prose is High Academic, but Margaret Hagerman’s White Kids: Growing Up with Privilege in a Racially Divided America is an excellent recent study.

On an unrelated topic:

https://t.co/4D4LVOyYhc pic.twitter.com/MwNIc41Szj

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) November 12, 2020

I would like to defund Joe's butt

also AOC's death-stare is and has always been lethal

crunch bird, my ass

-Jackson Browne

holy shit, that AOC glare

there's a non-zero chance that she's won multiple fights

she's too good for these chumps

i know it's not about celebs but it's nice to have a really gifted person on the left for once.

if looks could defund butts

defund is not enough, abolish joe's butt

"By defund Joe's butt, we don't mean take all of it away, we just mean parts of it would be better used for other things!"

i'm a very good judge of butts and i say it's all gotta go

New York Times covering the abolitionist movement in 1859: "They are as rancorous and abusive as if they were on the point of utter annihilation. Their speeches sound more like the ravings of Bedlamites than the utterances of men seeking the accomplishment of a practical object." pic.twitter.com/V0RHFA140O

— Waleed Shahid (@_waleedshahid) November 12, 2020

Must have been the bad slogans.

Movements can succeed with bad slogans or fail with bad ones

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3ohzdDE5XOUmI6qnkY/source.gif

tell me more about these Bedlamites, and how i can join

Rancor and abuse IIRC

https://i.imgur.com/VOgiyTM.png

jules rules

streaming Among US again, with jagmeet Singh this time, starting in a few minutes

https://www.twitch.tv/aoc

Contrapoints too.

When is Bernie going to play Among Us?

canadian special

her flaws? doesn't respond when I ask how things are going in twitch chat... the nerve!

She's currently explaining League of Legends to Jagmeet Singh.

A Confederacy of Dunces https://t.co/zv1bJmKrZD

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) December 12, 2020

Allen Fuckin' West

When I want an expert opinion on constitutional law I always seek out the chair of the Texas Republican Party, because who could be better informed? Certainly not all nine justices of the US Supreme Court!

somehow I got a campaign text message from “Lt. Col Allen West” during the run up to the election (srsly, how??) and if my response didn’t put me on a watchlist then the FBI is slippin