wow i've never heard ready for the house without reverb before, thanks for the link sleeve
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link
i'm game for the live albums too, i just didn't think anyone would care. maybe we can adjust schedule.
― maelin, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:19 (three years ago) link
xxp heavy noise reduction and added reverb, yes. also some very slight changes and edits that Seth Tisue goes into great detail on iirc
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link
damn, the CD remaster is ear splitting compared to that original LP mix... shame the rest are unobtanium.
― maelin, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:21 (three years ago) link
I figure this thread will be sparsely populated enough for me to give Dropbox MP3 links of any original LPs that aren't on Youtube
just let me know if that's wanted - I have them all ripped
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:22 (three years ago) link
bless up, sleeve
― maelin, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link
siiiick
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link
or as it sounds on the LP, "sick"
hi sleeve, it's wanted
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:24 (three years ago) link
at what number did corwood stop issuing releases on LP...?
― maelin, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:26 (three years ago) link
0760, it started at 0739 and there were 22
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:32 (three years ago) link
lmk if this works, zip file with MP3
https://www.dropbox.com/s/4uopfhhwvebomjz/JNDK%20RFTH.zip?dl=0
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link
it worked!!!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:55 (three years ago) link
"european jewel" always a shocker bc it contains chord changes
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 21:59 (three years ago) link
well ok it's mostly one chord but jandek does some traveling up and down the neck and plays a solo
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:00 (three years ago) link
BUGS IN MY BRAIN
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:10 (three years ago) link
so in general I subscribe to the theory that these first 6 LPs represent "fully mature" Jandek, probably recorded in the 76-78 era if I had to guess. and I believe the louder, more raucous multi-person stuff on the later LPs was recorded earlier in the 70's. Then of course by the time we get to Twelfth Apostle he is back to releasing things seemingly more or less contemporaneously with the recording date.
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:13 (three years ago) link
who the fuck knows when those spoken word discs were recorded, although I'm sure the noisegated dictaphone gives some clue as to its vintage
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:14 (three years ago) link
wow this vinyl rip is way less crackly than the youtube, thanks again sleeve, my life is enriched
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:22 (three years ago) link
lol now that I think about it, it was the single most expensive record I ever bought, yes it's in good shape!
once I realized how different the sound was I was helpless to resist, that stuff is like catnip to me
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:25 (three years ago) link
getting this on LP back in 2018 marked the return of my Jandek obsession in full force, and I was pretty much always a fan since college and even saw him in 2006 (Portland Thursday). But after I got this I ruthlessly tracked down the rest of the 22 original LPs over the next couple years.
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:27 (three years ago) link
thanks to ex-ILXor Stormy Davis for selling me a few of them!
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:28 (three years ago) link
other thoughts on this record...
I would like to see the Cease & Desist order from The Units (the band), how did they even learn about this LP existing?
soooo many of these early ones were sent to radio stations, a very canny move in retrospect
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:49 (three years ago) link
(college stations, specifically)
that is def where I first saw/heard one of the LPs in like 1987, after reading about them in either Option or Sound Choice
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 22:50 (three years ago) link
very interesting take on temporality of the releases... though i guess the cover art isn't chronological, either. i think i'll probably end up remarking on the photos and words more than the music.
― maelin, Wednesday, 11 November 2020 23:05 (three years ago) link
I'm going to partner this with my once a week Heidegger, Gadamer and Hermeneutics research paper day. The permission these writers give to live in the most bizarre of world I think will partner nicely.
As a guitar tutor, Jandek truly feels likes the destruction of my industry and I am all here for it. I feel like I have heard these tunings and songs in the creation of some 6yo students in their first few lessons. Maybe I should start getting lessons from them.
Genuinely lovely lyrics on this album. "I poured a glass out in the rain".Sounds like he is going to laugh in some of his lines though, which breaks the spell he's casting.
― hrep (H.P), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 23:07 (three years ago) link
there's a LOT of incidental laughter in his catalog now that you mention it! good post, thanks! I love his lyrics as well.
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 23:17 (three years ago) link
True, very keen to run through these. Only listened to one Jandek album before this years and years ago so not familiar with what carries throughout the albums. Speaking of guitar, I am loving the complete irreverance he seems to have for it. Seems like a lot of your "let's get bizaro with the guitar" gang have these underlying heroistic ideas of completely redefining what guitar music might be. That vision seems to be communicated from the diversity with which "bizaro guitar" people interact with their personal bizaro guitar aesthetic. Jandek feels like he just doesn't care. Same tuning for every song. Same "low,high,low,differenthigh" note structure or "strum the same way the whole time". It feels like he really just wanted to get some poetry out there but realised that radio airwaves are a better way to get poetry out there than through trying to self-publish a book. I just get no hint of "I am trying to do something with this guitar playing", and guitar playing is the only other element than his voice in this album which really does feel like its trying to do something. Definitely respect the lack of revolutionary ambition in this completely novel album.
― hrep (H.P), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 23:31 (three years ago) link
record really nicely married the bleak grey rainy weather outside. i listened to it three times in a row and now regular music feels like it's too much
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 11 November 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link
bless you for this rip, sleeve
H.P, any chance we can get you to post apposite (or randomly selected) heidegger / gadamer quotes as companion texts?
― budo jeru, Thursday, 12 November 2020 02:49 (three years ago) link
Inside myself there is no questionJust the jangle of our brainThree times four is twenty-sevenOnly fragments still remain
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 November 2020 03:19 (three years ago) link
it is actually an amazing experience listening to these songs while reading the lyrics lol
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 November 2020 03:27 (three years ago) link
It feels like he really just wanted to get some poetry out there but realised that radio airwaves are a better way to get poetry out there than through trying to self-publish a book
otm
otm x 2
― the late great, Thursday, 12 November 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link
yes I think "really just wanted to get some poetry out there" is a super good call
I like this Eddie Flowers thing:
Eddie Flowers. Quoted at The History of Rock Music, Vol. 4 (website). “The stark, painfully exposed, untuned-acoustic blues/folk that once made for such a richly uncomfortable listening experience now sounds focused and brilliant. it’s not that the music is any less dark, or the technique any more refined than it was 22 years ago; it’s just that the world has moved closer to Jandek’s reality. The anxious beauty of isolation and doubt.”
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 12 November 2020 04:18 (three years ago) link
That "three times four is twenty-seven" line is the first time I could hear one of Jandek's interior giggle's become audible. Definitely reading the lyric sheet for the next album, or if might listen to ready for the house again with it.
quote for the week: "if we tell what it is for, we are not simply designating something; but that which is designated is understood as that as which we are to take the thing in question". - B&T 149
And yeah, thank you Sleeve for the link.
― hrep (H.P), Thursday, 12 November 2020 06:16 (three years ago) link
Also maybe a pointless suggestion given that live releases are 30 albums and thus 30 weeks away, but assuming we get that far it has to be a committed bunch? Might be worth doing two a week from then-on and including the live albums?? Something that can be addressed when we get there, if this thread keeps enough steam to get to that point.
― hrep (H.P), Thursday, 12 November 2020 06:26 (three years ago) link
excellent! will be following & listening this. I agree with HP that 2 per week seems do-able.
― Ludo, Thursday, 12 November 2020 07:33 (three years ago) link
Thanks Sleeve!
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 November 2020 08:25 (three years ago) link
thread reminded me that 1) i saw jandek live in 2012!!!!! 2) it was great
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgqwYfePMd4
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 12 November 2020 14:08 (three years ago) link
wow jandek looks great
― it bangs for thee (Simon H.), Thursday, 12 November 2020 14:12 (three years ago) link
I should do this, I have everything up through I Threw You Away and spottily after that, I'll wait for the sun to go down and jam Ready for The House tonight
― chr1sb3singer, Thursday, 12 November 2020 15:00 (three years ago) link
I listened to ready for the house 2 weeks ago so I'm up to date on the thread.
European jewel is Jandek's pop hit
― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link
https://yorkspace.library.yorku.ca/xmlui/handle/10315/28169
― Politically homely (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link
that's a dissertation called
THEMATIC INTERCONNECTIVITYAS AN INNATE MUSICAL QUALITY:AN INVESTIGATION OF JANDEK’S “EUROPEAN JEWEL” GUITAR RIFFS
I can’t do both this and the Xenakis listening thread, I’m afraid, but cool initiative nonetheless.
― pomenitul, Thursday, 12 November 2020 19:06 (three years ago) link
i'm in. love those first two LPs
― real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:32 (three years ago) link
I too am in. I know the first four or five pretty well, after that just some here and there. I lovehow RFTH’s first couple of songs almost have no discernable beginning or end. Like a 20 min song chopped up into random song-lengths, he just drones on. Needless to say I love it, it stops me in my tracks and demands attention. And i dont even know the lyrics that well!
― A Scampo Darkly (Le Bateau Ivre), Thursday, 12 November 2020 20:38 (three years ago) link
i guess youlike itthat way cuz huhyou're a FLOP
― real muthaphuckkin jeez (crüt), Thursday, 12 November 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link
so what do we think the classic Jandek "mic drop" sound is? you can hear one of the first (of many) occurrences here at the end of "What Can I Say, What Can I Sing" - it sounds like him kicking something, or a microphone dropping to the floor or being hit, or some kind of primitive reverb pedal, or hitting "stop" on an old clunky tape recorder... or??
I'm too lazy to sort through the Jandek Google group for this stuff and am mostly just sticking with Seth's website and the excellent Perfect Sound Forever writeup for background on these (https://www.furious.com/perfect/jandek/jandekreviews.html)
― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Friday, 13 November 2020 01:14 (three years ago) link
fixed
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 23:35 (two months ago) link
man this thing starts off strong, as always an invaluable resource to this early period is here: https://tisue.net/jandek/lyrics.html
We can’t deny there are spirits in this houseYou shut the door, the wind closes two moreI laugh a dark laugh, you smile and think about itYou’ll come again I’m sure you can’t refuse
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 23:36 (two months ago) link
^ my fave jandek song
― Clay, Wednesday, 14 February 2024 23:41 (two months ago) link
this is one of my favorites, actually. "down in a mirror" is a classic, "the times" and "love, love" verge on gorgeous, if only in jandek's particularly shadowed way. feels a lot lighter than either ready for the house or six & six and way more focused than later on (which i never commented on, and kind of plays like a b-side collection to the first few records, not necessarily in a bad way)
― ivy., Wednesday, 14 February 2024 23:42 (two months ago) link
also the complete version of "european jewel" reveals that it is a velvet underground song that someone left on the stove for too long
― ivy., Wednesday, 14 February 2024 23:53 (two months ago) link
I think "Poor Boy" is the most explicit blues nod yet, I believe I commented upthread on the cover connection between Six And Six and a Robert Johnson photo
and then followed up directly with harmonica on the next track, this has always been ghost blues but it took me a while to catch on
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 23:58 (two months ago) link
You’re livin’ free and livin’ highYou’re like some angel in the skyYou’re like some angel in the skyYou’re like some angel in the sky high high high
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 15 February 2024 00:51 (two months ago) link
I was thinking bout this thread last week too! Think we only did two albums? Let's get back into it!
― H.P, Thursday, 15 February 2024 00:58 (two months ago) link
this is the 4th but the older dropbox links expired, will happily re-up for anyone, just holla at me here
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 15 February 2024 01:00 (two months ago) link
Ready For The House, Six And Six and Chair Beside A Window are my favourite Jandek albums that I've heard (have heard about 15) so I think I am a pretty basic Jandek fan
after those I quite like the mid-late 80s stuff like Telegraph Melts, Follow Your Footsteps, Blue Corpse etc
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 15 February 2024 11:05 (two months ago) link
I've got about 40 albums and saw him 3 times but still feel pretty basic at times.
I think in addition to those the psych/melodic phase that follows the Nancy breakup albums are pretty good (You Walk Alone through to Lost Cause, maybe) and the Noughties phase definitely has its moments (I Threw You Away, The Humility Of Pain, The Gone Wait).
The very latest (Vision of Jewels, Dec 23) has an astonishingly high RYM score so I should probably check it out.
― Hello I'm shitty gatsworth (aldo), Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:06 (two months ago) link
wasn’t my intention but i’ve been listening to a lot of chamber jandek (where do you go from here, maze of the phantom, atlanta saturday/outcast of civilization) and it is some of the most beautiful music ever made
― ivy., Thursday, 15 February 2024 14:13 (two months ago) link
chamber jandek
!!!
― O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:17 (two months ago) link
i so want to believe this is chamber groups playing in jandek tuning, but i'm sure that's not what it is
― O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:18 (two months ago) link
no it's better, truly gorgeous orchestral pieces
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:24 (two months ago) link
I don't see how anything could be better, but ok, it's on my to-do list for the day
― O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 15 February 2024 18:37 (two months ago) link
chamber groups playing in jandek tuning
the mountain step comes close to this
― ivy., Thursday, 15 February 2024 22:05 (two months ago) link
I have actually only heard "where do you go from here" (the gorgeous one) and the NINE DISC Songs Of Morgan which is nine hour-long nocturnes for solo piano. My 84-year-old mom loved the box set when I put it on during a visit, she bought her own copy directly from Corwood!
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 15 February 2024 22:08 (two months ago) link
the recent corwood release i'm eager to hear that's in my cart right now is the wizards hour, which is a set he did for WNYU in 2012 and i'm assuming it features the same ensemble i saw at vaudeville park (posted clips from that sadly still-unreleased show upthread)
i'm also hella ordering the rudyard's dvd
― ivy., Thursday, 15 February 2024 23:05 (two months ago) link
a couple of folks in that vaudeville park ensemble were pals of mine, Valerie led an ensemble called Dream Zoo at that time who were totally crushworthy surrealist chamber theater thing, pure innovation. the only thing remotely similar is Monster Walks the Winter Lake
― O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 15 February 2024 23:24 (two months ago) link
anyway i listened to the excerpts i could find of where do you go from here & maze of the phantom YT
the former is < 5 mins just drums, piano and guitar, guessing this doesn't give me a sense of the thing
maze is a more substantial excerpt and it is very, very nice, something like temperate zone exotica
― O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 15 February 2024 23:28 (two months ago) link
A review of The Wizards Hour here...
― dell (del), Thursday, 15 February 2024 23:32 (two months ago) link
well that one instantly put a big, stoopid grin on my face
― O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 15 February 2024 23:43 (two months ago) link
oh shit whoops wizards hour was 2009... why did i misread it as 2012 lol
― ivy., Thursday, 15 February 2024 23:57 (two months ago) link
well i guess i have to continue hoping he'll one day release that vaudeville park show so i can relive that memory
― ivy., Friday, 16 February 2024 00:00 (two months ago) link
Great story about your mom sleeve. Songs of Morgan is going to be my study playlist for today
― H.P, Friday, 16 February 2024 00:10 (two months ago) link
I keep repeating, it takes a beatingTo grow up naked in the afternoon
― H.P, Friday, 16 February 2024 00:15 (two months ago) link
Ivy, they put that group together just to do the Vaudeville Park shows, but it was filmed for an episode of ESP TVhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja_inwDsmNo
― O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Friday, 16 February 2024 03:35 (two months ago) link
And yeah awesome story sleeve :)
― O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Friday, 16 February 2024 03:36 (two months ago) link
Maze Of The Phantom was an outlier at first, even for Jandek, but I've grown to like it a lot. I'll always stan for the electric bass albums - The Gone Wait, Shadow Of Leaves.Super-stoked to have tickets see the Rep & co. next week!
― Elvis Telecom, Friday, 16 February 2024 06:08 (two months ago) link
omg thank you for that video deflatormouse
― ivy., Friday, 16 February 2024 18:01 (two months ago) link
You're welcome. I've collaborated with ESP TV on a couple of events, they are super nice & meticulous archivists of analog media. i'm sure they have a recording of the whole show(s), less sure it's been digitized. i could ask.
― O Fundo Escuro de (Deflatormouse), Friday, 16 February 2024 18:37 (two months ago) link
Living In A Moon So Blue (1982)
I love the cover of this one, returning to the debut's baffling real-world images after three self-portraits. The album is a collection of 16 miniatures that I recall nothing about off the top of my head. Kinda goes along with the cover I guess. Gonna give it a spin when this Tom Petty album is over.
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/rkyp209zbzmqomx2wmwb7/h?rlkey=jw4p0elunppgb7n1locfwtosb&dl=0
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 29 February 2024 03:49 (two months ago) link
Bludgeon (1/8)Please do not push any buttonsOn this machineOn what machineWet paintKeep Out
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Thursday, 29 February 2024 04:01 (two months ago) link
no comments on this one? it does seem like a bit of a retread of earlier ideas...
― I painted my teeth (sleeve), Saturday, 2 March 2024 01:34 (two months ago) link