who is Bob Lefsetz?

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then again, Lefsetz seems more of a Wally Tax kind of guy to me:

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kiss some penis reference (breastcrawl), Monday, 9 November 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link

Stop depending on the rule of law.

We’re in an endless loop. The left keeps depending on the system, and the right rigs the system and then the left is positively STUNNED when things don’t work out its way. Were there any consequences for DeJoy slowing down the mail? Of course not, he just stonewalled, and ignored the government and judicial orders. He said removing sorting machines was de rigueur and there was no way to reinsert them and…HE GOT AWAY WITH IT! Yes folks, in plain sight Trump and his cronies put their finger on the scale with absolutely no consequences....

Sure, he may concede, or at least agree to go, even as I write this, but I wouldn’t bet on it. Meanwhile, with the support of his party apparatchiks Trump has succeeded in undermining the legitimacy of the election in the minds of 40% of the electorate, so even if Biden takes office, expect pushback, expect very little to get done.

Meanwhile, sorting the smoldering ashes all the Democrats can do is lament they didn’t move even FURTHER to the center. Yes, the reason people voted for Trump was the protests and “Defund the Police” and if we just shut up and obeyed orders and played the game properly, we’d win. That hasn’t worked for DECADES, if ever!

Meanwhile, AOC goes on record the DNC lives in the last century, focusing on TV and the mail as opposed to Facebook, and she’s excoriated by the same gang who keeps on losing, putting a stake in the heart of the Democratic Party, if not ultimately democracy itself....

Come on, rule of law, what did the police ever do for you? They won’t even come to a car accident anymore, and when you call for help they usually say there’s nothing they can do. But somehow the police keep being lauded, just like the military. Come on, the fighters are pawns who’ve been sent overseas by Bush and Cheney and why don’t we stop lauding those at the bottom and stop the bleeding by holding those at the top accountable?

Wall Street skates after ruining the economy twelve years ago and what’s the solution? GIVE THEM MORE MONEY! The news is littered with fat cats who gamed the system to get money from the government this spring, meanwhile, the hoi polloi, out of work, about to get kicked out of their dwellings, are getting no relief. McConnell says no relief before the election, which is still in play according to the Trumpians.

And, like an autocratic country, Republican elected officials are afraid of getting on the wrong side of Trump. Oh, we read in the left wing press, the same one that trumpeted inaccurate polls, that once Trump was defeated everybody would come back to their senses. HASN’T HAPPENED YET!... And all the DNC will tell us is we must appease the Trumpers… That didn’t work and it will never work. You’ve got to start a fire on your side that draws people to you, you don’t hobble your message to try and be accepted by the other side....

The Black Lives Matters protesters had it right, they were mad as hell and weren’t going to take it anymore. That’s what we need now, spontaneous demonstrations that evidence our power to Trump! Oh, you’re afraid, he controls the military, it’ll just add fuel to the fire. But are you winning? No, you keep depending on the system to make things right, but that hasn’t happened in four years, why should it happen now?

finding nuggets of truth in Lefsetz is a useful self-diagnostic tool - like, if you find yourself agreeing with him, you can choose to either amend where you know you're wrong, or just continue down the path of sounding more and more like Bob Lefsetz

― tremendous crime wave and killing wave (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Wednesday, January 6, 2016 3:44 AM bookmarkflaglink

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 15 November 2020 14:09 (three years ago) link

this is the real lefsetz graf tho:

God, kids could not steal music, they needed to be told it was wrong and sued into submission. Did that work? NO! MySpace was huge, Friendster started the social network phenomenon, but did that keep them alive when a better mousetrap, i.e. Facebook, came along? Of course not. And Zuckerberg was smart enough to buy WhatsApp and Instagram to protect his mindshare, those in government woke up YEARS later! As for the public? It doesn’t care that Zuck owns and controls them all, it doesn’t even really care that’s it’s coughing up its privacy, the truth is the public hates to pay and that’s why Zuck proffers ads, and when Apple tries to hamper targeting, Zuck and the rest of the advertisers blow back and Apple postpones implementation. Do you know what I’m talking about? If not, maybe like AOC says you need to go online and follow the news, where it’s going. Yes, we’re never going back. As for Trump’s administration, there was almost no going back, even coal didn’t come back. DeVos emphasized private schools, the rich and powerful were taxed less and were unfettered and…

Do you know what I'm talking about? well not 100%, bob.

difficult listening hour, Sunday, 15 November 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link

Billy Corgan, asked ti cite his favourite bad review of the Smashing Pumpkins:

What I read a lot back in the day was criticism of our postmodernism, criticism of our restlessness, criticism of my voice, criticism of our desire to play rock, heavy rock — it’s just a lot of things that were attacking the immutable characteristics of the band. If a reviewer says in the first sentence, “I hate this guy’s voice,” where do you go from there? You’re going to hate everything. Even if it’s a well-executed song or it’s the best use of that voice in a particular way. That’s what I remember, just reading a lot of things that you would just sort of say, “Well, then why?” Why would this person even review the record? Why didn’t they give it to somebody who at least had an open mind or had never even heard the band or something?

You know what, here’s a good review. Here’s a good bad review. It’s not a record review — you know Bob Lefsetz? I did a thing a few years ago where Cheap Trick was playing Sgt. Pepper’s at the Hollywood Bowl. I was invited to be one of the guests. Onstage, I got to sing the John Lennon song “Julia,” about his mother, with Robin Zander, the lead singer of Cheap Trick. It was really beautiful. And Bob Lefsetz writes: “I normally hate Billy Corgan, but here I have to admit, he was good.” Stuff like that. He had to qualify by saying he normally hates me. He can’t just write, you know, “Billy Corgan, appearing here in not his normal vampire guise, did a nice rendition of ‘Julia’ with Robin Zander.” It was like: “Normally I hate this guy. But he did good here.”

huge rant (sic), Friday, 27 November 2020 22:17 (three years ago) link

lefsetz really doesn't like the idea of bob dylan selling his catalog, for whatever reason

la table sur la table (voodoo chili), Friday, 11 December 2020 00:25 (three years ago) link

wow that's one of the most reasonable billy corgan quotes i've ever read

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 11 December 2020 00:32 (three years ago) link

Billy can be legit funny (and “down-to-earth”) at times, which makes all his... other stuff all the more confounding.

good karma, my aesthetic (morrisp), Friday, 11 December 2020 00:46 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Yesterday I went for a Rituxan infusion. For my pemphigus foliaceus. I need two every six months, otherwise my skin starts becoming unglued, literally, and...

why tell us this? is this bob lefsetz or bob ducca?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHIegpSmIyw

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 6 January 2021 13:25 (three years ago) link

You don't see hip-hop fans out protesting.

(context: he means in general. he isn't talking about maga protests in washington.)

fact checking cuz, Sunday, 10 January 2021 02:25 (three years ago) link

was june so long ago?

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Sunday, 10 January 2021 02:45 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

lefsetz weighs in

When are we gonna let this guy out of the doghouse?

Let's get very specific here, and leave emotions aside. What Wallen said is vernacular that is used in the black community all the time, the N-word is a part of hip-hop culture and employed on recordings. That does not make Wallen's usage right, but it does speak to intention.

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:17 (three years ago) link

"guys it's been TWO WEEK" is certainly a take

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

What did Don Henley sing, that it was about forgiveness?

We need some of that here now.

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:21 (three years ago) link

It's been possibly years since I've read anything by that guy, but whoo-boy was that terrible. Not even the (bad) ideas, it's just so terribly written, like a grandparent's facebook screed on something they don't understand. "Don't get me wrong, I'm no fan of 'Batman Vs. Superman.' It's too busy and too glum, with erratic editing and a tone out of tune with its comic book origins. But Zach Snyder is the most gifted filmmaker we've had since Michael Bay and Brett Ratner, and if we don't give the guy another chance we'll be missing out on some of the best movies ever made. Plenty of people make bad movies, but do we cancel them? No. This cancel culture is out of control. If we cancelled people for being stupid and making stupid decisions and saying stupid things, then everyone would be cancelled, even me. And then who will write your newsletters?"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 23 February 2021 20:27 (three years ago) link

i'm sure lefsetz would be metoo'd by now if anyone gave enough of a shit about him

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:11 (three years ago) link

What did Don Henley sing, that it was about forgiveness?

I looked this up. Turns out that what he sang was

We got the bubble-headed bleached-blonde comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye

stilt in the wings (sic), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:16 (three years ago) link

i'm sure lefsetz would be metoo'd by now if anyone gave enough of a shit about him

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, February 23, 2021 4:11 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

lefsetz is a digusting dweeb, but what makes him even worse is the legion of music industry-adjacent boomers who nod along to his every word

little johnny juul (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:19 (three years ago) link

industry-adjacent boomers

just found my new band name, tyvm

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 23 February 2021 21:49 (three years ago) link

"Black Myself" doesn't qualify for hip-hop world, even though, as the title says, Amythyst Kiah is black herself.

fact checking cuz, Saturday, 27 February 2021 03:47 (three years ago) link

oh boy, i would really appreciate it if he wouldn't write about amythyst kiah

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 27 February 2021 04:04 (three years ago) link

Once again, once Amythyst starts to sing you're immediately woken up. And sure she's black, and gay, but that's got nothing to do with what you hear on the track, as a matter of fact as powerful as the lyrics are, they're secondary to the power of the track.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 27 February 2021 04:21 (three years ago) link

And sure she's black, and gay,

i'm reading this is that sarcastic "sure you are" eyerolling tone

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:39 (three years ago) link

oh boy, i would really appreciate it if he wouldn't write

Fixed it for you.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 27 February 2021 23:51 (three years ago) link

lol okay.
no, amythyst kiah is actually great and great live so i don't want him near her

That's not really my scene (I'm 41) (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 28 February 2021 03:36 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Reinventing The Oscars

1. Include TV

cool

caek or daeth (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 16 March 2021 13:24 (three years ago) link

How else can his old man shows like BOSCH and those Israeli dramas get the recognition they need?

beamish13, Tuesday, 16 March 2021 16:24 (three years ago) link

five months pass...

When I used to go to school, and I'm never going back, we never started before Labor Day. School in August? Unheard of. August was still SUMMER!

... (Eazy), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link

"And we LIKED IT!"
https://i.imgflip.com/1fpg3n.jpg?a452496

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 20:40 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

So I disconnected the Bridge attached directly to the ethernet cable twice, but that didn't work, but then I remembered there was a Bridge hidden on the stereo rack and I unplugged and replugged that and voila! I can hear music! But then the desktop app asks whether I want to update it and I'm worried it's going to install the new app which won't work with one of my old Bridges but I took the risk, and it all worked. I need everything to work. Of course I could have just used the iPhone app, which was up to date and worked fine, but I'm a stickler, I get satisfaction when everything works right, it makes me feel good, it's that extra one or two percent that gets you to the ultimate, which was what I was trying to achieve listening to this new MoFi Ultradisc vinyl Eagles album, but...

It sounded great, but it sounded slow.

Would like to hear Wallace Shawn read today’s letter.

... (Eazy), Sunday, 26 September 2021 05:22 (two years ago) link

four weeks pass...

And Kelefa Sanneh, the "New Yorker" writer, has a new book about major labels and "Seven Genres." Sanneh was born in 1976, if he wants to write about hip-hop, fine, but what does this guy know about the history of rock and roll, this is the guy who popularized the inane word "rockism." Huh?

We were addicted to the radio, to music in a way almost no one is today. And we didn't go to the show to shoot selfies, it wasn't about us, but them, the people on stage.

... (Eazy), Monday, 25 October 2021 02:47 (two years ago) link

christ what an asshole

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 25 October 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link

"if he wants to write about hip hop, fine" is pretty fucking odious

When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 25 October 2021 03:06 (two years ago) link

Wow fuck that

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 October 2021 03:07 (two years ago) link

WOW

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 25 October 2021 03:53 (two years ago) link

What does this guy know about the history of Rock'n'Roll, this guy who is <checks notes> 45 years old?

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 25 October 2021 04:45 (two years ago) link

really gross

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 25 October 2021 10:10 (two years ago) link

lefsetz says some silly inelegantly-expressed things but he doesn't strike me as a bad person. popism was a not so thinly-veiled attack on boomers so let's not head for our fainting couches when a boomer gets ticked off.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 25 October 2021 12:45 (two years ago) link

are you a boomer yourself

Murgatroid, Monday, 25 October 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link

And you were fans of certain acts and bought their new albums without hearing them first. But then you listened to FM radio to find out what else was great. That was the culture, you needed to know, the country ran on music, maybe the entire world. The musicians were testing limits, pushing the envelope, and then it all imploded. It was a golden era and you only know this if you lived through it and most people did not and get it all wrong.

This feels to me like someone who judges the current state of literature by what books are sold in his supermarket

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:11 (two years ago) link

Based on what I saw in said section yesterday in Walgreens, it's a lot of shirtless cowboys.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 25 October 2021 15:14 (two years ago) link

But I like Cormac McCarthy

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link

how does this guy make his money

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link

first they came for the boomers and i did nothing, for i was not a boomer

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link

how does this guy make his money

Doesn't he give expensive speeches to tech executives and corporate scumbags older than himself who want to feel clued-in?

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:25 (two years ago) link

I wonder if he gets a percentage of the streaming money for “Fuck Like A Beast”

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:28 (two years ago) link

Sanneh was born in 1976, if he wants to write about hip-hop, fine

sanneh's next article: why hiphop exposes all previous genres (and their fans) to be the assholes that they are.

things repeat forever and there never is a remedy (Austin), Monday, 25 October 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link

There’s “out of touch Boomer,” and then there’s “telling a Black music critic he should stick to hip hop.”

... (Eazy), Monday, 25 October 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

are you a boomer yourself

i guess? 63? old enough to think that deliberately misreading his (admittedly silly) comment on age as being about race is disingenuous.

Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 25 October 2021 18:29 (two years ago) link

ok boomer

licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 25 October 2021 19:06 (two years ago) link


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