Lindstrom & Prins Thomas are the shit

i'm using "trip hop" and "big beat" interchangeably here

i'm using "trip hop" and "big beat" interchangeably here

And you say *I* know naught about dance genres? Come on, even *I* know those are very different beasts! :-P

i never said that

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The Magnificent would've sounded pretty amazing three or four years ago, when I was just catching L&PT fever (and starting this thread) but while I really appreciate the nice chord changes and such I feel he's come SUCH a long way since then (assuming that the tracks are older, of course, cos they *sound* older to me) that i'm not particularly *excited* about it. B-side wins again here though.

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i guess trip-hop for me has always been defined by its early, moody benchmarks -- massive attack/tricky/portishead most obviously. but for sure morcheeba counts, and mono too. (not that mono, the other mono.) so yeah it wasn't all philip k. dick soundtrack music, even though my favorite stuff sort of was. and that's the side of it dubstep picked up from. whereas lindstrom & al. seem groovier to me in all respects -- which is not a bad thing, i like the unabashed uplift of a lot of it.

i really want to hear lindstrom do something raw and crazy again like 'a blast of loser'. god that was good!

so would it be correct to say that both trip hop and beardo are in some respects baggy or hippy? (stoner music, basically. beardo = the hippy acid house?) my fave lindstrom is "the contemporary fix", but there are so many good ones it is hard to choose.

i like lots of shit that is probably 'trip hop' but when i think trip hop i pretty much exclusively think of the stuff i dont like & it all seems so limited by the breakbeats. boring rap instrumentals

I love the sprawl and kind of lack of focus of II"Acid Tracks". It really gives me the sense of two amazing musicians who just turned on the tape recorder and recorded whatever came out - get the same sort of vibe as from the Harmonia live album that was recently (re)released. Even if this isn't how they did it, the fact that it gives that kind of vibe is quite an accomplishment, to make something so complex and layered sound so... easily tossed off.

revisiting old trip hop records, the breakbeats/boring rap instrumentals aspect totally ruins them, but so much could fit on the quiet village lp if they just had different beats. i'm thinking mo'wax and stuff, though, if we're talking morcheeba etc.. i can't see those sorts of folks tearing it up w/L&P, there's more of an adult contemporary focus going on there.

winston needs to stop posting

i kind of see the parallel in terms of removing all the "untasteful" attributes or whatever, but i think beardo has a wider range that encompasses more wacky goofy shit.

i'm calling this downtempo instead of trip-hop or nu-balearic but it is basically in my top 3 of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_6SZw_GUy4

^^ excellent!! you mean downtempo house for sure though right? (gotta say it's true that the genre hair-splitting gets annoying, but it's how you build a history. heh and a hagiography.)

my favorite "trip hop" track in recent memory is "over the breaks" by j dilla.

i've always thought that nu-balearic has far more in common with trip hop or downtempo or chillout or whatever than it does with any old-school balearic stuff

^ esp true of quiet village remixes like this, anything on claremont 56, that fred deakin comp, etc.

Chillout and its forebears especially. The Mudd and the Mudd/Smith albums remind me a lot of Ultramarine. Obviously Mungolian Jet Sets are obsessed with the first The Orb album.

i've always thought that nu-balearic has far more in common with trip hop or downtempo or chillout or whatever than it does with any old-school balearic stuff

i've always been trying to give fila brazillia credit for nu-balearic on ILX

I'm also a bit underwhelmed by II - and yet I LOVED LOVED LOVED Where You Go I Go Too, which I probably listened to more often than any other album in the second half of 2008. I miss the pristine precision, the emotional intensity, the sweep and the scale. Difficult to avoid the word "noodly" - which isn't necessarily a bad quality, but I was expecting rather more in the way of transcendence.

― mike t-diva, Monday, July 6, 2009 11:42 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

do u have tirdagsjam? if not, hunt it down immediately. it will scratch that itch

yeah i like tirdagsjam best. II is too noodly for me. iTunes is charging tirdagsjam at album price though wtf.

i've always been trying to give fila brazillia credit for nu-balearic on ILX

― cutty

^^ QFT

ah, my brother

with you on this

xpost - Yes, I got hold of Tirdgasjam before buying II, and so I thought II was going to be more of the same. Bah.

LOL-ing at my own typo there.

yeah i like tirdagsjam best. II is too noodly for me. iTunes is charging tirdagsjam at album price though wtf.

― willem, Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:03 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i complained about this upthread :)

lol tirdgasjam

if anyone has the means, listen to "slacker" by fila brazillia on "maim that tune" and report back

is good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tsbtFcP97k

wow youtube never fails to amaze

srsly that could be on "where i go you go too" and none of y'all would know the difference between 2008 and 1995

woops "where u go i go 2"

even more beardy IMHO

that's the only 90s Fila I don't have. Should I?

yes

woah that fila tune is really really great.

Wait, I totally had the wrong track on the Smalltown Supersound compilation. I <3 Meanderthals, they've lovely.

Except they have to go and stick that steel drum plug-in in the middle of the song, but I've come to just put up with the steel drums and the bongos on this kinda music.

now you're hating on steel drums and bongos? imo those are two of the most lovable instruments like evar

sigh

btw feelin that fila brazillia as well

this has less swooshy sounds than where you go I go too and in my books that is a +

Swooshy sounds are, to me, the most lovable sounds ever.

Swooshy sounds >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sodding bongos

Kate I'm guessing i won't be seeing you on the UK funky thread any time soon then.

oh, Tim, where you go, I go, too. ;-)

Just about to listen to his Vascomaster cover on FP18 while I do a spot of light dusting around the house. Will I be delighted or disgusted?

his = PT's

i dunno, but i just sb'd you for saying "vascomaster" again

what's the guitar sample at the beginning of Flue Pa Veggen? Trying to remember is driving me nuts.

surprised no ones talking about the magnificent which has been top of my rotation for the last few weeks