Cleaning Records

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mine doesn't have an anti-skate, just the weight

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 20:14 (eleven months ago) link

Try wood glue on the last track.

ringworm, Tuesday, 10 November 2020 22:43 (eleven months ago) link

three months pass...

this question is really cleaning-adjacent, but i wanted to pick y'all's wiser vinyl-collecting brains and couldn't find a better thread:

i have a pretty decent bunch of records where the spines of the sleeves (and the spines alone) got pretty fucked up by a house fire and the subsequent cleaning process. the LPs themselves are great and i can't really imagine shelling out to replace them all, but the beat-up, grayed, illegible spines really kinda cast a drab pallor over my collection. i long to see it all bright and poppy again as once it was. so.... are there any sellers out there who like, specialize in just sleeves? or an easy way to search sellers for "record grade F, sleeve grade G/VG"? i've had some luck just trawling cheap sections of stores with checklist in hand, but with quarantine that's less appealing. i'm not deluded that i'll be able to replace all of these without shelling out for new LPs but the more that i can accomplish the happier i will be. thanks!!

honk honk honkin' on Bobo's door (Doctor Casino), Monday, 15 February 2021 18:37 (eight months ago) link

lol I've seen a few people on discogs selling just the sleeves but it's pretty rare for any record that isn't worth $30+ already. I've bought blank sleeves and just sketched the album cover myself. writing on the spine is real tricky though.

I did try the wood glue trick on the two records with skips in dice. I tried it to clean a particularly cheap & noisy one I have (a $2 copy of "Live at Leeds") and it didn't really work - left pieces of glue everywhere, much of which I couldn't get out. maybe I just didn't spread it evenly enough.

frogbs, Monday, 15 February 2021 18:46 (eight months ago) link

i've always been fascinated by the glue thing, anyone can picture how satisfying it would be to peel out this perfectly-separating disc of wood glue that carries with it all unwanted particles....... but i can more easily picture the "stuck-on bits" version and have never been seriously drawn to try it. time to just upgrade to a $5-10 copy perhaps.

honk honk honkin' on Bobo's door (Doctor Casino), Monday, 15 February 2021 19:56 (eight months ago) link

XP Obvs the best thing would be to get replacement jackets but that’s gonna be a grind.

I’ve got a few records I was missing jackets for. I’ve taken like a James Last jacket, printed a small replica of the album cover & track listing on sticker paper with spine text, & pasted the two together. Works just fine if you don’t really care about the overall aesthetics. You could probably do something slightly more festive/true to life with 11x17 sticker paper & colour printing.

Guys don’t @ me because I tazed my own balls alright? (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 15 February 2021 19:57 (eight months ago) link

interesting ideas! if we had a printer at home i might actually get onto the sticker paper approach. might just end up getting much more serious at looking at discogs... shipping cost will be brutal tho. sigh.

honk honk honkin' on Bobo's door (Doctor Casino), Monday, 15 February 2021 21:22 (eight months ago) link

I've bought blank sleeves and just sketched the album cover myself.

heh this is a really cool idea. I remember a blog floating around awhile back that was full of people’s handmade alterations to classic album sleeves, some really out there stuff.

rasputin records in Berkeley had a section just for empty sleeves, at least 5 rows worth? my s/o has been looking for a Valley of the Dolls soundtrack sleeve and god knows I have a few things that would be nice to upgrade.

I’ve been thinking of making a basic slipcase out of kraft board for this dan lisvik 4lp set. it needs a slipcase.

brimstead, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 00:36 (eight months ago) link

doctor casino, you could also use stamps and make your records all look like Live at Leeds or something... give to em all a cool test-pressing “official bootleg” look

brimstead, Tuesday, 16 February 2021 00:41 (eight months ago) link

idk, I think at this point i'd rather the spines just look like the spines of the records they are... giving them all a weathered homemade look might be kinda cool but also feels like letting the fire continue to hold sway over my space, yknow? the fronts and backs are all in great shape, also --- being wedged together in my shelves protected them from the smoke. hmm.

honk honk honkin' on Bobo's door (Doctor Casino), Tuesday, 16 February 2021 01:51 (eight months ago) link

finally tried the wood glue trick on a junked copy of Nilsson Schmilsson that I bought for cheap. I'm kind of astounded, this really does work. it was downright unplayable, but now it actually sounds pretty good. not perfect...I'd grade it as "VG" or so (though a lot of discogs sellers I've bought from would slap a "VG+" on this no problem)...but much, much better than it was. if you have any records you were going to throw out because they sounded like garbage I recommend you give it a try. just make sure to spread the glue as evenly as possible, first time I did it I left a ton of residue because I missed some have to use a good amount of glue. but man, what a difference.

if you're curious, the glue I used was Titebond II Premium, which I got at Meijer for a few bucks. I've heard Elmer's works good too.

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:54 (seven months ago) link

like, just to drive home how well this worked, there was a small spot I missed with the glue, and on playback I can hear *exactly* where that spot was

frogbs, Wednesday, 24 February 2021 21:56 (seven months ago) link

damn. man. maybe i SHOULD try this.

honkin' on bobo, honkin' with my feet ten feet off of beale (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 24 February 2021 22:39 (seven months ago) link

I guess it depends what's going on with the record in question. I tried this one with a pretty noisy D-side and it didn't do much - it *did* seem to sound a little better but the surface noise was all still there. Looking at the surface of the LP though it appears there are a lot of scratches which obviously this ain't gonna fix. If anyone knows what you can do about those I'm all ears. Gonna try it on a few more dirty old records and I'll see what I get.

frogbs, Thursday, 25 February 2021 21:09 (seven months ago) link

also got some Tergikleen the other day, not to shill but this stuff really does work. I was pretty skeptical it would do much given how little you have to use - you mix like 15 drops into a gallon of water - but I used it in the spin clean and some pretty junked up records came out sounding great. nearly all the surface noise is gone. there's still some but it's fairly minimal.

frogbs, Friday, 26 February 2021 20:15 (seven months ago) link

just curious, are these records that already look dirty? i got a spin clean recently and haven’t noticed a difference... but I got rid of most of my “junked” vinyl years ago so I don’t really have much to test it with.

brimstead, Friday, 26 February 2021 20:55 (seven months ago) link

I don't examine them too closely but think the noise on records can definitely be something you can't see

the Tergikleen is what I think made the difference. one of the albums I ran through is one I already had spin cleaned at the shop and there was a pretty marked improvement with this

frogbs, Friday, 26 February 2021 21:15 (seven months ago) link

five months pass...

Anyone try an ultrasonic cleaner? They are getting down to somewhat-affordable.

DJI, Friday, 6 August 2021 17:56 (two months ago) link

A friend of mine is an engineer and he rigged up his own. (Many of the ultrasonic record cleaners use a generic ultrasonic cleaner as the base and then tack on $300-500 for the record-specific attachment). He says it works incredibly well, but he still uses a second cleaning with a vacuum-based record cleaner to remove the cleaning solution and now-suspended dirt.

Carlos Santana & Mahavishnu Rob Thomas (PBKR), Friday, 6 August 2021 18:22 (two months ago) link

I wonder if I could just pass my handheld Dyson over them :)

DJI, Friday, 6 August 2021 18:30 (two months ago) link

If you picked up a record from a thrift store and the inner sleeve had obviously been cummed on, but it was probably like 40 years ago, would you keep the sleeve or trash it? The artist is Ashford and Simpson. The record itself is VG+. Thank you.

peace, man, Sunday, 15 August 2021 23:08 (two months ago) link

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