What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

lol solid

AOC may be the only politician whose tweets give me actual lols

Aimless, grand juries are a load of anti-democratic bullshit most often utilized to intimidate and incriminate people. I should know, because I've had several friends sent to jail for refusing to testify on them. Fuck a grand jury, and screw your fealty to a system of laws that is only enforced against a few. Your middle-of-the-road rationalist superiority complex is one of the most pathetic things on this board, because it betrays a lack of any imagination or actual desire for change.

*extreme commie voice* i feel like a lot of side effects of the way we’ve organized society cause, reinforce, and perpetuate “””””””crimes”””””””

albeit this is something i’ve mostly gleaned from watching a lot of law & order

also most of the ppl doing the worst crimes against humanity have a ton of money and take forever to catch because of it, another thing that makes me think that policing within capitalism is highly ineffective

cops are bad but shows and movies about cops are good

to the extent that anyone is trying to catch those particular criminals and not, like, hire them xp

who doesn't love a good creature feature

i would say there are degrees, cf. blue bloods which is basically like snorting uncut copaganda

all this stuff about the gop becoming a "working class party" makes no sense unless they start proposing some pro-worker policies.

the larry cohen movies that involve cops are like... cops are sometimes the main characters, but you can tell he thought cops were monsters anyway. that perspective really works for me

I recently watched an old episode of SVU (the first one as Amanda Plummer as the schizophrenic who was sexually assaulted) and I was taken aback by how much of a dick Liv was for most of the episode

all this stuff about the gop becoming a "working class party" makes no sense unless they start proposing some pro-worker policies

I think the idea there is that "working class" will be reduced to empty signifiers because neither party will bother to craft actual policy to significantly help workers

and the GOP could hypothetically swoop in and monopolize on said signifiers as the Dems become The Went to College Party

not saying I think that's going to happen but that's the theory

^^^

“Everything’s going to suck, and both parties are now openly admitted they’re not interested in changing anything. Might as well have “fun”, and the GOP isn’t going to make me feel bad about this “fun” the way the Democrats do”

kind of a Meatballs/ Caddyshack slobs v snobs mentality that definitely has a lot of sway w the American psyche

what city is this? are we talking about Emerald City

America does not have a party of the working class. We have a party of the wealthy that keeps mostly white working class people voting for them using racism and cultural conservatism, and we have a party of the wealthy that keeps working class POC voting for them using fear of racism. Democrats are, of course, still better on actual working class issues than Republicans, but one is a brisk run and the other is a slow trot toward the same erosion of working class benefits and rights.

both sides bash unions. right wing bashes teachers union. left wing bashes police union.

xpost to will - another reason i love AOC, her positivity. that GND video she made that was like an upbeat kids' cartoon from the future, about how back in the 2020s we totally rallied as a country and accomplished this amazing thing and put all these people to work and saved the planet! gloom and doom is the stick, but the opportunity to raise your standard of living (AND heroically save us from complete disaster) is the carrot.

both sides bash unions. right wing bashes teachers union. left wing bashes police union.

*all while

both sides bash unions. right wing bashes teachers union. left wing bashes police union.

― Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, November 12, 2020 2:35 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

This is so disingenuous as to be demonstrably false. Teachers' unions fight for the salaries and working conditions of their members; police unions fight for the right to be unaccountable in the commission of human rights abuses.

Yeah I don't get behind that "both sides." However it's more like GOP bashes teachers' unions, Democrats know they still need teachers' unions but quietly erode them through things like charter schools.

exactly

and yes in orbit v v much otm re police unions

In my direct personal experience the main teachers' union in NYC fights AGAINST charter schools but loses to bought politicians! Idk about other cities though I guess.

I mean Robert Cornegy Jr is set to run for NYC mayor next year and he is, and always has been, a charter-backed candidate!! I worked on a city council primary race in the district right next to his, when he first ran in 2013, and a bunch of charter school teachers & staff members came DURING WORK HOURS and GOT PAID by their employers to canvas for him! There was a lot of winking at us involved iirc.

i will always bash police "unions"

Sorry, Cornegy is running for Brooklyn Borough Pres, not for NYC Mayor. Just a step on the way though.

i will always bash police "unions"

what in the living fuck at that moronic Thus Sang Freud post, everybody has jumped on it already but that's gotta be the stupidest fucking thing I've read itt so far which is really saying something

police unions are not "unions" and should be mercilessly destroyed

In my direct personal experience the main teachers' union in NYC fights AGAINST charter schools but loses to bought politicians! Idk about other cities though I guess.

― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Thursday, November 12, 2020 9:46 AM (eighteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I might have worded my post awkwardly - this is what I meant. Unions are against charters, democrats are ostensibly pro teachers union but also pro charter, which is actually a low-key anti-union position.

police unions are not "unions" and should be mercilessly destroyed

otm, and even putting that aside, there are more than two unions last time I checked, so this was a particularly feeble attempt at both-sidesing

democrats are ostensibly pro teachers union but also pro charter, which is actually a low-key anti-union position

^if I were trying to describe the Democratic Party ca 2020 to someone unfamiliar w American politics

Yeah I've watched the machine Dem candidates in my district & surrounding ones take the softshoe "charter schools are public schools" route many times. They're all going to end up getting primaried from the left though, which I absolutely welcome and will happily put in hours for those candidates.

Actually speaking of which I'm looking up 2021 City Council races right now and thinking about who to volunteer for!

I'm here for the Teena Marie clips.

Both sides-ism: they all support charter schools :(

Democrats have moved away from the Obama era courting of charter schools over the last few years - remains to be seen how that goes from here.

I just looked up every candidate for the neighboring district to mine and the person who's probably going to win the primary has already clearly stated support for charters. I just signed up to volunteer for a queer progressive candidate nearby.

lol at the both sides upthread.

might as well say

"both the left and right are anti-government! conservatives hate big government and liberals hate fascist, authoritarian governments!"

Democrats have moved away from the Obama era courting of charter schools over the last few years - remains to be seen how that goes from here.

― onlyfans.com/hunterb (milo z), Thursday, November 12, 2020 12:47 PM (forty-two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

*Some* democrats have. Most notably the ones people like Pelosi are trying to distance themselves from.

fuck charter schools

-Ben and Jerry's

xxp - I mean as a general party mood. Biden came out in the primaries for a ban on for-profit charters and against any federal money going to charters at all.

It's not a full rejection of charters, but it's better than the Obama era - if it holds. (big if of course)

"For-profit charters" is a weasel term that means nothing. They're nearly all for profit, it's just that some of them place a non-profit structure in between the govt and the profit takers.

To be honest, I am extremely conflicted about charter schools.

I was educated in the public school system and feel very strongly that investment there can have a huge potential payoff given that's where most of our students are.

However, I was also educated in a school district that was over 90% white in a state that pumped a gigantic amount of tax revenue into public education; the fact that I had the capability to excel in this environment and the support of most of the teachers I encountered is more luck and happenstance than planned or even normal.

I also don't know how to parse the data around the performance of minorities in charter schools compared to public schools. It seems like there are splits between schools that benefit their students and schools that don't; half the studies and analyses seem to talk past each other and I am not immersed enough in education policy to confidently call bullshit. My friends in education are all over the place on the issue; teachers tend to hate charters while administrators tend to like them, but in MA the level of regulation on them is such that more teachers here I encounter have positive things to say about charters than education people I know elsewhere. There's also a part of me that feels like the Black/Latino student who ARE achieving success via charters are sometimes ignored or treated like race traitors by angry White liberals who would rather see things slowly get worse for all BIPOC rather than see some of them make a choice that improves their own situations; to be clear, the aforementioned lack of experience and not knowing where to start with the competing studies makes me extremely wary of this impulse but I'd be lying if I said the thoughts weren't there, bolstered mostly by looking at American history.

"For-profit charters" is a weasel term that means nothing. They're nearly all for profit, it's just that some of them place a non-profit structure in between the govt and the profit takers.

How does it work?

I can understand all those thoughts, and I have a lot of thoughts about them myself, and it's definitely an interesting and complex subject. But aside from those thoughts, there's no question that their growth erodes teachers' unions.