CS + Kreme - Snoopy

Shadow Weaver was my first LPD, found a tape copy in a free box. Eventually my car tape deck tried to eat it and it became unspooled, but unbeknownst to me, my then-new boyfriend took it, found a new cassette housing, and re-spooled the tape by hand while decorating the outside of the housing with creepy graphics. He gave it back to me for my birthday, and is now my husband.

Wow, Shadow Weaver sounds great! Gonna have to buy the expanded reissue with the 20-min bonus track.
Had read about LPD for years as a big part of the whole England's Hidden Reverse axis, but 20-odd years ago it was of course much harder to investigate, so cheers...

I have quite a few LPD albums and always like everything I hear but their catalogue is so vast so I have no doubt missed lots of great ones. the table is the table, that is a great story about your husband!

I have quite a few LPD records, but totally get the vastness issue. The thread on ILM was actually quite helpful for getting into them!

Pan American more specifically imo

― rob, Tuesday, November 10, 2020 6:19 PM (yesterday)

I put on Labradford's "Mi Media Naranja" after posting this, and I have to retract this opinion. But the first self-titled Pan American album is kind of slept on and you should check it out anyway (PA is a solo project for Mark Nelson)

i love this album and i love that it's called snoopy

So fellow CS + Kreme fans, is there a track that we can all get behind for the end of year poll? I love Snoopy and will be voting for it is my A of the Y but I don't think there's any standout tracks, ie they're all at a similar level of excellence. Wouldn't want to go for Pussywhistle Tea though because fuck me that's a terrible song title.

Could go for either of the tracks from the new single too

Very tough to pick a standout track as it is a much more an overall immersive listen. "Snoopy" will be in my top 2 of 2020 but for a track I think (if i were voting) I'd maybe go with "Bugged" off the new single.

i'll def be voting for it in the albums poll

Bugged is immense. Love the beat but unable to explain exactly how it is “wrong”

Mount Warning would be the track for me; but it'll be Snoopy I vote for.

this album is something else, it does not go down easy for me. it’s so haunted... supremely chill surface but it’s as if it’s hiding something really nasty and awful underneath... idk.. “thoughts”

“Where did blueberries go” is definitely the best album-opening line of 2020

some of it kind reminds me of some of Piano Magic’s eerie early stuff

vibes wise

anyone get that two cassette mix they just put out, reel torque 20? i've got it but i won't get a chance to listen until christmas (it's wrapped rn up as a lil present to myself), no tracklist, what a mystery

don't know how i missed this all year, incredible stuff

track in the first post is still my favorite but yeah this is good stuff

anyone get that two cassette mix they just put out, reel torque 20? i've got it but i won't get a chance to listen until christmas (it's wrapped rn up as a lil present to myself), no tracklist, what a mystery

Jealous - I didn't know about that. Hopefully someone will rip it to Youtube at some point.

this album is something else, it does not go down easy for me. it’s so haunted... supremely chill surface but it’s as if it’s hiding something really nasty and awful underneath... idk.. “thoughts”

― brimstead, Thursday, December 10, 2020 12:19 AM (twenty hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah. i'm just going off "roast ghost (ultra lavender mix)" but it's like plants growing out of chopped up bodies or something.

(xp) I assumed from the way that it's described on Boomkat that the Reel Torque tape is a DJ mix with maybe some original material sprinkled in, not worlds away from many of the cassette-only releases on The Trilogy Tapes

So fellow CS + Kreme fans, is there a track that we can all get behind for the end of year poll? I love Snoopy and will be voting for it is my A of the Y but I don't think there's any standout tracks, ie they're all at a similar level of excellence. Wouldn't want to go for Pussywhistle Tea though because fuck me that's a terrible song title.

― paolo, Wednesday, 9 December 2020 13:06 (two days ago)

It's tough to pick a single track, it does all sort of flow together. Blue Flu & Mount Warning are maybe the two that jump out at me most often, but then Saint feels like the one that's the perfect lockdown time capsule. Will definitely be voting for the album high up on my album ballot anyway.

Appreciate the suggestions for similar artists/albums upthread. Got Shadow Weaver by Legendary Pink Dots on just now & it's sounding pretty great.

:-)

dang this is good

The recent single is so great to just ~space~ to

Damn, how did I miss this? ANY mention of Labradford and/or The For Carnation should immediately send up a bat signal of some sort.

Now's not the time for glibness but the widescreen creeping dread of the recent EP is perfect for watching the world burn.

hey what's up, i listened to the tape mix - pretty good

they've got asa chang and junray - hana on there, patty waters, public enemy, a song from the ghost dog soundtrack, got some throat singing on there, some gamelan

whole thing is a trip tbh

Sounds like my freeform radio sets during my uni days!

this album should appeal to all you snoopy-heads that wanna get churned up by more coil-esque looping psychedlic ambient

Geins't Naït & Scanner ‎– GN / Scanner

https://open.spotify.com/album/5kgC1RMEMkt9lsrTU6k2XA?si=Ymr6pPPOTMuNK-KP6zA1WA

That's on Offen isn't it? Love that label.

yep! anything vladimir ivkovic touches is worthwhile imo

Saw that they have a new mix here:
https://crackmagazine.net/article/mixprofile/cs-kreme/

Blue Six – Sweeter Love (Jay's Full Vocal)

not gonna lie to you, been waiting on the naked music revival...

discovered this only now via the albums poll. it is incredible that there is still so much fascinating, uncharted territory on the map of music. there is something haunting about this stuff. i get the piano music comparison but here there are more noises and not so many voices. "mount warning" is a phantastic trip into some dark places, maybe a descent into a cave?

piano magic comparison, obv.

I've also discovered them through the albums poll and am really digging them. What they do goes beyond mood; these are full-bodied tracks with enigmatic personalities.

If I can thank ILM for just three things, those things would be Junior Boys, Sault, and this

I was hoping that they would place high enough in the albums poll to get more people to check them out, so it's great to see that's happened.

:-)

heard this today for the first time, i know it's not quite there (nowhere near murky enough) but i think this is the closest thing i've heard to 'snoopy'?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-pGZsf3Vck

Roy Montgomery with Kirk Lake - London Is Swinging By His Neck (1998)

Saw that they have a new mix here:
https://crackmagazine.net/article/mixprofile/cs-kreme/

those wacky noises at the start meant I couldn't listen to more than two minutes of this, just too distracting :(

that track ends about five minutes in, if you just want to skip it

oh man i used to have that rocket girl box set - some real clunkers on there, but that track and about half of the rest is decent

just had a look and the box set has the track with the offside lyrics that go: "the gallagher brothers masquerading around town as genuises/like beatlemania with tiny penises"

"Where did tiny penises go"

wow the vinyl copy i got (repress i think) sounds like absolute dogshit. a muddy mess. A/B'ing with a 320kbps mp3 is like night and day. trilogy tapes is kind of a stupid label but i've never gotten something that sounds this bad from them before. major drag.

especially with like 12 minutes of music per side

my copy sounds great.

trilogy tapes is kind of a stupid label

what is stupid about them?

I forgot I ordered this lol. Unsettling mysteries incoming.....

Deej OTM. I decided not to listen to this album any more because it just vaguely upset me.

there is a real queasiness to it. i’m drawn back to it though

"this album makes me feel bad and i don't want to listen to it ... maybe this is good" never change yall

i kid i kid, but still, it's not like snoopy made me feel good or anything. it's not about feeling good, it's about the quality of feeling bad, and on that measure snoopy succeeds via a sort of dream logic, this is a bit surface level to my ears, but will give it some more spins.

if you like 'orange' i feel like rabit's recent oeuvre is hitting the same zones

I think of this band as being mainly good bc of artfully juxtaposed surfaces so when ppl say 'this one feels surface level' im like well yea

playing in London on March 31st (sadly I'll miss them yet again): https://ra.co/events/1661923

i like orange more than snoopy!

danker, scrapier. you can’t imagine anyone calling it “illbient”.

i obviously apologise unreservedly for using that word.

orange is my new workout music btw not joking

despite knowing the artist I have always misread this thread title as “CS plus Kreme minus Snoopy”, thank you for listening

illbient is good, tho?

snoopy is cool because it is pretty traditional in terms of instrumentation, but super otherworldly in its effects. more badalamenti than anything else, really. or like certain moments in harold budd's catalog - like you can sing "where did blueberries go" over this track pretty easily!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo0ng_0NYnA

relistening to orange, it's unfair to compare it to snoopy. it has its own thing going on. and that thing is really bad, to me. i will say it's rare for me to actively loathe music, usually it's just boring, so they have accomplished something real in that sense.

I'm actually surprised by how polarizing this record seems to be. It isn't exactly leagues apart from the previous album

i think it is at least a league apart. to me it does feel like a very different thing from Snoopy.

as someone who has had trouble totally processing orange I definitely don't think its 'boring'

i feel like walking around Glasgow in early March would probably be a good way to "get" it

i'll try that tomorrow Tracer.

d-40, me neither; wasn't as clear as i could have been.

anyways. still one of the best acts out rn i think. and 'vampire' is truly excellent