DieHARD GamePOLL - Console Poll, vol. 3 - 5th Generation RESULTS

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Just need a few minutes to make sure my links are ok and a few more minutes to moan loudly about suikoden ii being too low

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

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50 - Um Jammer Lammy - 171 points / 3 Votes

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 18:46 (three years ago) link

My guitar is in my MIND!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 12 November 2020 18:54 (three years ago) link

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49 - Colin MacRae Rally - 174 points / 4 Votes

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 18:56 (three years ago) link

i like how the front of the MacRae Rally case highly resembles the function-first, ugly as hell, cluttered with advertisements from the trucks themselves

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 November 2020 18:59 (three years ago) link

VALUE SERIES DO NOT CROSS

american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:02 (three years ago) link

Guardian Heroes and Dragon Force both WAY TOO LOW

DJP, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

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48 - Chrono Cross - 178 points / 4 Votes

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

look is chrono cross flawed? sure

but STILL TOO LOW

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:11 (three years ago) link

I played the hell out of Lammy and even drew her on the whiteboard on my door, the first week of moving into the dorms (big dork alert). I hadn't seriously played PaRappa at that time but when I later did, I found the staccato syllables a lot harder to enjoy "jamming" or improvising with, which the game secretly wants to do. Whereas noodling around with weird guitar sounds and riffs just kinda works as a game mechanic or a toy to play with.

I also think the songs are really good (except the island/Hell one) - the firefighter one gets stuck in my head a lot!

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

starting to fear what's going to appear in the top 20 if these are so low

Nhex, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

Chrono Cross! made my list at #20. I've never played it again, since. Has anyone else? i'm curious how it holds up. at the time, having never played chrono trigger when chrono cross came out, I was very impressed by all the different characters you could play as, the interweaving stories and time-travel elements - basically all the things people love about Chrono Trigger

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

I'm wondering just how normcore I was (or am!) if I've only played like 2-3 of these games so far and voted only for one!

xp Karl did you play Chrono Cross for an hour?

I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

lol

DJP, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:16 (three years ago) link

Never played this, but then I never even played Chrono Trigger until this year

american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:17 (three years ago) link

lol, yes that was a very bad description of chrono cross. someone else do it! i have a job ok!!!

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:18 (three years ago) link

never forget: I just played Chrono Trigger for over an hour.

DJP, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:20 (three years ago) link

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47 - Panzer Dragoon Saga - 180 points / 1 First-place vote / 3 Votes

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:21 (three years ago) link

Guardian Heroes and Dragon Force both WAY TOO LOW

they're saturn exclusives. at least guardian heroes is available on the 360 and BC with the bone/series

speaking of, my #1, not even breaking the top 20 as expected

chihuahuau, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

i defy anyone to find a good full sized box art for that game lol i spent 20 minutes looking for that one alone!!!

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:25 (three years ago) link

this is the one that is inexplicably an rpg in a series of rail shooters right? i think the insert credit pod was talknig abt this one recently

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:26 (three years ago) link

yes, a very short and easy jrpg but the best thing ever for 98 me

like daytona usa, source code lost forever

chihuahuau, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:28 (three years ago) link

ugh sad :( how long is it? maybe i should try to emu, i never got to even touch a saturn in my life (idk if they even emu well?)

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

I played a few Saturn games in my research and they just seemed so much shabbier than the N64/PS games.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

fp

DJP, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:32 (three years ago) link

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46 - Shining Force III - 181 points / 3 Votes

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

that's what mr domino wants you to think, polyphonic. you must resist his evil influence

chihuahuau, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link

never forget: I just played Chrono Trigger for over an hour.

*slaps forehead*

obviously i haven't read that thread enough!

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:41 (three years ago) link

xp well, looks like my ballot will all place below 30, dunnit?

the first tactics game i ever played, dunno how it compares to contemporaneous fire emblem games, probably not as good? don't care, i loved it and even imported and played scenarios 2 and 3 in the mid 00s using a fan translation

PDS is about 20 hours i think? it dind't seem short at the time because it's was the first jrpg i ever played, and it's not like being 80+ hours is an advantage. its only real fault is being too easy

chihuahuau, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:42 (three years ago) link

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44 - Resident Evil 3: Nemesis - 181 points / 4 Votes

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

RE3 ratcheted up the dread so much with the possibility of nemesis showing up whenever that i don't think i ever finished it due to stress

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:45 (three years ago) link

that was a really weird time in the mid-to-late 90s, when 3D graphics allowed for more "sexy" characters, and then all the games started trying to get sexy, and the ads started to get sexy...but they all looked like...that

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

"that" as in the various games throughout this thread, not about the zombie on the back cover above.

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:48 (three years ago) link

What are you talking about Karl, Nemesis is plenty sexy

american primitive stylophone (zchyrs), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link

never forget: I just played Chrono Trigger for over an hour.

*slaps forehead*

obviously i haven't read that thread enough!

lol tbf I've never read past the thread title.

I want to luhbahguh babum gum (Leee), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:56 (three years ago) link

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44 - Ape Escape - 181 points / 4 Votes

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:58 (three years ago) link

SHINING FORCE III TOO LOW

DJP, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

the ads of this era really speak to not only what karl is talking about but also the overwhelming idea that kids with SNESes grew up into teens with PS1s and they went hard in the paint on edgy/sexy/violent/etc. i can't remember if any have come up yet but i know some are coming up where even kid-friendly NINTENDO answered the siren's call of edgy.

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

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43 - Grandia - 182 points / 5 Votes

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link

TOO LOW

the quintessential "i want to play this, bring it to europe already sega" game.

played it this year on the switch, the port is less than ideal but the game still owns, reminded me a lot of skies of arcadia but with a much better battle system, albeit too easy

chihuahuau, Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:12 (three years ago) link

btw is there vote splitting by platform on this, Will? or are those 5 voters combined sat + ps1?

chihuahuau, Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link

Votes were platform-agnostic unless specified by voters (which did not happen -- idk if there were any games with serious different versions over platforms this generation?)

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:15 (three years ago) link

like snes/genesis shadowrun or aladdin were entirely different games, afaik ps1 and saturn grandia were more or less the same game with better/worse performance and more/less content (iirc)

that's all from something i maybe read 20 years ago in a magazine tho so i can't really say

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

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42 - Xenogears - 184 points / 3 Votes

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:16 (three years ago) link

for those counting at home that is 6 underrated rpgs in the past 10 reveals

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:17 (three years ago) link

i mean the thing with xenogears is once you get to that final disc (can't remember if it was two or three discs, but either way the last disc is less than half of the game) it gets extremely texty and weird and just not as novel and exciting and thrilling as everything before it, but to a 14 year old kid that was just a shotgun blast of ~ p h i l o s o p h y ~ that frankly some friends of mine never recovered from

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

Xenogears is the prototypical JRPG in my mind, I only watched it once at a friend's house (same friend who had the VHS Evangelion subbed versions, obv) but it seemed completely inscrutable and twee, with very impressive looking giant robots.

change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link

hahaha it is definitely inscrutable but i for sure do not remember it as twee!!

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

only two other people voted for xenogears?!?!?!!?!?!!

did tomboto vote in this poll btw?

@oneposter(✔️) (Karl Malone), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

no tomboto :(

Kompakt Total Landscaping (Will M.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:23 (three years ago) link


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